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Report: Kenya Airways 737 airliner crashes
MSNBC / Associated Press ^ | Saturday May 5 2007 | MSNBC / Associated Press

Posted on 05/05/2007 2:45:08 AM PDT by malamute

Report: Kenya Airways 737 airliner crashes

Cameroon radio says missing plane carrying 115 went down in south

YAOUNDE, Cameroon - A Kenya Airways flight with more than 100 people aboard crashed in southern Cameroon, state radio reported Saturday.

The radio report said the flight, which lost contact with airport controllers soon after taking off around midnight from Douala, Cameroon, crashed near the southern town of Niete.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: africa; cameroon; kenya; kenyaairways; plane

1 posted on 05/05/2007 2:45:10 AM PDT by malamute
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To: malamute

Prayers for those on board and their families. Damn.


2 posted on 05/05/2007 2:51:43 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Everyone wants a simple answer; but sometimes there isn't a simple answer)
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To: malamute

Statistically speaking, airplane travel is far safer than automobile travel. Over 50,000 Americans die every year on the nation’s roads and highways and many times that many are involved in accidents. Yet the rare plane crash continues to draw the big headlines.


3 posted on 05/05/2007 2:54:38 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 77 days away from outliving Curt Hennig (whoever he is))
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4 posted on 05/05/2007 2:54:50 AM PDT by csvset
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To: SamAdams76
Statistically speaking, airplane travel is far safer than automobile travel. Over 50,000 Americans die every year on the nation’s roads and highways and many times that many are involved in accidents. Yet the rare plane crash continues to draw the big headlines.

Fascination usurps statistics when driven by MSM directive.

5 posted on 05/05/2007 3:20:20 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: malamute
NATIONALITIES OF MISSING
34 Cameroon
15 India
9 Kenya (crew)
7 South Africa
6 China
6 Ivory Coast
6 Nigeria
5 Britain
3 Niger
2 Central African Republic
2 Democratic Republic of Congo
1 Ghana; Sweden; Togo; Mali; Switzerland; Comoros; Mauritius; Senegal; Congo; Egypt; Tanzania; US; Burkina Faso
6 unidentified
Source: Kenya Airways

6 posted on 05/05/2007 4:06:42 AM PDT by csvset
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To: malamute

If its like most everything else done in Africa the plane probably hadnt had the oil changed in the last million miles.


7 posted on 05/05/2007 4:12:24 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Outside of the first world there are some really bad pilots, too.


8 posted on 05/05/2007 4:17:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: EGPWS
Statistically speaking, airplane travel is far safer than automobile travel. Over 50,000 Americans die every year on the nation’s roads and highways and many times that many are involved in accidents. Yet the rare plane crash continues to draw the big headlines.

Are there any statistics available on the survivability of a technical snag occurring in a car vs. that occurring in a plane? I'd wager the automobile is more survivable. The plane has far more critical components that are likely to fail, and likely to lead to a fatal disaster, as a result, should they happen, than the car. Like always, statistics can be designed to "favour" a viewpoint.

9 posted on 05/05/2007 4:24:46 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: SamAdams76
"Yet the rare plane crash continues to draw the big headlines."

True enough. However, if you segregate the experience of the third world airlines particularly the sub saharan ones, the picture alters a lot.

There is so much corruption there that maintenance reports, spares, mechanics are all highly suspect.

10 posted on 05/05/2007 4:26:07 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: CarrotAndStick

IMO Cars are designed to be safe. Many millions have been spent in crash tests and safety devices.

Planes are designed to be light and to make money for the airline. The only safety feature is heavy maintenance to be sure they never crash.

Once a plane is assuredly headed for a crash the plan is for the passenger to lean forward and put his head between his legs, While there you can kiss you butt goodbye.


11 posted on 05/05/2007 4:30:57 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: malamute
Have you ever seen these guys land?
12 posted on 05/05/2007 4:55:10 AM PDT by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: sgtbono2002

I know, lol!


13 posted on 05/05/2007 5:00:47 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: sgtbono2002
If its like most everything else done in Africa the plane probably hadnt had the oil changed in the last million miles.

It was actually a brand new Boeing 737-800, first flight was 09/10/2006.

14 posted on 05/05/2007 5:03:30 AM PDT by dan_s
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To: CarrotAndStick
Are there any statistics available on the survivability of a technical snag occurring in a car vs. that occurring in a plane?

That's the job of the MSM in their endeavors in informing the public.

I'd wager the automobile is more survivable.

Why?

The plane has far more critical components that are likely to fail, and likely to lead to a fatal disaster, as a result, should they happen, than the car.

That's why cars don't require annual, 100 hour, 200 hour, 300 hour, 600 hour, 1000, 1200 hour, 5000 hour, 10,000 hour tear down inspections and tractability guaranteed on every part replaced on them.

Like always, statistics can be designed to "favor" a viewpoint.

15 posted on 05/05/2007 5:05:42 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS
Why?

For starters, most often, you're worried about controlling motion in two dimensions in a car, instead of the additional headache of the third dimension, on a flying plane. Add to that the field of gravity...

What I'm trying to say is that one would have to take several times more rides on a car to meet with an accident statistically, than on a plane. People don't fly as much as they drive.

16 posted on 05/05/2007 5:12:43 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: sgtbono2002
If its like most everything else done in Africa the plane probably hadn't had the oil changed in the last million miles.

The plane crashed for crying out loud, don't don't blame humans living in Africa for what happened.

Humans weren't created with the ability to fly after all...

17 posted on 05/05/2007 5:17:40 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: CarrotAndStick
People don't fly as much as they drive.

Speaking for yourself of course....

18 posted on 05/05/2007 5:19:19 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: sgtbono2002
Once a plane is assuredly headed for a crash the plan is for the passenger to lean forward and put his head between his legs, While there you can kiss you butt goodbye.

A plan not considered an option with time when one is traveling on the ground...

19 posted on 05/05/2007 5:22:20 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

Well, most of us... :)


20 posted on 05/05/2007 5:23:19 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

. . . and apples are oranges?


21 posted on 05/05/2007 7:23:00 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: dan_s

Yes. I would fly Kenya any day. South African Air might be a little nicer, but both seem to be fine organizations.


22 posted on 05/05/2007 7:40:01 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: EGPWS

“The plane crashed for crying out loud, don’t don’t blame humans living in Africa for what happened.”

You don’t know much about Africa, sounds like...


23 posted on 05/05/2007 8:15:35 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: malamute

I can almost imagine what their aircraft maintenace is like.


24 posted on 05/05/2007 8:17:48 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Paraclete

Both are fruit...


25 posted on 05/05/2007 8:59:50 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: EGPWS

We will see when the investigation ends where the fault lies. My bet is with the maintenance.


26 posted on 05/05/2007 11:49:32 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: dan_s

Maybe they missed the 1,000 mile checkup.


27 posted on 05/05/2007 11:52:30 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: SamAdams76
Statistically speaking, airplane travel is far safer than automobile travel. Over 50,000 Americans die every year on the nation’s roads and highways and many times that many are involved in accidents. Yet the rare plane crash continues to draw the big headlines.

Incidents that kill 100+ people AT ONCE usually do draw headlines, as they should.

28 posted on 05/05/2007 7:37:38 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: EGPWS
"People don't fly as much as they drive."

Speaking for yourself of course....

Speaking for most people.

29 posted on 05/05/2007 7:39:13 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: jmq

You would think the passengers in the pic you posted would atleast wait until the plan comes to a complete stop before getting off


30 posted on 05/05/2007 7:56:46 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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