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Music Mystery Of Da Vinci Code Chapel Cracked (Rosslyn)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-1-2007 | Richard Alleyne

Posted on 04/30/2007 6:43:09 PM PDT by blam

Music mystery of Da Vinci Code chapel cracked

By Richard Alleyne
Last Updated: 2:05am BST 01/05/2007

A Scottish church featured in The Da Vinci Code is embroiled in a fresh mystery of secret codes and heretical knowledge - but this one could be more than mere fiction.

An ex-RAF codebreaker and his composer son say they have deciphered a musical score hidden for nearly 600 years in the elaborate carvings on the walls of Rosslyn Chapel.

Rosslyn Chapel, theories connect it with the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and the head of Christ

The pair believe the tune was encrypted because knowledge of music could have been considered heretical.

Thomas Mitchell, 75, a music teacher, and his son Stuart, 41, a pianist and composer, say they became intrigued by the markings on the chapel's arches more than 20 years ago.

Thomas was particularly struck by the 213 carved cubes in the Lady Chapel.

"I was obsessed by these symbols. I was convinced they meant something." Using codebreaking skills learned during the Korean War and his knowledge of classical music, Thomas Mitchell finally realised that the cubes depicted patterns made by sound waves.

"After scratching our brains for years the whole thing just came together in a eureka moment. We believe this is the Holy Grail of music and, unlike The Da Vinci Code, it is absolutely factual." Mr Mitchell realised the patterns on the cubes seem to match a phenomenon called cymatics or Chladni patterns. These form when a note is used to vibrate a sheet of metal or glass covered in powder.

Different frequencies produce different patterns such as flowers, diamonds and hexagons - shapes all present on the cubes.

The two men have brought the music back to life using instruments from the Middle Ages, adding words from a contemporary hymn to finish the piece, called The Rosslyn Motet.

Among the theories about Rosslyn is that it is the secret resting place of the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and even the mummified head of Christ.


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1 posted on 04/30/2007 6:43:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
knowledge of music could have been considered heretical.

500 years ago? If I remember correctly, King Henry VIII was writing the song we call "Greensleeves" 500 years ago, and Martin Luther was writing "A Mighty Fortress is Our God". I am not aware of anyone thinking that music was "bad" at that time. Certainly not so "bad" that it had to be hidden in a code.

Color me skeptical.

2 posted on 04/30/2007 6:50:39 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: blam
Among the theories about Rosslyn is that it is the secret resting place of the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and even the mummified head of Christ.

Exactly why would a Christian Church imply this? Didn't Paul say if Christ didn't rise then we are all (Christians) most pitiable?

1 Corinthians

15:1Now I make known unto you brethren, the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye received, wherein also ye stand,

15:2by which also ye are saved, if ye hold fast the word which I preached unto you, except ye believed in vain.

15:3For I delivered unto you first of all that which also I received: that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

15:4and that he was buried; and that he hath been raised on the third day according to the scriptures;

15:5and that he appeared to Cephas; then to the twelve;

15:6then he appeared to above five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain until now, but some are fallen asleep;

15:7then he appeared to James; then to all the apostles;

15:8and last of all, as to the child untimely born, he appeared to me also.

15:9For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

15:10But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not found vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

15:11Whether then it be I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.

15:12Now if Christ is preached that he hath been raised from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

15:13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither hath Christ been raised:

15:14and if Christ hath not been raised, then is our preaching vain, your faith also is vain.

15:15Yea, we are found false witnesses of God; because we witnessed of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead are not raised.

15:16For if the dead are not raised, neither hath Christ been raised:

15:17and if Christ hath not been raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 15:18Then they also that are fallen asleep in Christ have perished.

15:19If we have only hoped in Christ in this life, we are of all men most pitiable.

3 posted on 04/30/2007 6:51:59 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I thought no one knew who wrote Greensleeves?


4 posted on 04/30/2007 6:52:40 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
It's speculation. My point was that I know 2 songs that are 500 years old, one is secular, one is spiritual. Seems like music was "accepted" back then.

But the notion that Henry wrote Greensleeves is fairly widespread. From wikipedia:

"Greensleeves" is a traditional English folk song and tune, basically a round of the form called a romanesca.

A widely-believed (but completely unproven) legend is that it was composed by King Henry VIII of England (1491-1547) for his lover and future queen consort Anne Boleyn.

5 posted on 04/30/2007 6:57:33 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: blam
"After scratching our brains for years the whole thing just came together in a eureka moment. We believe this is the Holy Grail of music and, unlike The Da Vinci Code, it is absolutely factual." Mr Mitchell realised the patterns on the cubes seem to match a phenomenon called cymatics or Chladni patterns. These form when a note is used to vibrate a sheet of metal or glass covered in powder. Different frequencies produce different patterns such as flowers, diamonds and hexagons - shapes all present on the cubes.

Wow, this is very cool! Just by itself, the discovery or cracking of the code, and then for those of us who play musical instruments, doubly so. And the best part? (Ok, not the best part...) It bears repeating:

unlike The Da Vinci Code, it is absolutely factual

;-)

6 posted on 04/30/2007 6:58:47 PM PDT by fortunecookie (My computer is back!)
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To: Lx
I thought no one knew who wrote Greensleeves?

There is debate but it's generally believed Henry VIII wrote it for Anne B.

As for this new Roslyn music, I wouldn't know. But I did enjoy listening to it.

7 posted on 04/30/2007 7:03:18 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ack, don’t ever quote Wikipedia. You know it’s not all factual.


8 posted on 04/30/2007 7:04:13 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: blam

“...unlike The Da Vinci Code, it is absolutely factual.”

As DVC is a novel, this should not be a revelation.


9 posted on 04/30/2007 7:04:25 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I do think it is cool they have uncovered how the vibration of musical tones create various shapes. Consider that people widely accepted that the earth was flat, 500 or so years ago, and viewed the idea of a round earth rotating around the sun as heretical, the idea of sound waves that could actually affect space that they traveled through and objects they encountered may also have been viewed with skepticism, at least at first or at that time. I’m skeptical about the idea of the Church housing the Holy Grail with the Ark of the Covenant, but the sound wave theory is intriguing.


10 posted on 04/30/2007 7:05:32 PM PDT by fortunecookie (My computer is back!)
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To: blam
This isnt new...you can hear music at Mozarts grave too.

It sounds almost like hes de-composing.

11 posted on 04/30/2007 7:08:06 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: blam; ClearCase_guy
...Mr Mitchell realised the patterns on the cubes seem to match a phenomenon called cymatics or Chladni patterns. These form when a note is used to vibrate a sheet of metal or glass covered in powder....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GBf8y0lY0

12 posted on 04/30/2007 7:11:36 PM PDT by FReepaholic (If Cho had a nuclear weapon instead of guns, would he have used it?)
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To: FReepaholic

Boy...get your ears ready, lol.


13 posted on 04/30/2007 7:20:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
We believe this is the Holy Grail of music

"We're Knights of the Round Table
We dance when e'er we're able
We do routines and chorus scenes
And footwork im-pec-cable
We dine well here in Camelot
We eat ham and jam and spam-a-lot..."

14 posted on 04/30/2007 7:25:35 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: blam
I call B.S.

Rosslyn Chapel was designed in 1446 by the hereditary Prince of Orkney. He apparently drafted the decorations himself, according to the chapel website, but the work was not completed and there is not clear indication that it was performed according to his plan.

Moreover, the chapel fell into disrepair and the "carvings in the Lady Chapel" were restored in 1861. We all know what Victorian "restoration" could be like . . .

There are a limited number of notes in a scale -- there are 8 whole notes in an octave, and lots of decorative patterns are based on fours and multiples of four -- it would be far too easy to find coincidences and patterns that you could translate into something like a tune, when you are LOOKING for one. And a codebreaker should know that you can't detect a code when you only have eight letters to work with . . .

Finally, I have a large thick book of early Scottish music, and it doesn't sound like this -- it sounds a lot better. Guillaume Dufay, the Burgundian master generally considered the greatest composer of the 15th century, was getting started with his multiple voice masses and antiphons around this time -- his music is gorgeous and nothing like this. While dressed up with decent performers on contemporary instruments and (sort of) competent vocalists singing words from somewhere else, this alleged tune is still lousy. It starts no place in particular, wanders around, and arrives nowhere.

Dufay, by the way, wrote a motet in which the proportions of the phrases exactly matched the proportions of Solomon's Temple.

One other point -- instrumental accompaniment that didn't simply track the voice parts was still a couple of hundred years away.

fwiw, I just got through with a course on the history of Western church music, and this piece just doesn't SOUND right.

15 posted on 04/30/2007 7:32:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: ClearCase_guy
knowledge of music could have been considered heretical.

People just make that kind of stuff up to bash religion.

16 posted on 04/30/2007 7:46:16 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well put.


17 posted on 04/30/2007 7:48:17 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: mtbopfuyn; Lx; ClearCase_guy
I thought no one knew who wrote Greensleeves?

There is debate but it's generally believed Henry VIII wrote it for Anne B.

I always thought Greensleeves was about Lady Mondegreen.

18 posted on 04/30/2007 7:55:12 PM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: blam

Just listened to it at the link..

I think they hid it ‘cause the song sucks.


19 posted on 04/30/2007 9:33:15 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: AnAmericanMother

Good post.

You’d also have a problem “decoding” with the time/meter, which no song is a song without.


20 posted on 04/30/2007 9:36:15 PM PDT by D-fendr
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