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Hating Whitey Worldwide
NY Sun ^ | May 3, 2007 | JOHN McWHORTER

Posted on 05/03/2007 2:41:18 PM PDT by neverdem

If the top Democratic hopefuls are under the impression that the way to stop Third Worlders from hating America is to build schools in their countries, they need to think again.

On Tuesday, Senator Clinton floated the idea that we should spend 10 billion dollars over a five year period on schools and teachers in poor nations. The justification for this being that such schools could give children an alternative to the anti-Americanism they are so often steeped in these days. Senators Obama and Edwards are of similar mind as well.

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It would seem that more promising strategies would be ones in which America helps...

How about — take a deep breath — eliminating the subsidies to American farmers that keep Third World farmers from being able to make a living selling their products? Or, how about admitting that Rachel Carson was wrong about DDT and restoring its use in African countries to help beat back the malaria epidemic? Then, a targeted effort to resolve the Darfur conflict would be crucial, especially given that, of late, there are small signs of hope there.

Anti-Americanism is not a product of ignorance. Convictions are not always based on the rational: Recently, I met two PhD candidates in linguistics who are avowed creationists. Anti-Americanism is parasitic on obsolete mental hardwiring, and only transformations in the whole of daily experience can reach it.

Gut-level, placard-waving contempt for America in poor countries will ebb only when a generation of people are raised who see America leading fundamental reforms concrete and relevant to the quality of life that human cognition will be unable to iron out the dissonance between the tribalist rhetoric and real life. Mere schoolroom teaching, on the other hand, will make not a dent in the Third World brand of Hating Whitey.

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KEYWORDS: defeatocrats; democrats; dhimmicrats; electionpresident; envy; hating; hatingwhitey; whitey
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Mr. McWhorter is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
1 posted on 05/03/2007 2:41:22 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"Senator Clinton floated the idea that we should spend 10 billion dollars over a five year period on schools and teachers in poor nations."

Senator Clinton should top off the tank in her broom and fly away.

2 posted on 05/03/2007 2:44:58 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: neverdem
Convictions are not always based on the rational: Recently, I met two PhD candidates in linguistics who are avowed creationists.

Excuse me?

3 posted on 05/03/2007 2:48:25 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: neverdem
"On Tuesday, Senator Clinton floated the idea that we should spend 10 billion dollars over a five year period on schools and teachers in poor nations. The justification for this being that such schools could give children an alternative to the anti-Americanism they are so often steeped in these days."

We are doing that in Afghanistan and Iraq right this moment but you won't fund it without loads of pork and politically driven agenda troop withdrawal time lines. And we first need to address the Anti-Americanism in our own liberal schools.

4 posted on 05/03/2007 2:48:38 PM PDT by avacado
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To: neverdem

People hate whoever they envy. They’ll hate white people forever.


5 posted on 05/03/2007 2:49:13 PM PDT by D.P.Roberts (Doing my part to build Uh-merica)
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To: neverdem
“that the way to stop Third Worlders from hating America is to build schools in their countries, they need to think again”

What happens if I like to be hated.

Seriously, the French hate me but I have relatives buried in French soil who died fighting wars for them.

The Chinese hate me because I am a “Hedgemon” but that’s all I did was oppose their expansionist policies.

The Mexicans hate me because I oppose their illegal entry into this country.

This could go on and on and on but you got the point — I hope.

6 posted on 05/03/2007 2:50:07 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: neverdem
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7 posted on 05/03/2007 2:51:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: neverdem
Stop The Hate!


8 posted on 05/03/2007 2:55:41 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: The Blitherer
"Convictions are not always based on the rational: Recently, I met two PhD candidates in linguistics who are avowed creationists."

Excuse me?

No surprise. The truth is foolishness (irrational) to those who are perishing.

9 posted on 05/03/2007 2:58:42 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: TexasCajun
Fighting Whites!

I am more refined that that.

I want to be known as a pugilistic Caucasian.

10 posted on 05/03/2007 3:01:29 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hitlery just hired the head of La Raza, the radical, racist “Chicano” group to head her get out the Latino vote campaign. She had better pledge $ for right here first.


11 posted on 05/03/2007 3:01:55 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus
“Hitlery just hired the head of La Raza, the radical, racist “Chicano” “

Well, I thought they were a Mexican group.

Then they were a Latino group.

At some point a Hispanic group.

Of course they were a minority group.

After the identity crisis they were a “disaffected group”.

And lastly a persecuted group.

12 posted on 05/03/2007 3:08:01 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: BeAllYouCanBe

Si. You got it all right. La Raza is bad business.


13 posted on 05/03/2007 3:12:15 PM PDT by unkus
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To: neverdem

Jeezo peezo. Doesn’t anyone remember the “Yanqui Go Home” demonstrations from the fifties and sixties? We have been hated for a long time. Doesn’t stop people from coming here...but that is mere detail.

The reason they hate us is that they want our stuff. All of it. They can’t figure out how we got it and have come to the eroneous conclusion that we robbed them of it. Look at the Arabs blaming our foreign policy for their troubles. What shoud we do? Stop buying their oil? I could get behind that but I doubt that the result would resemble a resurgence of Arab culture. More like an economic depression that would leave nothing but camel burgers on their table. Goat hash, if you will.


14 posted on 05/03/2007 3:21:14 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: unkus
Si, Senor.

La Raza in Anglo means The Race.

The Race = we are pure as in the Hitler “pure race”?

So tell me how are Mexicans — a mix of Spanish and Indians different from Texans a mix of European and Indian?

15 posted on 05/03/2007 3:22:01 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: neverdem

Our public schools teach our own kids to hate America. Why should the rest of the world be any different?


16 posted on 05/03/2007 3:23:04 PM PDT by Argus
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To: neverdem
She might be on to something, except we should start at home first.
17 posted on 05/03/2007 3:25:25 PM PDT by Rogle
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To: The Blitherer

Because studies show that creationists tend to be concentrated among those with low levels of education. I remember a study two years ago that said that the group with the highest level of belief in creationism/intelligent design were black women with a HS education or less.


18 posted on 05/03/2007 3:25:39 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Argus

“Our public schools teach our own kids to hate America.”

Hate is so much easier to teach than love.

So since we can’t love our country anymore get the job done and teach hate in less than 35 hours and still pay the NEA your dues.


19 posted on 05/03/2007 3:29:58 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: BeAllYouCanBe; neverdem; firebrand; rmlew; Cacique
One of my great joys is passing by the "Black Isreaelites" or the Nation of Islam and shouting back at them "Damn Straight! I am the white devil. FEAR ME!

Tends to unsettle them, to say nothing of the tourists who are suddenly more freaked out by me than by a bunch of closet cases selling bean pies in bow ties.

20 posted on 05/03/2007 3:32:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: neverdem

Hillary is making the same mistake most politicians, and especially Liberals, make. She thinks that we can ‘change the world’ and ‘make them love us’. She, and others, fail to recognize that most people in other countries cannot and will not be changed. They will instinctively resist change, growth, modernity and freedom. She wants to throw money at a problem that is rooted in culture, not lack of cash.

Take Darfur... Liberals have the Save Darfur campaign. This campaign fails to recognize that NOTHING the West ever does or can do will actually address and fix the root causes of that problem. NOTHING. Conflict, tribalism and warfare are part of their DNA. We in the West can’t fix that.

Likewise, we can’t make foreigners love us by throwing cash at them. They’ll take the cash, but culturally its compulsory to hate the USA. No amount of cash will ever change that.


21 posted on 05/03/2007 3:40:01 PM PDT by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: neverdem

Actually, she may have a good idea here, just not the way she would like to implement it.

That is, imagine if you will, a very large publishing company as a subsidiary to the Voice of America. Its purpose would be to publish durable elementary and secondary school textbooks for wide distribution in nations that are in our “interest” at the time.

That is, right now, if we had such a program, we would be giving huge numbers of these school textbooks to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Not only would it give these two countries a big jump in literacy and education, but the books could be filled with respectively democratic, patriotic, nationalistic messages. Along with their studies the books would teach their national history, and be very optimistic about the future course of their nations.

Nationalism is very important as part of education, as it gets the kids thinking of themselves as national citizens first, instead of their tribal, sectarian, and regional identities.

Right now, in Afghanistan and Iraq, there is a crying need for *any* school supplies, even pens and pencils. By being prepared to step in and provide such supplies, we seize the opportunity to educate an entire generation of that nation’s people.

This could save us enormous heartburn in the future. And maybe even help create a nation friendlier to us in the long run.


22 posted on 05/03/2007 3:44:55 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: neverdem

It isnt bad enough that liberal Demoncrats want to keep tossing Billion into our own toilet school system. NOW they want to dump Billions into foreign toilet school systems.


23 posted on 05/03/2007 3:47:07 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
pugilistic ?

New word of the day for me. ...it does sound refine.

24 posted on 05/03/2007 3:50:16 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Clemenza
McWhorter is an authentic intellectual. He goes below the surface to the anthropological and it is refreshing to see.

The part about anti-Americanism being a symptom of our universal tribal hard wiring was snipped out, but it is an important part of what he is saying.

Selfishness and tribalism have been survival mechanisms for a long time. When we shed them, we will finally be able to move forward.

25 posted on 05/03/2007 3:58:32 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: neverdem

Ping


26 posted on 05/03/2007 4:09:53 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: cripplecreek

God helps those who help themselves.


27 posted on 05/03/2007 4:12:19 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: neverdem
In my opinion, micro loans to entrepreneurs is the only thing that will lift up Africa out of it’s miserable condition. Anything else would have to go through corrupt governments and left-leaning Nongovernmental Organizations (NGOs).
28 posted on 05/03/2007 4:17:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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To: Clemenza
Because studies show that creationists tend to be concentrated among those with low levels of education. I remember a study two years ago that said that the group with the highest level of belief in creationism/intelligent design were black women with a HS education or less.

Please give a link to your so called studies. You sound like the DBM, with their "some say" and "some argue" statements when trying to prove a point. They also use the "studies show" and "polls show" type of journalism. If you are going to cite studies please give a link so we can have some confirmation. It is hard for me to believe that the majority of creationists are ignorant bottom dwellers.

29 posted on 05/03/2007 4:19:42 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
It is hard for me to believe that the majority of creationists are ignorant bottom dwellers.

That's not what he said. Not even close.

30 posted on 05/03/2007 4:23:11 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: calex59

About half of the U.S. population believes in creationism.


31 posted on 05/03/2007 4:25:50 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: cripplecreek
I remember that sign and that thread.

There are people in Africa who would LOVE for us to invade their country.

Zimbabwe, for example.

32 posted on 05/03/2007 4:30:51 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: neverdem
“How about — take a deep breath — eliminating the subsidies to American farmers that keep Third World farmers from being able to make a living selling their products?”

See? Even smart people say the dumbest things. While he may know a lot, farming isn’t one of those areas. Subsidies cripple farming because they support large corporate operations and processors. The family farmer is actually harmed by the subsidies and market restrictions.
Having said that, flooding the US market with third world food is probably the most stupid, shortsighted, HUA move we could make. There is nothing more strategic than a safe food supply. Didn’t the recent China pet food, poultry feed additive tell this guy anything? Didn’t the lack of inspections tell him anything? Didn’t the fact the Chinese company shipped their poison through a front company as non food products tell this guy anything?
When will he wake up?
Now, as for the money angle. What ivory tower idiot presumes these third world farmers will be playing on a level field with US ones? Pesticide restrictions? Fertilizer quality? Dumping food on the market to drive down costs before jacking them back up? Slave labor?
I assume the senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute eats only in restaurants and thinks food comes from the kitchen.

Oh, by the way Hillary’s idea sucks. Lets give 10 billion of OUR dollars away so they will like us. I don’t see her giving any of her money away. No vow of poverty for the elite.
Sorry for the rant. I hate it when our side is uninformed.

33 posted on 05/03/2007 4:31:45 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Clemenza

I met plenty of those black women”true believers”with less than high school educations when I lived in the South.
They are about as rigid a group of fundamentalists as you will find.No high falutin intellectualizations of great theological questions.
I must say,however,despite or maybe even BECAUSE of their dogmatism,they had to be some of the finest and kindest women I have ever met.


34 posted on 05/03/2007 4:38:48 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: newgeezer
It is hard for me to believe that the majority of creationists are ignorant bottom dwellers. That's not what he said. Not even close.

I disagree, he implied it heavily by saying the under educated blacks were the biggest believers in creationism. This implies that all believers in creationism are under educated people, it is also a slam towards black people.

I don't believe blacks are bottom dwellers but was pointing out that his words implied that they, and all creationists ,are bottom dwellers being ignorant and uneducated. Read his remarks again and if you still don't get it I will be glad to explain his meaning to you in words of one syllable or less.

BTW, I am NOT a creationist, I do not attend church and I am not a christian, but know many fine people who are, ALL of them hold college degrees at some level, several are black also, one having an IQ of about 150 and I deeply resent his patronizing remarks.

35 posted on 05/03/2007 4:40:27 PM PDT by calex59
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To: happygrl

Invade Zimbabwe?
Who needs THAT headache?


36 posted on 05/03/2007 4:41:15 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: calex59
This implies that all believers in creationism are under educated people

No, it does not. It merely said the highest concentration of believers are such-and-such. Whether it's true or not, any such statistic does not even begin to imply that "all" or "a majority of" believers are such-and-such. You're free to infer whatever you want. But, don't shift the blame for your inferences.

BTW, I am NOT a creationist, I do not attend church and I am not a christian

Well, I do believe the Biblical account of creation, I do attend church and I am a Christian, and I didn't see any such implication in his remark. "Words mean things."

37 posted on 05/03/2007 4:47:39 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: neverdem

They spend billions now and teach Anti Americanism here.


38 posted on 05/03/2007 4:54:22 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Clemenza

You can add me to your collection of advanced degree people who believe the world is created. There are a lot of us out here.


39 posted on 05/03/2007 4:58:33 PM PDT by Chickensoup (.The Muzzies are hanging us with the rope we paid out to the leftists.)
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To: Riverman94610; Chickensoup
I knew that comment would get me in trouble.

Believing in creationism DOES NOT make you a bad person. I would defend to the death the right to believe in such nons...er, beliefs. Nevertheless, McWorther and myself are right to find it odd that folks on the far right side of the bell curve believe in creationism/intelligent design. Then again, even more "brights" were seduced by the idiocy that is dialectic materialism, but I digress.

40 posted on 05/03/2007 5:19:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: neverdem
No matter how well it is disguised, this article is simply another installment in the fiction that it is America’s past policies that are fueling the hatred and if we could just get the policies right, the hatred would stop. (No! The problem is not about building class rooms, you idiot! It’s about cutting the subsidies to American farmers!)

Yes, if we could just get the policies right, then Mr. McWhorter could go back to being popular at drinks when he is in Europe.

(You realize, of course, that it is not too far between this thinking and Professor Ward Churchill’s sentiment that the WTC was full of “little Eichmanns” that deserved to die.)

41 posted on 05/03/2007 5:20:14 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: Clemenza

LOL!


42 posted on 05/03/2007 5:32:02 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Does any self respecting country want an education system that the liberal democrats created for this country? Lets dump more money into schooling of foreign countries so they will like us again, BRILLIANT! We have dumped huge amounts of money into an education system that is on its way down the toilet. Fix the problem you created first before you poison others! Dummie crats!


43 posted on 05/03/2007 5:36:23 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: Clemenza

I ain’t mad at you,Clemenza.
I’ve followed your posts for a long time.I know you are a truth teller and that offends some people-even ME once in a while!
I know what you meant by your comment.It was NOT a slap at uneducated black people.
Hey,I knew some blacks with a fifth grade education who knew more about the ways of the world and human nature than a thousand Harvard PHD’s.


44 posted on 05/03/2007 5:38:43 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610

My grandfather never made it past the tenth grade (the last straw was beating up his shop teacher), but was, in many ways, smarter than I am. Guy was a voracious reader, a decorated WWII vet, and, above all, a wonderful father and grandfather.


45 posted on 05/03/2007 5:42:30 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Clemenza

And character and integrity to me are much more accurate measures of a man than degrees and prestigious titles.
Your gramps sounded like he lived the life of an unsung hero.


46 posted on 05/03/2007 5:53:33 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: neverdem
“How about — take a deep breath — eliminating the subsidies to American farmers that keep Third World farmers from being able to make a living selling their products?”

Third-world farmers are mostly engaged in subsistance agriculture and do not produce an exportable surplus. We import a lot of agricultural products from the third world (coffee, bananas, sugar, mangos, etc,) which are largely the product of large plantations.
47 posted on 05/03/2007 6:09:30 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: neverdem

Whitey sukz n hiz evil logic make socialist look stupid.


48 posted on 05/03/2007 6:16:44 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: D.P.Roberts
People hate whoever they envy. They’ll hate white people forever.

Exactly. The price you pay for being number one.

49 posted on 05/03/2007 6:28:37 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Clemenza
Because studies show that creationists tend to be concentrated among those with low levels of education.

Right. Those who believe the truth must be less educated. Everybody knows that.

Here's a creationist who graduated first in his college class with a perfect 4.0 GPA.

50 posted on 05/03/2007 6:31:12 PM PDT by Jorge
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