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CNN'S DOBBS ON '60 MINUTES': U.S. COULD DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS
Drudge Report ^ | May 3, 2007 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 05/03/2007 11:39:32 AM PDT by Reagan Man

He has never called for the deportation of all illegal immigrants, but Lou Dobbs believes the U.S. could pull off such a feat if it really wanted to. The CNN anchor, whose stance against illegal immigration has helped raise his ratings but also fueled criticism, speaks to Lesley Stahl for a profile to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, May 6 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Dobbs is against amnesty programs for illegal immigrants and the president's guest worker proposal, so Stahl wonders whether Dobbs thinks the government could deport all illegal immigrants. "I've never called for their deportation,"says Dobbs. "But at the same time, when this president and open-borders, illegal-alien-amnesty advocates say, 'You can't deport them,' my answer is, 'You want to bet?' because this is the United States. I think this country can do anything it sets its mind to," he tells Stahl.

The former host of "Moneyline" for over 20 years, a business program on CNN, Dobbs has transformed himself into a purveyor of "News, debate and opinion" in the words used to introduce his current CNN program, "Lou Dobbs Tonight." The debate is often about illegal immigration. He is a believer in curtailing illegal immigrants' access to some social services. "I happen to think that it is necessary, given the fact that the federal government won't control immigration and won't control our borders," Dobbs tells Stahl. Dobbs says he's not for shutting off medical services, but illegal immigrants' use of other entitlements and the public schools is problematic. "Going to food stamps Ð should taxpayers be paying for food stamps? Should taxpayers be burdened with schools that are overcrowded?" Dobbs asks. "[Taxpayers'] children, therefore, are being denied education. Those are very serious issues," he says.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus accused Dobbs of being anti-Hispanic for these types of views. "I was asked if I'd ever eaten a taco before, for God's sake," says Dobbs, who has been married to a Mexican-American for 25 years. Hispanics have called for his job and Dobbs finds such criticism ironic because he grew up on a small farm and picked crops alongside migrants. "I am probably one of the few people in the debate who actually has [worked with migrants]. I've got the greatest respect for those folks," he tells Stahl.

Dobbs' opinions are a main feature of his nightly program, behavior that would exclude him from the classic definition of journalist as an objective reporter. Nevertheless, he still considers himself a journalist. Here's his opinion on that: "The idea that a reporter should be disqualified because he or she actually cares, actually isn't neutral about the well-being of the country and its people, that's absurd," he tells Stahl.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; aliens; deport; fence; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; loudobbs; mexico; wall
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To: kellynla
Ike did it...so can Bush!

Dream on Bush has the opposite intention, he wants the borders erased period.

41 posted on 05/03/2007 12:28:30 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: EdArt
Legislation of the type contained in House bill HR4437, an enforcement first policy on immigration reform, that includes a strict border security, tough employer sanctions and a halt to welfare for most illegals, IS NOT liberal social engineering.

If you break any existing or future immigration laws of America you should face prosecution. Illegal aliens who break US immigration laws are engaging in and promoting anarchy and chaos. They should be punished. The US is a nation of laws.

Btw, zing me, ping me. Thanks

42 posted on 05/03/2007 12:28:50 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

On the issue of opposing amnesty, opposing open borders and opposing liberal immigration policy, Lou Dobbs is right.

43 posted on 05/03/2007 12:31:09 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Yo-Yo
>>>>Are you willing to accept a National ID Card?

We've already have a national ID card of sorts. Its called a Social Security card.

44 posted on 05/03/2007 12:33:11 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: mimaw
If you don't like Dobbs, you're an Illegal or a total Bushbot...

sw

45 posted on 05/03/2007 12:33:36 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

I bet your part of the former Buchanan Brigades.


46 posted on 05/03/2007 12:37:56 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: mimaw
LOL..

I'll bet you back Rudy?

sw

47 posted on 05/03/2007 12:39:39 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Reagan Man

The social welfare programs are a major incentive for Hispanics. Stop that and you reduce the reasons for staying. Although there are thousands of Asians and others who have over stayed their visas that do not use the welfare system. They work for cash at low rates.

I live in Los Angeles. One block away from where I live was the final staging area for the big illegal rally(300,000 people) demanding their rights. Unless you could have seen this in person you have no idea how this was about political power.

When a government creates harsh laws that are not commensurate to the crimes it breeds contempt. That is why a just law builds support. Some of the ideas I have seen presented here are beyond the pale.


48 posted on 05/03/2007 12:40:02 PM PDT by EdArt (Benedict Arnold Patriot Brigade)
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To: itsamelman; DumpsterDiver

Bush claims they have deported SIX MILLION illegals

Do you have a source for this? Not a challenge, just a question....

“Bush on Monday said that during his administration, increased border patrol and security efforts have led to more than 6 million illegal immigrants being deported”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189160,00.html

You guys just think I make this stuff up as I go. LOL


49 posted on 05/03/2007 12:42:03 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: spectre
I will back whoever can keep a dem out of the White House.
50 posted on 05/03/2007 12:45:22 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: mimaw
WRONG ANSWER!

You're busted..:)

sw

51 posted on 05/03/2007 12:47:54 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: 3AngelaD

Here Here !!! End the free schooling and free health care, stop all the talk about amnesty and allowing some type of legal status for those who have broken the law to come here;
have a few employers do the “perp walk” .. stop allowing people to rent housing to those without legal status documentation...(ala Richardson, Texas) and they will deport themselves. Oh, yea, and stop paying Social security to people who worked here illegally.
And while we are at it — have a different tax rate for non-citizens working here....of course I’d prefer abolishing the tax code altogether and establishing a national sales/use tax but that is another issue...but one that would ensure that the illegals and those in the underground economy pay taxes like law abiding folks.
All a pipe dream as there is no political will in Washington for any of this!


52 posted on 05/03/2007 12:48:06 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Yo-Yo

I don’t believe that a nat’l ID would be required, any way what do you think your SS# is, that alone would be enough info to deter the hiring or conducting bussines with illegals
The system wouldn’t have to be so perfect that it would catch every single illegal. just catch enough employers and punish them and the rest will stop and there wont be any incentive for them to be here. unless their goal is to become an American citizen


53 posted on 05/03/2007 12:49:44 PM PDT by Texas Patriot (Remember.... The Alamo, never forget HOORAHH!!!!!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Sounds good, but my only question to you is: In order to make all of that work, it would take a National ID Card, and that means that YOU would have to show it for all of those transactions, too.

You already have to show a state government issued ID and provide a Social Security Number when you're hired for a job.

What you need are more reliable state IDs (Which REAL ID should provide eventually), and for the Social Security Administration to report when SSN is sent in that is a duplicate or belongs to someone with a different name.

That doesn't place any additional burdens on citizens as far as employment goes than they face right now.

It can be avoided to some extent by them working as independent contractors rather than employees, but if if the majority, that are actual employees are dealt with, the remaining ones that claim self employment will be easier to find and deport. You could also require any reasonably large company check the taxpayer Id of those independent contractors as well.

I don't think landlords have any requirements to run background checks or verify identities or legal status. It's been a long time since I rented from someone and I've never rented to someone.

It wouldn't be difficult to require a landlord to check an Id, and if the Ids are reliable and legal status is required to get one, merely checking an Id will those who's legal status didn't change before the Id expired. Setting up a toll free number to verify that the Id is still valid could also be done, but since they are State Ids, the landlord should have to call the state government, but immigration is a federal issue, so that might make legislating it difficult.

54 posted on 05/03/2007 12:52:30 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Reagan Man

Simple. Change the constitution so that if you are born here you are a citizen ONLY if your parents are here legally. No anchor baby, no anchor parents.


55 posted on 05/03/2007 12:54:34 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: NC28203; All
Free trade and open borders appear to be good for corporate America.

There ya go! Darn right it's been good for a few while the middle class and the poor AMERICAN CITIZENS have to compete with slave wages/illegal entry employees/illegal labor.

Just like any elitist says, " I hate the poor!"

Real wages for those on the bottom scale of society (everyone can't be an investor!)has steadily fallen for the last 5 years.

Pretty sad actually, that your 'great' economy can only survive on illegality!

You should have watched the Lou Dobbs special last night. You could learn a thing or two.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/02/ldt.02.html

And the fact that economics indicate that we have a surplus of labor, rather than a deficit, is something we have to pay attention to. Is it determinate on the issue? No. But it's part of the facts that we all have to come together on and deal with honestly.

The four industries in which illegal aliens constitute the predominant employment are leisure and hospitality, restaurants and hotels, landscaping, and construction. And, in those four industries, wages have declined for the past four years.

GRAYSON: They got 400 applications, and they hired 200 Americans, most of whom were African-Americans. They were quite willing to take the job, provided that there was safety in the workplace and there were decent wages and there was job protection.

DOBBS: These darn American citizens. They want things like worker safety. They want absolute rules in the workplace, and they want to be paid a living wage.

56 posted on 05/03/2007 12:54:49 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: EdArt
The immigration issue is a political issue and a law and order issue.

>>>>>When a government creates harsh laws that are not commensurate to the crimes it breeds contempt. That is why a just law builds support. Some of the ideas I have seen presented here are beyond the pale.

Again. Strict border security, tough employer sanctions and a halt to welfare handouts to illegals is not what I call provisions of a harsh law. The Dec2005 enforcement first bill passed in the House, HR4437, was a good bill. The Senate version S.2611, the liberal McCain-Kennedy, was a bad bill. It was an amnesty bill. We'd be better off implimenting mass deportation of illegals, then granting a blanket amnesty to illegals.

We have laws and we enforce those laws so we don't have anarchy and chaos in our American society.

57 posted on 05/03/2007 12:55:20 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: The Duke
No need to deport them. Make (and enforce) sufficiently onerous penalties against employers and landlords of illegals and they'll deport themselves virtually overnight.

Enforcement is impossible unless a real National ID system comes first. Tin Foil Americans won't allow that, but will still complain about the illegals.

58 posted on 05/03/2007 12:56:14 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Genius is the ability to make mistakes faster than the norms.)
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To: spectre

Busted for what? Not wanting to put the future of my country in the hands of democrats. People like you helped give us the crap we have in the majority now. I’ll be you sat 06 out or wasted a vote on some loser third party.


59 posted on 05/03/2007 12:58:34 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Reagan Man; All
We would all do well to remember the facts presented last night by Robert Rector of Heritage: 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country. What is the cost of amnesty? The fiscal cost of amnesty for illegal aliens in the country?

ROBERT RECTOR, HERITAGE FOUNDATION: Illegal aliens cost a lot at the present time, but if you give them amnesty, one effect is that they will all have access to Social Security, Medicare, this program called Supplemental Security Income, Medicaid when they retire, OK?

So the real impact of amnesty would be -- let's say you have 12 million people. You give them amnesty. The impact of that, the net requirement cost alone would be negative $2.5 to $3 trillion. Negative $2.5 to $3 trillion.

DOBBS: $2.5 to $3 million?

RECTOR: Yes. And that's with 12 million. You're taking 10 million people and putting them into Social Security. That is one of the biggest budget impacts -- that is the single budget -- biggest budget impact I've seen in a quarter of a century. It's fantastically expensive, and it is fantastically irresponsible for Congress to be contemplating that, and they don't have a clue in the world, they don't care what it will cost. RECTOR: You know what? If you look at low-skill immigrants, OK, which most illegals are, in fact, in every stage of their life cycle, they take more in benefits than they pay in, in taxes.

Each -- each low-skilled immigrant -- and illegals are predominantly low-skilled immigrants -- that comes across to the United States, if they bring a family with them, the net cost that they impose on the taxpayers, benefits received minus taxes, is over $1 million over their lifetimes. It's fantastically expensive.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/02/ldt.02.html

60 posted on 05/03/2007 1:02:40 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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