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communist.

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Okay there’s four pecks in a bushel and two half-acres in an acre. But I don’t know what they’re talking about above.

uh, what?

I always wanted one of those DeCSS shirts.

Did you know that you could get into really big trouble if you post the code beginning with 09 F9 11 02 on your website ? It is very likely that a takedown notice will be send to the owner of the website as soon as the RIAA, the AACS or some of their lawyers find your website. You might be wondering why they are making such a big deal about this code that continues to be 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 which only some users might identify as the code to rule them all.. aka the processing key that unlocks the content of every HD-DVD available up to this point.

Did you know that this was the processing key that ends with 63 56 88 C0 ? I did not until I read an article where the AACS sent some takedown notices to websites owners who mentioned the key. So, what is actually happening now is that this key will be reproduced on thousands of websites who report about this takedown notices, it will be available in caches, in forum entries and in many other places including custom created T-Shirts, Mugs and Mousepads. It seems that the takedown notice somehow backfired on the AACS, don’t you think ?

You said — “uh, what?”

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They’re talking about “cracking” the new HD DVD, which is supposed to make it so that you cannot copy those DVDs. However, this “crack” makes it possible and they’re trying to “put the genie back into the bottle” — which will never happen...

While the Band is Wagoning

So I really know little to nothing about encryption policy and I have never even seen an HD-DVD to date but I feel that I might as well join the rest of the internet in posting this.

Apparently with this code 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3... (if you want the full code, it’s not hard to find) you can do something with the encryption on HD-DVDs. I want to be very clear in the fact that I have no idea what to do with this number and have no desire to learn.

The problem comes with the MPAA and other groups trying to stop the HEX code from getting out and distributed. Can they actually trademark/copyright/patent/whatever a hex number sequence?

Digg has been removing posts about this all day apparently and it seems to have boiled over and people are not happy. Just check out digg.com and you should easily find article postings about this topic and pretty much every comment section, no matter the article, now mentions the code.

Again, I have no information on how to use the code or even what the code means - I only know what it is and would have never given it a second thought had they never tried to protect the information so aggressively.

I’m just tired of businesses - for profit businesses (RIAA, MPAA, etc) acting like they are law enforcement agencies. They are not and they should follow the proper legal channels just like anyone else. Got a copyright infringement complaint against someone? Present the proof in court and see what happens - don’t send fake “comply or die” messages.

http://www.quarkstar.com/

09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0

All your encryption are belong to us!

You mean 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ?

:-)

Just doing an experiment....

[for the rest of y’all, looking at that series of numbers above, you wouldn’t think something like that is as serious as Osama bin Ladin, would you???]

Too bad it wasn’t Blue-Ray that got cracked..they
are much more insidious and anti fair-use than
HD-DVD.

Didn’t take long, did it?

The New HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Hack: What It Might Mean For Us

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

That's the so-called "Processing Key" that unlocks the heart of every HD-DVD disk to date. Happy Valentine's day, AACS.

AACS, a DRM scheme used to encrypt data on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray disks, would appear to be cracked wide open by that short string of hexadecimal codes, as previously, only disk-specific Volume Keys were compromised. The new hack is the work of Arnezami, a hacker posting at the doom9 forums, fast becoming the front line in the war on DRM.

"The AACS is investigating the claims right regarding of the hack," said AACS spokesporson Jacqueline Price. "It is going to take a appropriate action if it can be verified."

Price said she could not disclose what their investigation might entail, or what "appropriate action" might be.

“We’ve just learned of this claim today and are checking into it,” said Andy Parsons, chair of the Blu-ray Disc Association and senior V.P. of product development at Pioneer Electronics, in an email.

The new crack follows that from earlier this year, when a hacker by the name of muslix64 broke the AACS system as it applied to each movie. While the earlier hack led to 100 HD-DVD titles and a small number of Blu-Ray movies being decrypted one-by-one, the so-called "processing keys" covers everything so far made.:

"Most of the time I spend studying the AACS papers," Arnezami said in his forum post revealing the successful assault on the next-gen DRM system. "... what I wanted to do is "record" all changes in this part of memory during startup of the movie. Hopefully I would catch something insteresting. ... I now had the feeling I had something. And I did. ... Nothing was hacked, cracked or even reverse engineered btw: I only had to watch the "show" in my own memory. No debugger was used, no binaries changed."

It's not yet clear what it means for the consumer's ability to copy movies, or, for that matter, that of mass-market piracy operations. The short form is that the user still needs a disk's volume ID to deploy the processing key and break the AACS encryption — but getting the ID is surprisingly easy.

Arnezami found that they are not even random, but often obvious to the point of foolishness: one movie's Volume ID turns out to be it's own name and the date it was released. There isn't yet an automatic system, however, that will copy any disk, in the manner of DeCSS-based DVD copying systems.

Even so, the new method completely compromises HD-DVD in principle, as it relies on AACS alone to encrypt data, even if there are other parts of the puzzle that are yet to fit together. Blu-Ray has two more levels of protection: ROM-MARK (a per factory watermark, which might revoke mass production rights from a factory but not, it seems individuals) and BD+, another encyption system, which hasn't actually been used yet on sold disks (but which soon will be), meaning that its own status seems less obviously compromised.

How might the companies respond? The processing key can now be changed for future disks. However, the flaws inherent in the system make it appear easy to discover the replacement: the method of attack itself will be hard to offset without causing knock-on effects. For example, revoking player keys (in advance of obfuscating the keys in memory in future revisions of the system) would render current players unable to view future movies. Revoking the volume and processing keys that have been hacked would mean that all movies to date would not run on new players.

Publishers could randomly generate Volume IDs in future releases (as they are still needed for the current hack to work), which would make them harder to brute-force. That said, it's claimed that the "specific structure" of the Volume ID in memory makes it feasible to brute-force randomized ones anyway.

Following are links to the current discussion at the doom9 forums, in which Arnezami and other provide regular updates on their progress. We don't offer any warantee that the software implementations so far produced won't blow up your computer or get you thrown in jail and whipped with wet towels by MPAA lawyers:

Proof of concept code for the process key hack is here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=953484#post953484

Implementation for Windows: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=953496#post953496

Implementation for OSX: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=953516#post953516

You said — “Digg has been removing posts about this all day apparently and it seems to have boiled over and people are not happy. Just check out digg.com and you should easily find article postings about this topic and pretty much every comment section, no matter the article, now mentions the code.”

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Yep, I would make it so that *everyone* makes it a signature line on every communication that they do, e-mail, postings, boards, whatever....

Digg? Oh - you mean the site for snarky young communists in training. The commentary section is rich - a bunch of pedantic teenagers slagging each other off.

I suppose this means that it's good that I haven't blown money on a BluRay or HD-DVD player. Cracking the encryption system means the manufacturers will have to find a new approach. The existing players won't be able to play the disks created with a different encryption technique...at least not with the original firmware installed. It might be possible for a firmware upgrade to rescue some players...if that capability is provided. A $1,000 paper weight is no laughing matter.

Did someone say something about secret numbers?

Too bad it wasn’t Blue-Ray

Give it time.

Someone, somewhere, is diligently seeking an answer to that riddle as we speak.

NickatNite2003 said — “Too bad it wasn’t Blue-Ray”

And Dr.Zoidberg answered — “Give it time.”

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The following article says that both were cracked...

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/13/hackers-discover-hd-dvd-and-blu-ray-processing-key-all-hd-t/

ROFL!

Don’t hate. Appreciate.

Too bad it wasn’t Blue-Ray that got cracked.

Soon.....

blog.digg.com -

What’s Happening with HD-DVD Stories?

by Jay Adelson at 1pm, May 1st, 2007 in Digg Website
Hey all,
I just wanted to explain what some of you have been noticing around some stories that have been submitted to Digg on the HD DVD encryption key being cracked.
This has all come up in the past 24 hours, mostly connected to the HD-DVD hack that has been circulating online, having been posted to Digg as well as numerous other popular news and information websites. We’ve been notified by the owners of this intellectual property that they believe the posting of the encryption key infringes their intellectual property rights. In order to respect these rights and to comply with the law, we have removed postings of the key that have been brought to our attention.
Whether you agree or disagree with the policies of the intellectual property holders and consortiums, in order for Digg to survive, it must abide by the law. Digg’s Terms of Use, and the terms of use of most popular sites, are required by law to include policies against the infringement of intellectual property. This helps protect Digg from claims of infringement and being shut down due to the posting of infringing material by others.
Our goal is always to maintain a purely democratic system for the submission and sharing of information - and we want Digg to continue to be a great resource for finding the best content. However, in order for that to happen, we all need to work together to protect Digg from exposure to lawsuits that could very quickly shut us down.
Thanks for your understanding,
Jay

Up three slots there Jeff.

It’s done done.

YouTube, song of the week:

"Oh Nine, eff Nine".

It's a guy singing the key. He wrote his own music.

Oh Nine, Eff Nine

Heh.

Digg users rebel against account cancellations

Internet, posted: 2-MAY-2007 16:15

Matt at Idealog told me to look at Digg's front page, so I did:

(Click on picture for larger version)

That's the Diggers rebelling against account cancellations brought on by people posting the HD-DVD decryption key (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0) that lets you play most such movies in Linux.

It seems Digg folded under studio pressure and not only deleted the stories posted, but also cancelled people's accounts.

Needless to say, the Diggers didn't take kindly to such a thing. Guess that crowd thing cuts both ways huh?

By Juha Saarinen

Does this mean that Blu-Ray will win the format war? What will happen to HD-DVD?

Dang kid!

You put that processing key back and get off that computer and go to bed.

You’re grounded until you’re 13!

That genie is out of the bottle:

Google Search Results: 1,850,000 for 09 F9.

Jesus says...

Seems like it shouldn’t be too hard for them to write a script replacing that sequence (or pieces of it) with asterisks.

>I always wanted one of those DeCSS shirts.

Just like the t-shirts with a one line perl script used to generate encrypted messages.

The caption after the code was “don’t export this t-shirt” since it was stronger encrytion than US law allowed.

Digg is toast.

I don’t know why the MPAA tries this DRM crap. All they are doing is breeding generation after generation of super-hackers. No matter what kind of encryption code they implement, the media has to be decoded to be played... and if it can be decoded, it can be cracked.

New website —

http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0.net/

LOL

Well, Wikipedia locked out the infamous numbers, but they missed a spot...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Association_of_America#Controversies

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“Some of the MPAA’s actions have been controversial. One example is the film rating system. Many believe that the intent of the various ratings has been subverted. For example, there is widespread access to R-rated movies even for those under 17, while the NC-17 rating spells commercial death for a film, undermining its purpose. Film critic Roger Ebert has called for an entirely new system of ratings designed to address these issues. Some people criticize film-makers for editing their works to conform to the various ratings. For example, they might excise some extreme violence or sex to avoid an NC-17, or even “spice up” a children’s movie so as to move from G to PG and appeal to older children. The ratings system itself is attacked as de facto censorship by free-speech activists, and conversely as too lenient in its content standards by some conservative critics, priest, lawyers, and parental review sites. A criticism that has come from both sides is that the MPAA tends to be considered more complacent with violent content than sexual one. Other criticisms have included that there is more bias against homosexual sexual content than heterosexual. Also, movies with male genitalia tend to get a “harsher” rating than those with female genitalia. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1”

LOL....

that really ain’t eleven in there, it’s seventeen, but some artistic license is allowed

I see why Wikipedia missed it, wrong last number... LOL

His favorite number...

LOL...

Too obscure?

digg.com is in complete meltdown. It’s sad and yet oddly entertaining.

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