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Venezuela pulling out of IMF, World Bank
AP via Yahoo ^ | April 30, 2007 | Jorge Rueda

Posted on 04/30/2007 7:57:23 PM PDT by jdm

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To: Sleeping Beauty; o_zarkman44

You both see it and get it.

The Petro-Euros are no game.

Iran will do it, along with Venezuela, and probably the Sudan and Libya.


21 posted on 04/30/2007 9:42:36 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Vicomte13

The change is inevitable. Haters of the US understand that the only way to bring us down is to collapse our economy.
AlQueda tried with the WTC and 9-11.
Iran and Venezuela have been butt buddies lately.
China is bidding up the price of oil to help it’s own economy. They can produce more widgits to sell to the US and get more of our money to build submarines (another thread of the evening).
Bring down our economy and it reduces our ability to fight wars and defend ourselves. Oil is the key. We have to secure our own supply and do it very soon.


22 posted on 04/30/2007 9:51:57 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: o_zarkman44

zarkman, dahling!

I knew you would get it!


23 posted on 04/30/2007 10:10:34 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Vicomte13

Vicomte — Even Norway (an oil producer) has entered into the Bourse alliance.

It’s always interesting to watch the unfolding of events with someone who sees what is actually going on.


24 posted on 04/30/2007 10:15:00 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Of course we have a plan, to counteract this?


25 posted on 04/30/2007 10:34:18 PM PDT by claudiustg (I curse you, Rudy of the Giuliani!)
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To: claudiustg
There was only one way to stop this.

A preemptive strike on Iran (which I supported).

The problem is — we put two dogs in the field and neither of them hunt no more:

1. Iran had nukes (that dog went impotent after Iraq).
2. Iran is supplying weapons to the terrorists (that dog is running in circles).

I’m afraid we’re in for it.

(Oh, there was always the possibility that we could talk and collaborate with Iran, and make them an ally, but I’m afraid our foreign policy does not allow that.)

26 posted on 04/30/2007 10:41:11 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty
MUST use the engineering firms of the nation doing the lending

So is this like in this Analogy: The Bank gives me a Loan to buy a house, I own the land & house, but I can not afford the monthly payment, so the bank sends some people over to live in my house, with me. They give me a little rent, so I just can afford the mortgage payment. This would make me the 'super' in my own house.
That is actually not too bad, it could be called business encouragement. At least it gets me off my lazy butt. Better then homeless, in any case.

27 posted on 04/30/2007 11:00:08 PM PDT by wentali
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To: wentali
So is this like in this Analogy: The Bank gives me a Loan to buy a house, I own the land & house, but I can not afford the monthly payment, so the bank sends some people over to live in my house, with me. They give me a little rent, so I just can afford the mortgage payment. This would make me the 'super' in my own house.

That is actually not too bad, it could be called business encouragement. At least it gets me off my lazy butt. Better then homeless, in any case.

Yes. Yhat is one way of looking at it.

28 posted on 04/30/2007 11:03:28 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: nathanbedford

ping


29 posted on 04/30/2007 11:39:57 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: All

ON THE NET...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1810409/posts?page=1575#1575


30 posted on 05/01/2007 12:45:11 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: jdm

I wish it was the U.S. pulling out instead of Venezuela.


31 posted on 05/01/2007 1:33:08 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Howie66
Frankly, I think that WE need to withdraw from (1) the United Nations AND (2) the World Banque.

I understand the first, but why the second? I mean the World Bank lends money to poor countries and actually gets the money paid back - as this article points out. The US has effective control over the WB. Why pull out?

32 posted on 05/01/2007 1:49:02 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (I don't care what side of the debate you are on: Weather is not Climate)
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To: o_zarkman44

To move to the Euro as the basis for pricing oil is not to be an enemy of America, although it certainly does diminish US power in important ways. Europeans want to do it for their own self-interested reasons: it is economically better for THEM to be able to buy energy with their own currency, and not have to convert it to ours.

It is, of course, economically better for the oil producing states to be able to play one currency off the other. Iran and Venezuela are making the point of doing this to stick their finger in the eye of the US, but even if that were not the motivation, it makes good sense for all of THEM to do this.


33 posted on 05/01/2007 7:29:32 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

What I don’t understand is that lil ol me, with a year of college and nearly 52 years of Degrees in BS can get it. But our elected PoliSci Grads, with master Degrees in Law, seem to have no comprehension of real world economics and how it relates to security issues..

It appears to be you and I against the world here.
My bunker is your bunker :)


34 posted on 05/01/2007 7:59:17 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Vicomte13

Any foreign action that diminishes our power and affects our economic health is detrimental to America. Any nation that makes the oil currency change just to spite America is our enemy.
He who controls all the money, controls the world.
All money under the current economy is based upon the cost of energy. Without energy, no modern economy can exist. Control of energy is control of economics. Whoever owns the oil makes the biggest economic impact by moving to another currency.


35 posted on 05/01/2007 8:08:46 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Moonman62

A pox on both their houses.


36 posted on 05/01/2007 8:09:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: claudiustg
Rudy Giuliani assails Venezuela's Chavez
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, whose law firm represents an American subsidiary of a Hugo Chavez-controlled oil company, said Tuesday that the socialist Venezuelan president is dangerous to U.S. My interests......
...uups.Typing error
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Stay free. Don't always believe the one who claims to speak for your interests.
37 posted on 05/01/2007 9:35:56 PM PDT by wentali
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To: claudiustg
Rudy Giuliani assails Venezuela's Chavez
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, whose law firm represents an American subsidiary of a Hugo Chavez-controlled oil company, said Tuesday that the socialist Venezuelan president is dangerous to U.S. My interests......
...uups.Typing error
.
Stay free. Don't always believe the one who claims to speak for your interests.
38 posted on 05/01/2007 9:35:59 PM PDT by wentali
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