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GONZALES WANTS ARBITRARY POWER TO BLOCK GUN PURCHASES; SAF SAYS HE SHOULD RESIGN
Second Amendment Foundation (email alert) ^ | 5/1/07 | Alan Gottlieb

Posted on 05/01/2007 12:47:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

BELLEVUE, WA – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.

“This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list.

“The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process?

“We’re not surprised that General Gonzales has found an agreeable sponsor in Frank Lautenberg,” Gottlieb observed. “The senator from New Jersey has never seen a restrictive gun control scheme he did not immediately embrace, and S. 1237 is loaded with red flags. It would allow an appointed bureaucrat the authority to suspend or cancel someone’s Second Amendment right without even being charged with a crime.

“Attorney General Gonzales has no business asking for that kind of power over any tenet in the Bill of Rights,” Gottlieb said. “He took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not trample it. Perhaps it is time for him to go.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: albertogonzales; banglist; bootlick; cwii; doj; gonzales; gungrabber; lautenberg; libertysecurity; patriotact; phaedra; rkba; s1237; saf; secondamendment; wot
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To: Carry_Okie
S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)

First off, Freepers should putting oputting the blame where it belongs... with Sen Lautenburg and the D's...

Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,”

Secondly, if they have reason to believe someone is a terrorist, then they should be arresting, detaining, or deporting. In any case where authorities have stepped in, the privilige of purchasing guns or posessing guns is suspended until charges are cleared. That makes the need for this proposed law mute.

101 posted on 05/01/2007 1:55:45 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: AuntB

Thanks the text of the introduced bill is at the bottom of your link: http://lautenberg.senate.gov/assets/terrorgap/Lautenberg_Bill_4_26_07.pdf

It’s awful: “or appropriately suspected” boy, that’s a heck of a legal phrase.

Unless an indictment or some such real legal process is required the bill is unconstututional on it’s face.

Besides being stupid: it requires revealing that the person is under suspicion.


102 posted on 05/01/2007 1:57:15 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: stephenjohnbanker
POTUS oath of office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Yep....Methinks Bush has a few problems there.
103 posted on 05/01/2007 1:58:17 PM PDT by rottndog (Fred Thompson will mop the floor with all the other Republican nominees.)
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To: BearWash
Gonzales is just the latest of the exposed failures of Bush appointees. There was Sec of State Colin Powell, Sec of Transportation Mineta, Secy of Energy Abraham, Secy of Housing Martinez, Secy of Treas, John Snow and O’Neill, EPA Director Christine Whitman, Press Secretary Scott McClelland, Pres Advisor and Nominee for Supreme Court Harriet Miers, 911 Commission Chairman Thomas Kean, as well as numerous lower Fed court appointments.

Bush has been an unmitigated disaster for the conservative movement.

104 posted on 05/01/2007 1:59:20 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: Carry_Okie; BearWash
You know, must people think the screen name anonymity is some protection, but if you mount a concerted effort, you can often find the identity of a poster even if the forum administrator won't reveal it. Crossed that bridge when I joined the forum.

I get mail at my house addressed to kerryusama04.

105 posted on 05/01/2007 1:59:26 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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To: Carry_Okie

I am so sick of this crap.


107 posted on 05/01/2007 2:01:45 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: rottndog

“”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.””

Yeah, his problem is he has FAILED MISERABLY to defend our borders!!


108 posted on 05/01/2007 2:01:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Dead Corpse

You and me both, D C !!


109 posted on 05/01/2007 2:03:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Carry_Okie

I miss John Ashcroft.


110 posted on 05/01/2007 2:03:46 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Magnum44; All
First off, Freepers should putting oputting the blame where it belongs... with Sen Lautenburg and the D's...

See post 77: "in response to the Senator’s request, the DOJ created a department-wide working group that eventually produced a series of recommendations. That working group produced the legislative recommendations that Lautenberg introduced last night........DOJ recommended the introduction of the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007.”

111 posted on 05/01/2007 2:04:10 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Redcloak

“I miss John Ashcroft”

You prefer an honorable man to Mr. La Raza??


112 posted on 05/01/2007 2:05:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Article 4 Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

At the very least he is derelict in his duties as defined by the Constitution. Actually, he's not derelicting anything--he's deliberately not defending American Sovereignty.
113 posted on 05/01/2007 2:05:06 PM PDT by rottndog (Fred Thompson will mop the floor with all the other Republican nominees.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Gonzales had a reputation as a gun grabber before he came to office. I've been wondering how long it was take for him to start showing his colors.
114 posted on 05/01/2007 2:05:41 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Carry_Okie
"Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today."

That does it for me.

He should resign now. If not, I'm all for impeaching his ass.

115 posted on 05/01/2007 2:06:08 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Dead Corpse

I am so sick of this crap.


Ditto, DC. At this rate, it won't be long before that Constitutional reset button gets pushed.

116 posted on 05/01/2007 2:06:09 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF *GOA*SAS)
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To: Carry_Okie
I was on the side of Sect. Gonzales until this moment.

If they find a Terrorist Mohammedan they should just put a bullet in his brain, don't try to take his gun away from him. If he is a terrorist he will steal a gun to do people in, or look under the kitchen sink and make an explosive to do people in.

Pass the law now to fight terrorists and have it turned around against us by the next Democrap Administration to coddle and appease the Mohammedans.

The last thing we need is to give our Federal Gvt. the ability to arbitrarily take the last line of defense from Americans.

117 posted on 05/01/2007 2:06:31 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: rottndog

“At the very least he is derelict in his duties as defined by the Constitution. Actually, he’s not derelicting anything—he’s deliberately not defending American Sovereignty”

It’s the “deliberate” part that one cannot defend!


118 posted on 05/01/2007 2:07:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: kerryusama04
"Gonzales is not from Mexico. A huge section of this planet peaks Spanish and have names ending in es/ez."

Gonzales' parents were illegal aliens. They entered this country illegally. Gonzales is an anchor baby and was also a member of the racist hispanic organization called 'La Raza'.

119 posted on 05/01/2007 2:08:26 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: MozarkDawg
Even if this thing could get through the both the House and Senate and be signed into law, it canNOT pass Constitutional muster.

The same was said of campaign finance reform from McCain and Feingold. It was signed. I have not seen it swatted down as unconstitutional. It's better to prevent bad legislation from being passed or signed into law.

120 posted on 05/01/2007 2:09:11 PM PDT by Myrddin
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