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Giuliani Does Have A Prayer In The South
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 5/2/07 | Marsha Mercer

Posted on 05/02/2007 6:04:11 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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1 posted on 05/02/2007 6:04:13 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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He has no chance in the South.


2 posted on 05/02/2007 6:08:33 AM PDT by Howdy there
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To: areafiftyone
being tough on terrorism

He really needs to get that message dropped. Going on TV after a terrorist attack is not being tough on terrorism.
3 posted on 05/02/2007 6:08:48 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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We will see. From the look of things it looks like Edwards will sweep the south not a Republican.


4 posted on 05/02/2007 6:10:21 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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From the look of things it looks like Edwards will sweep the south not a Republican.

Unless Fred enters.

5 posted on 05/02/2007 6:13:16 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Howdy there
He has no chance in the South.

So wrong it silly.

Consider this. Nationally the democrats lead the GOP by 12 points - as a party.

Rudy leads the democrats by 4 points in all national polls.

That's a 16 point spread.

That is a number none of us can deny or avoid.

Rudy beats the democrats in Ohio, New Jersey, Florida, and California.

The wide audience that is the GOP needs to consider these facts and stop eating our own.

Push hard for your candidate of choice - but stop the personal attacks on the opposition.

I simply don't understand why this is so hard to appreciate.

Except for McCain - that man is freaking nuts. (yuk yuk)

6 posted on 05/02/2007 6:15:01 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: dirtboy

Did you see Fred last night of Hannity & Colmes (sp?)

Pretty damn impressive man.

I hope he gets in the battle damn soon - we need his presence.


7 posted on 05/02/2007 6:16:18 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

I didn’t see it. But I read the posts on the FR thread. That way, I don’t have to hear Sean or Alan.


8 posted on 05/02/2007 6:17:18 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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Well I can’t argue with you on that. Fred will give Edwards a run for his money.


9 posted on 05/02/2007 6:17:28 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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Check out the Foxnews website..

http://www.foxnews.com/

Upper right had corner - the video from the show.


10 posted on 05/02/2007 6:19:03 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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Sorry Jake I agree that Giuliani has no chance.

He is an arrogant cross-dressing Yankee who supports abortion and special rights for homosexuals.

He is not our guy plain and simple.

Fred Thompson on the other hand.

11 posted on 05/02/2007 6:19:35 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: areafiftyone

Funny...... Seattle news media piece reporting how an NY liberal will do in the South.


12 posted on 05/02/2007 6:19:38 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhymes, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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“....that he’ll appoint judges who are strict constitutionalists....”

sure, ruudeee

geez.....why would one suppose that someone who is NOT a strict constitutionalist pretend he would invoke a personal litmus test of strict constitutionalism upon appointees?

Oh, I forgot....it depends on who he is talking to at the time.....hilliary performs similarly when onstage, too.


13 posted on 05/02/2007 6:19:54 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: areafiftyone

Imagine this stage.

Fred - Rudy - Mitt - .... oh lord, and McCain

Consider the power of those 4 mens personalities in a debate.

The GOP is posting one hell of field.


14 posted on 05/02/2007 6:20:29 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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Why are you putting so much credence in poll numbers of dems and GOPers in spring 2007?

Because your best argument to get Rudy nominated is that those numbers mean something, when they mean less than nothing at this time.


15 posted on 05/02/2007 6:21:45 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Jake The Goose

LOL! What a combination.


16 posted on 05/02/2007 6:22:14 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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To: expatguy
Well - a LOT of people disagree with you - but I do respect your affection for Fred Thompson.

He's not a sure thing; he has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a cruise ship. His sundry personal-life issues bother social conservatives; the gun control stance dismays the Second Amendment wing of the party; the pro-choice opinions alarm the evangelicals. That leaves about 47 Republicans, right?

Right?

No. Voters are more flexible and forgiving than you might expect. And none of the objections obscure the central appeal of the Rudy candidacy: He'll nuke 'em if he has to. That won't be the central theme of his campaign, of course, but it's the unstated strength of his candidacy.

He's not a wuss.

17 posted on 05/02/2007 6:24:13 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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Thank you for parroting Dick Morris’ talking points, almost verbatim from Hannity last night. These poll numbers will be water in the desert in November 2008. Rudy will face a depressed Republican turnout and a strong third party conservative challenge that will bleed votes from him like a hemophiliac. Rudy will not be a lock to carry any state, because of the split his nomination will engender in the GOP. For these reasons, he is the one Republican Hillary is sure to defeat. The MSM wants to achieve this result. Why is this not self evident to you?

Dick Morris is a political chameleon, who got this start working for the Clinton’s. Yet people are all too willing to accept his now self professed hatred for Hillary. I think it is just as reasonable to assume that his promotion of Rudy is designed to set the Republicans up for a certain defeat and thus reinstall his old boss (Bill) in the White House.


18 posted on 05/02/2007 6:25:09 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Jake The Goose
Consider this. Nationally the democrats lead the GOP by 12 points - as a party. Rudy leads the democrats by 4 points in all national polls. That's a 16 point spread. That is a number none of us can deny or avoid.

First, I deny that such numbers mean anything a year and a half out from an election. Second, I would be just as unhappy with a Giuliani presidency as that of any credible Democrat, so if those are the only choices I'm saying 'goodbye.'

19 posted on 05/02/2007 6:27:31 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: pissant

Well - we have to gauge the nomination process somehow - so yes I use the polls numbers.

I never use a single poll - I use the combined weighted figures.

Surely you cannot deny that Rudy has a solid lead right now?

Can you?

They mean nothing? Oh come on now !!!!

I will agree if you say they can change tomorrow - I will go along with that.

But you will be the first to point to the polls if Rudy drops - won’t you?

Ok - that said - who’s your man right now?


20 posted on 05/02/2007 6:28:00 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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