Drudge GOP Debate Poll -- 50,000 votes; Clear Winners are Romney, Giuliani, and RON PAUL

Drudge Report ^ | May 4, 2007 | Orthodox Presbyterian

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

DRUDGE REPORT
The Reagan Derby

Well, with 47,617 individual Votes recorded as of 12:55AM EST on 5/4/07, The Drudge Report has provided perhaps the most sweeping and comprehensive initial survey of viewer reaction to the first GOP Primary Debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.

The Results thus far:

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE REAGAN DERBY?

• Mitt Romney -- 35%
• Rudy Giuliani -- 21%
• RON PAUL -- 16%
• Tommy Thompson -- 7%
• John McCain -- 6%
• Tom Tancredo -- 5%
• Mike Huckabee -- 4%
• Duncan Hunter -- 3%
• Sam Brownback -- 2%
• Jim Gilmore -- 2%

With an optimistic, confident demeaner and a polished presentation, Mitt Romney decidedly overshadowed the erstwhile Front-Runner, Rudy Giuliani. Rudy's primary strength thus far has been his vast name recognition and the sheer momentum of his supposed "inevitability" -- and yet, in terms of viewer reaction, for him to be trailing (by double digits) a former Governor not widely known outside of Massachusetts until this election season demonstrates clear vulnerability on Giuliani's part.

However, the greatest source of comfort to Constitutionalist Conservatives has to be the tremendous upswell of support being registered by the former Leader of Ronald Reagan's Electoral Delegation from Texas, United States Congressman Ron Paul -- and that DESPITE receiving comparatively little "face time" from the debate organizers. With viewer reaction to the first GOP Primary Debate already placing Congressman Ron Paul solidly in third place, nine points ahead of his nearest rival and within five points of Giuliani himself, a tremendous opportunity exists for Ron Paul to establish widespread national Name Recognition and garner increasing support for his broadly-appreciated message of Individual Liberty and strictly-limited Government Power.

With the second GOP Primary Debate rapidly approaching, Conservatives can take heart in knowing that the Message of Reagan Republicanism still resonates when presented confidently and forthrightly --and that there's at least one GOP Candidate on the stage who has stood solidly for Reagan Republicanism for thirty years: RON PAUL.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for Pro-Life social conservatives.

• Ron Paul introduced the Sanctity of Life Act of 2005, recognizing the Personhood of every unborn baby and removing Abortion from the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.
• Ron Paul is rated ZERO percent by the National Abortion Rights Action League.
• Ron Paul is an original co-sponsor of the Marriage Protection Act.
• Ron Paul voted to ban Homosexual adoption in Washington DC.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for Tax-Cutting fiscal conservatives.

• Ron Paul is ranked by Human Events as the biggest Tax Cutter in all of Congress. Paul Named #1 Tax Cutter in Congress: “(Paul) is a co-sponsor… of a constitutional amendment to repeal the 16th amendment and end income, gift, and estate taxes. Regularly pushes for tax cuts. Sponsor of bills to allow tax credits for private school tuition, to permit tax deduction of college tuition, and to stop all taxation of Social Security benefits. Opposes all unconstitutional spending programs.”
• Ron Paul has ranked in the 99th percentile of the National Taxpayer Union ratings every year he has been in Congress -- thus standing head and shoulders above his big government Republican rivals like gun-grabber John McCain, transvestite Rudy Giuliani, "Amnesty Sam" Brownback, Mike "Bill Clinton embodies the American Dream" Huckabee, and Pork-Barrel King Duncan Hunter.

RON PAUL is the ONLY 100% Anti-Terrorist candidate.

• The ruling government of Iraq is dominated by the psychopathic gang of murderers known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and the Islamic Al Dawa Party, who are the very same Islamic Terrorist Parties which bombed the US & French Embassies in Kuwait, and murdered 241 United States Marines in Beirut in 1983. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, of the Al Dawa Party, was the Bureau Chief of the Al Dawa Party's terrorist "Jihad Office" in Damascus in the 1980s and was thus heavily responsible for Al Dawa operations in Beirut, while parliament member Jamal Jafaar Mohammed of his ruling coalition is one of the "Kuwait 17", still under a Kuwaiti death sentence (in absentia) for his direct involvement in the vicious attack on the US Embassy in Kuwait! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate calling for an immediate END to all Military and Financial support for the criminal Islamic Terrorist thug-regime of Iraq.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for National Defense and Foreign Affairs.

• Ron Paul voted for the National Missile Defense Act. (source)
• Ron Paul is one of only two co-sponsors of H. Res. 123, for the establishment of a Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs to "conduct a full investigation of all unresolved matters relating to any United States personnel unaccounted for from the Vietnam era, the Korean conflict, World War II, Cold War Missions, or Gulf War, including MIA's and POW's." (POW-MIA InterNetwork)
• Ron Paul supports a strengthened Coast Guard and increased port security, and increased benefits for veterans.
• Ron Paul advocates United States withdrawal from the United Nations and withdrawal from the World Trade Organization. Says Ron Paul: "We don’t need CAFTA or any other international agreement to reap the economic benefits promised by CAFTA supporters, we only need to change our own harmful economic and tax policies. Let the rest of the world hurt their citizens with tariffs; if we simply reduce tariffs and taxes at home, we will attract capital and see our economy flourish." (source).
• "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." --U.S. President Ronald Reagan

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for the Bill of Rights.

• "Congress Unanimously Supports Paul Amendment to Protect Civil Liberties"
• Ron Paul is one of only five Congressmen to have an A+ Rating from the Gun Owners of America.
• Ron Paul Denounces National ID Card.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate on Illegal Immigration.

• Ron Paul voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006. “Amnesty for lawbreakers is not the answer, and it’s time to rethink birthright citizenship,” Paul added. ("Paul Votes for Stronger Border Security")
• Ron Paul is a co-sponsor of HR 487, which "expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a NAFTA superhighway or enter into any plans to create a North American Union between Canada, the U.S., and Mexico."
• "We need to allocate far more resources, both in terms of money and manpower, to securing our borders and coastlines here at home. This is the most critical task before us, both in terms of immigration problems and the threat of foreign terrorists. Unless and until we secure our borders, illegal immigration and the problems associated with it will only increase." – Ron Paul (source)

RON PAUL is the ONLY socially-conservative Candidate defending the independence of the Christian Church against Federal "Faith-Based Socialism".

• "Government funding of religious organizations will transform them into adjuncts of the federal welfare state, more concerned about obeying federal rules and regulations than fulfilling the obligations of their faith." – Ron Paul (source). Every other so-called "social conservative" candidate actually FAVORS this underhanded Orwellian Federal assault on the Freedom of the Christian Church.

"I got to know President Reagan in 1976 when, as a freshman congressman, I was one of only four members of that body to endorse then-Governor Reagan’s primary challenge to President Gerald Ford. I had the privilege of serving as the leader of President Reagan’s Texas delegation at the Republican convention of 1976, where Ronald Reagan almost defeated an incumbent president for his party’s nomination. I was one of the millions attracted to Ronald Reagan by his strong support for limited government and the free-market. I felt affinity for a politician who based his conservative philosophy on '...a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom.' I wish more of today’s conservative leaders based their philosophy on a desire for less government and more freedom." – Ron Paul, Remembering Ronald Reagan

In 2008, I'm voting for the REAGAN REPUBLICAN. I'm voting for former Vietnam Combat Flight Surgeon, and Leader of Ronald Reagan's Electoral Delegation from Texas: In 2008, I'm Voting for RON PAUL!

"The greatest champion of conservative principles we have seen in Congress in the past quarter century."
(David T. Pyne, Esq., Vice President of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies)

[pissant]

Lotsa antiwar dems voting, apparently.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Tremendously good news for Ron Paul in terms of Viewer Reaction to the first GOP Primary Debate.

Drudge has polled nearly 50,000 individual Votes, and we're solidly in Third Place (and have been moving up).

[B-Chan]

[stephenjohnbanker]

No j-off who votes with the liberals is acceptable.

Sorry.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

So... who’s your candidate?

[Enduring Freedom]

I’m Just Waitin’ On A Fred

Watching girly-men go passing by
It ain’t the latest thing
I’m just standing in a doorway
I’m just trying to make some sense
Out of these girly-men go passing by
The tales of sellout men
I’m not waiting on the Rinos
I’m just waiting on a Fred

His smile relieves a heart that grieves
Remember what I said
I’m not waiting on the Rinos
I’m just waiting on a Fred
I’m just waiting on a Fred

Don’t need a whore
I don’t need no boozer
Don’t need a Mormon priest
But I need someone I can cry to
I need someone to protect me
Making war and breaking heads
It is a game for few
But I’m not waiting on the Rinos
I’m just waiting on a Fred

[Jake The Goose]

Funny

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

No j-off who votes with the liberals is acceptable.

Really?

Then disqualify ALL the GOP candidates who hail from Congress -- since the Congress unanimously Voted for the Ron Paul Civil Liberties Amendment to the Patriot Act, I guess you could say that they ALL "voted with liberals" (Duncan Hunter included).

[The_Eaglet]

Welcome back, OP!

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Lotsa antiwar dems voting, apparently.

Nah, I'd say it's probably a lot of Conservatives who still care about the Constitution.

[Neu Pragmatist]

Mitt did well, just as I predicted he would. Romney’s numbers will only climb , as more people see him in the debates .

[The_Eaglet]

How about John McCain who voted for record-level liberal deficit spending budgets?

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Took a break. Recharged the batteries.

:-)

[B-Chan]

My candidate does not exist.

[pissant]

I care every bit as much about the constitution as Mr. Paul. Just not a pacifist. You get hit, you punch back hard.

[B-Chan]

Thanks.

[stephenjohnbanker]

I like Paul on most issues.......I would swap Bush for him right now........but Paul blew it on the war....and Bush wants to turn the US into Mexico. Nowhere to run, or hide.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“My candidate does not exist.”

Touche!

[The_Eaglet]

Nah, I'd say it's probably a lot of Conservatives who still care about the Constitution.

That's as good an analysis as any, and better than many. :)

[EternalVigilance]

Allow me to ask you a question I’ve asked several Romney supporters tonight, with no satisfactory response:

Shouldn’t a candidate’s current rhetoric bear at least a passing resemblence to their record?

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Mitt did well, just as I predicted he would. Romney’s numbers will only climb , as more people see him in the debates.

Mitt Romney does very well in any sort of public speaking environment.

I've already decided on my candidate -- Ron Paul; I just can't bring myself to be totally convinced of Romney's quite recent (and quite conveniently-timed) flip-flop over to the Pro-Life cause. I, personally, just don't completely buy it.

But he can keep knocking Giuliani silly, I'm all for it!! More power to him, in that.

[des]

Ron Paul defended his seat against the most highly “trial lawyer-funded” liberal campaign ever waged in this country.
John Edwards could only hope for the trial-lawyer support Ron Paul’s opposition got.

[B-Chan]

231 years of independence, and this bunch of bottom-scrapings is the best we can do. Sad, isn’t it?

[bnelson44]

RON PAUL — 16%

That is simply fantasy.

If he gets more than 1% in a real poll he is doing good.

[pissant]

Don’t get me wrong. I prefer Paul to any democrat I can think of. He and I are in agreement about many things. His lack of understanding regarding the need to crush islamo fascists where they live though makes him a non starter to me.

[Ronin]

Hmmm... I take it you like Ron Paul.

[ConservativeMind]

“...transvestite Rudy Giuliani...”

Gotta like that one!

[TAdams8591]

Right you are. This was an important win for him. Coupled with his appearance on Leno last night, we should see a significant improvement in the polls.

[stephenjohnbanker]

It goes way beyond sad, it is a travesty!

[SoCalPol]

The poll is an out come also of another site I saw telling them to go over to FR and vote for, name, and name.

[hsalaw]

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate calling for an immediate END to all Military and Financial support for the criminal Islamic Terrorist thug-regime of Iraq.

I don't understand this. Is he unwilling to give the Iraqis a chance to work these problems out, and siding with Reid and Murtha who want to run away? Doesn't he think anything can be salvaged? Granted, this is the first and the most I've heard about him, but I really don't get his position on this.

[Mr. Mojo]

Rudy Giuliani -- 21%

Wishful thinking on the part of these voters; Rudy got whooped tonight.

[pissant]

Figgers.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I like Paul on most issues.......I would swap Bush for him right now........but Paul blew it on the war....

With Federal Deficits in the half-Trillion dollar range, I would ask you one question:

Assume that money doesn't grow on trees. Assume that increased Deficits really do hurt the Economy, and vastly increased Federal Debts really do pass on the poverty of increased Taxes and Inflation to your children and grandchildren.

Now, given those assumptions, choose ONE of the following courses of action:

• Spend Hundreds of Billions of dollars trying to referee an Islamic Civil War 7,000 miles away, while leaving the Borders utterly undefended (George Bush Policy); OR...
• Spend a few Tens of Billions of dollars massively ramping up Border Security, Port and Airline Security, and US Coast Guard operations here in the USA (Ron Paul Policy).

  Assuming that you had to CHOOSE ONE, which course of action do YOU think is more likely to prevent a couple of jihadists with AK-47s from slipping into a US day-care center or shopping mall and indulging in their own little Virginia Tech redux?

  Which One?

Food for thought. Life is full of trade-offs.

[TAdams8591]

What is better, a less than perfect conservative Republican as president or a president running on a Liberal platform like, Guiliani, Hillary or Obama?

[SoCalPol]

You need to move on over to DU where you can enjoy your fellow anti war idiots.

[EternalVigilance]

None of the above. A liberal is a liberal.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

RON PAUL — 16% That is simply fantasy. If he gets more than 1% in a real poll he is doing good.

This is a poll of 50,000 viewer reactions to the GOP Debate.

Many of these people may have only seen Ron Paul for the first time tonight.

And they like what they see.

[Capitalism2003]

Ron is a huge breath of fresh air..

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

You need to move on over to DU where you can enjoy your fellow anti war idiots.

You need to move on over to DU where you can support interventionist Nation-Building (as all Clintonistas did when Bubba was doing his thang in Serbia, and Constitutionalist Conservatives roundly opposed Nation-Building).

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Spend Hundreds of Billions of dollars trying to referee an Islamic Civil War 7,000 miles away, while leaving the Borders utterly undefended”

I cannot impeach your logic. If Bush passes amnesty, I will be the first FReeper to call for his head. As for “Homeland Security” I also agree that the effort should emanate from our shores.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I care every bit as much about the constitution as Mr. Paul. Just not a pacifist. You get hit, you punch back hard.

Ron Paul voted for the 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force against those responsible for the 9/11 attacks. We got hit, Ron Paul voted to punch back hard.

But Deficit-Spending hundreds of billions of dollars on "Nation-Building" in Iraq is another question entirely. I did not sign on to Free Republic to support installing Islamic Theocracies around the world (and by defining the Koran as the Principal Source of Law, the Iraqi Constitution does treat Christianity as a Second-Class Religion).

[The_Eaglet]

Richard Viguerie on the GOP choices <- good comments about Ron Paul from CPAC 2007.

[bnelson44]

No it is an Internet page that can be hoaxed. All you need to do is write a script that clears out your cookies and re-vote. I did it myself on this poll. You can test it by going to Internet Settings in your browser and clearing temp files and cookies. Then cast your vote again.

The vote is fraudulent and you are waisting your time.

[SoCalPol]

I worked for Reagan here when he ran for gov.
You are an insult to Christians to call yourself one.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I cannot impeach your logic. If Bush passes amnesty, I will be the first FReeper to call for his head. As for “Homeland Security” I also agree that the effort should emanate from our shores.

Then while I would understand if your first choices were Hunter and/or Tancredo, I think you should at least give Ron Paul a fair hearing. You may not like his position on Iraq; that is your prerogative. But, given the rapidly expanding Federal Debt, I think that you must at least consider Ron Paul's argument that spending even one-tenth of the Iraq budget on Border Security, Port Security, and Coast Guard operations here at home would give us far more Anti-Terrorist "Bang for our Buck".

[The_Eaglet]

You need to move on over to DU where you can enjoy your fellow anti war idiots.

You need to read more of OrthodoxPresbyterian's posts

before throwing around vacuous insults.

[KDD]

The Time Warner-Disney-Hollywood entertainment think tanks have preselected our leaders for us. Hunter, Paul and other candidates who are far more qualified to be President then Rudy, Hillary, Obama or even Thompson are blacked out and or marginalized by this massive propaganda machine.

National debate is stifled. Ron Paul can win if people find a way out of the sheep pen that the boob tube keeps them in. If Ron Paul could win it would mark a revolutionary move back to originalist Constitutional thinking by our Executive. We might regain ground that has been lost to the creeping statism which has been steadily encroaching on this nation's people.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

No it is an Internet page that can be hoaxed. All you need to do is write a script that clears out your cookies and re-vote. I did it myself on this poll. You can test it by going to Internet Settings in your browser and clearing temp files and cookies. Then cast your vote again. The vote is fraudulent and you are waisting your time.

I attempted this. I cleared temp files, cleared cookies, closed all browser windows; then I cleared history, temp files, and cookies again, went to Drudge, and attempted to vote "Ron Paul" again.

The Drudge Report said "thank you for voting", but did NOT record my vote (the tally remained the same). Drudge has incorporated at least some anti-cheat protections.

At any rate, even if what you say is true, one would imagine that EVERY candidate has at least some web-savvy supporters hoaxing the vote. Yet, in terms of the overall ratio, three candidates have emerged as clear winners: Romney, Giuliani, and Ron Paul.