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New toilet design to tackle bullying
This is Local London ^ | May 2, 2007 | Mark Chandler and Michael Reilly

Posted on 05/02/2007 6:11:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

UNISEX wash basin areas could be built in schools to help tackle bullying.

The move is part of recommendations covering schools in England being rebuilt or refurbished as part of the Government's £45bn Building Schools for the Future (BSF) scheme.

BSF aims to rebuild or renew every one of England's 3,500 state secondary schools during the 15-year lifetime of the initiative.

The new guidelines were issued by the Government agency responsible for delivering the programme, Partnerships for Schools.

Toilets in Schools was published earlier this month and details new toilet block designs to be incorporated into all BSF schools.

It is hoped the new designs will combat bullying in secondary schools and make toilets more attractive, cleaner and safer for pupils to use.

The agency recommends making hand-washing areas unisex and more visible and placing toilet blocks opposite classrooms and staff to improve the way they are supervised.

Gravesham Teachers' Association secretary Brian Chadwick said: "Any improvement which helps reduce bullying to a minimum is something we would support.

"But this would only be the tip of the iceberg and we would expect schools to have checks in place to deal with bullying anyway."

Councillor Michael Snelling, who represents Gravesham Rural at Kent County Council, said: "The real problem with toilets is they are enclosed spaces but I think this can be designed out when we're building schools for the future."

As well as overhauling the design of toilets, the BSF programme will address anti-social behaviour through further design features.

Dead-end corridors and dark corners will be avoided and the general visibility in all parts of schools will be increased.

Other recommendations include having blurred glass cubicles and not having urinals.

Partnerships for Schools chief executive Tim Byles said: "Toilets in BSF schools will no longer provide bullies with places which lend themselves all too readily to anti-social behaviour."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: allymcbeal; antisocialbehavior; bathrooms; bsf; bullies; bullying; england; eu; europe; euroweenies; genderneutral; greatbritain; hiddenagenda; homosexualagenda; islam; islamists; muslimagenda; muslims; pc; peesittingdown; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; rop; schools; secondaryschools; sexism; sitzpinklers; toilets; trop; uk; unisex; unitedkingdom; urinals; washbasins
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Unisex? Are we sure there's not another agenda at work here?
1 posted on 05/02/2007 6:11:02 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: MadIvan; Mrs Ivan

BTTT!


2 posted on 05/02/2007 6:11:42 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

From the headline I thoughtr they had developed an anti-swirly bowl.


3 posted on 05/02/2007 6:15:42 AM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"... not having urinals

there's the reason why. The euroweenies launched a campaign last year to eliminate the urinal because it is sexist - remember?

4 posted on 05/02/2007 6:15:50 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why not just outlaw bullying? Oh wait, fat nerds with glasses aren’t a politically viable special interest group. Not like homosexual muslims.

The location of assaults may change but this doesn’t get at the root cause.


5 posted on 05/02/2007 6:18:34 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: camle
Other recommendations include having blurred glass cubicles and not having urinals.

Maybe they'll outlaw toilet paper squares too and we can squat over holes in the ground and wipe with our hands like muslims. Islamic washing bowls are being placed in American airport bathrooms and on the campuses of American public universities. It isn't that impossible.

6 posted on 05/02/2007 6:21:35 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Are they going to install basin’s for muslims to wash their feet while they’re at it?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1827018/posts


7 posted on 05/02/2007 6:23:11 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am no fan of bullies, but are they really the most serious social problem we face?


8 posted on 05/02/2007 6:25:43 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No urinals? Why not? I know the feminists hate them, because it reminds them of what they don’t have, but wish they did. Other than that...?


9 posted on 05/02/2007 6:29:20 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“New Toilet designed to tackle bullying”?

When I read that all I could think of was a toilet that you couldn’t use to flush the class nerd’s head.

10 posted on 05/02/2007 6:30:26 AM PDT by afortiori
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To: weegee

Oh wait, fat nerds with glasses aren’t a politically viable special interest group. Not like homosexual muslims.
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You nailed it. Of course it is that way here in the USA too. Unless you either provide campaign contributions, campaign issues, or votes — you do not count in our society and YOU must obey the law. The others are exempt from laws, and get special treatment...


11 posted on 05/02/2007 6:32:05 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: weegee

there is no substitution for effective supervision - something teachers have historically been averse to. if teachers provided real supervision over students, then there would be little or no bullying.


12 posted on 05/02/2007 6:37:03 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: afortiori

Just like German toilets ;)


13 posted on 05/02/2007 6:40:29 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Would someone explain to me what a unisex wash basin area is or looks like.


14 posted on 05/02/2007 6:41:53 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; neodad
Actually there is another agenda.

These are part of the demands made by Muslims in England - There is a PDF file on the list of demands somewhere on the net - I've seen it - quite long and quite extensive - from what I have heard is that the British have agreed to all of the demands made on them.

One of the posts on my blog covers the UK situation although no link to the PDF

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

15 posted on 05/02/2007 6:46:37 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: neodad

That has already been done there.


16 posted on 05/02/2007 6:54:38 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Councillor Michael Snelling, who represents Gravesham Rural at Kent County Council, said: "The real problem with toilets is they are enclosed spaces but I think this can be designed out when we're building schools for the future."

What is this from the Onion? What kind of moron would say something like this?

17 posted on 05/02/2007 6:56:27 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: popdonnelly
I am no fan of bullies, but are they really the most serious social problem we face?

Probably not, however, I would guess that the consequences of bullying are worse today than they were when I was in HS 20 years ago. Back then we wanted to kill our tormentors, instead you just had to stand up to them. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but you at least got the satisfaction of standing up for yourself. Today, the most extreme cases result in in the shootings we see. Apparently standing up for yourself isn't enough for these nutcases.

18 posted on 05/02/2007 6:56:48 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: -YYZ-; camle; weegee; neodad; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The PDF file on the following page lists the demands made by Britain's Muslims.

The PDF file in the center of the page here is over 8MB

19 posted on 05/02/2007 6:57:44 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I remembered when I was in Jr. High (middle school) that the bathrooms were to be places to be avoided ! I was fortunate that I did not have to go #2 at school during my time there. H.S. was different. 99% of people had enough sense to leave you alone while you are taking care of business.

I would be in favor of implementing a design of fully enlosed stalls (no cracks, no openings). When someone needs to go #2, the design would ensure complete privacy and provide a means of being left alone.

At my son's school, the sinks are out in the hallway which is interesting.
20 posted on 05/02/2007 7:05:12 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: john
Swirly proof?

22 posted on 05/02/2007 7:10:01 AM PDT by beeber (stuned)
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To: weegee

I wonder when school authorities in the US and UK will get around to self-defense curricula and fighting lessons for victims of bullying? Oh, that’s right, they’re into pacifism now...


23 posted on 05/02/2007 7:10:02 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: expatguy

The muslims want us all to pee sitting down? And what of the unisex washbasins...wouldn’t they want the boys and girls separated?


24 posted on 05/02/2007 7:12:50 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Other recommendations include having blurred glass cubicles and not having urinals.

The Euro-feminists are really on a jihad against urinals, aren't they?

25 posted on 05/02/2007 7:14:34 AM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: expatguy

Ah...that makes sense. Feminists + Muslims = no urinals.


26 posted on 05/02/2007 7:15:42 AM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: camle
The euroweenies launched a campaign last year to eliminate the urinal because it is sexist - remember?

Møøselimb men are required to squat to pee...

27 posted on 05/02/2007 7:16:09 AM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: Piquaboy
Would someone explain to me what a unisex wash basin area is or looks like.

My hunch is that instead of separate wash basin areas in each restroom, there will be a single (probably larger) wash basin area at the restroom entrance. The toilet areas would still be segregated and would "share" the hand-washing room.

Some of the boys will probable like this setup - and most of the girls will probably hate it.

28 posted on 05/02/2007 7:17:24 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Whats this toilet fixation lately?

I could say something but people may think I am a “potty mouth”.


29 posted on 05/02/2007 7:20:05 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
From this ...

....to this...


30 posted on 05/02/2007 7:21:22 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: afortiori
It was probably a nerd that invented the bully resistant toilet.
31 posted on 05/02/2007 7:23:57 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I believe one of the oldest bars in the country, McSorley’s in NYC, when finally court-ordered to allow women into the bar (early 70’s IIRC), just kept the one bathroom.


32 posted on 05/02/2007 7:31:29 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: CORedneck
At my son's school, the sinks are out in the hallway which is interesting.

So then they can transfer their "dirty" hands to the door handles for all to enjoy and appreciate....where are the towels...in the cafeteria?Idiots!

33 posted on 05/02/2007 7:33:00 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: ThomasThomas
I think it was someone ... erm ... light in the loafers ...


34 posted on 05/02/2007 7:56:02 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Piquaboy
Would someone explain to me what a unisex wash basin area is or looks like.

A row of sink in the hall on the wall space between the doors to the two toilet areas. Some US schools have those.
35 posted on 05/02/2007 7:57:16 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: CORedneck
At my son's school, the sinks are out in the hallway which is interesting.

If that had been the case in Clinton's White House, the course of history might have been different (snicker).

36 posted on 05/02/2007 8:03:20 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: rainbow sprinkles

I like the pictures. Where are they at ? The pics of the ladies on the wall reminds me of the bathroom at the Sofitel Hotel in Queenstown, NZ.


37 posted on 05/02/2007 8:07:39 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: indylindy

Just thought it was something interesting to post...


38 posted on 05/02/2007 8:09:40 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I recently took a walk through my old high school in a fairly wealthy suburb, a town with the proverbial "great school system." There were no doors on any of the stalls, just as when I was in high school. I don't know if the kids tore them off or what, but there haven't been doors on the stalls for at least 25 years now.

They have added shiny chrome plates over the sinks to replace the glass ones that were constantly smashed.

Take a walk through your great school system sometime. You never know what you'll find.

Also, there was an earth flag hanging from the ceiling of the gym, and no American flag.

39 posted on 05/02/2007 8:20:25 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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This is an "Earth flag."

40 posted on 05/02/2007 8:27:15 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: EagleUSA
“fat nerds with glasses aren’t a politically viable special interest group”

Ya, but.....

Fat nerds with a shiv....now, that’s a force to be reckoned with!

41 posted on 05/02/2007 8:47:32 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: -YYZ-
"No urinals? Why not? I know the feminists hate them, because it reminds them of what they don’t have, but wish they did. Other than that...?"

Muslims don't use them. Muslim men squat to urinate, therefore they (the urinals) are dirty and offensive and must be removed.

42 posted on 05/02/2007 9:49:05 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (The only poll that matters is done in a voting booth.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“The real problem with toilets is they are enclosed spaces but I think this can be designed out when we’re building schools for the future.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Socialists are so funny!!!!!


43 posted on 05/02/2007 9:54:24 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Aquinasfan
"We are the worrrrrrld, we are the chiiilldrennnn..."
44 posted on 05/02/2007 10:00:08 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Semper Vigilantis

“Muslims don’t use them. Muslim men squat to urinate”

Seriously?


45 posted on 05/02/2007 10:01:34 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

Seriously. Apparently the prophet squatted, therefore all good muslims do.


46 posted on 05/02/2007 10:34:42 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (The only poll that matters is done in a voting booth.)
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To: Semper Vigilantis

Well, at least we can’t say they don’t know squat.

Their “prophet” must have been gay.


47 posted on 05/02/2007 10:36:47 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: CORedneck
Japan, maybe Taiwan ... can't recall where I found the pic. This is the Sofitel Queenstown Hotel loo that you correctly recalled ...


48 posted on 05/02/2007 6:26:45 PM PDT by Daffynition (Anything with tires and testicles will cause a woman trouble.)
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To: Aquinasfan
Also, there was an earth flag hanging from the ceiling of the gym, and no American flag.

That could be because the teachers were hurting their necks as they attempted to spit way up to the American flag, so the janitors just took it down.

49 posted on 05/02/2007 6:39:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: rainbow sprinkles

What I remembered of that bathroom, it was pretty nice. They had cool water faucets and sinks - contemporary design in addition to the urinals you see. Go into the next room, they have their sit down toilets, very nice with a full length door that closes into a door frame, no cracks where the occupant can be seen. Most public bathrooms in NZ were pretty nice and the people who design our public bathrooms here in the USA can learn from the Kiwi’s on this. When I came home from being in NZ for three weeks, I went to use the bathroom at LAX airport, already known for being a dump, it was very depressing to come back.


50 posted on 05/02/2007 8:53:07 PM PDT by CORedneck
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