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For Queen and First Lady, Bush Will Try White Tie ( "A towel-snapping Texan" )
nyt ^ | May 5, 2007 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 05/05/2007 11:20:47 AM PDT by Red Steel

WASHINGTON, May 4 — How does George W. Bush, a towel-snapping Texan who puts his feet on the coffee table, drinks water straight from the bottle and was once caught on tape talking with food in his mouth prepare for a state dinner with the queen?

With tips from an etiquette guide, of course — and a little gentle prodding from his wife.

The White House is atwitter over the visit on Monday by Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh. This is the first visit by the queen since 1991, when Mr. Bush’s father was president. White House aides say the state dinner in her honor is not only the social event of the year, but also of the entire Bush presidency.

It will be closely watched by the social elite for its collision of cultures — Texas swagger meets British prim. Dinner attire is white tie and tails, the first and, perhaps, only white-tie affair of the Bush administration. The president was said to be none too keen on that, but bowed to a higher power, his wife.

“I think Mrs. Bush is thrilled to have a white-tie dinner, and we’ll leave it at that,” Amy Zantzinger, the new White House social secretary, said on Friday as she arranged seating for 134 on a computerized screen behind her desk in the East Wing.

Ms. Zantzinger was not swamped with requests. Anybody who had not already received one of the elegant gold-rimmed invitations (hand-penned by a calligrapher and then engraved) apparently knew that it would be gauche to ask. Still, the exclusivity has created some awkward moments, as when the social secretary bumped into former President Bush, who was not on her list, in the West Wing.

“He was making jokes, and then he said,

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1 posted on 05/05/2007 11:20:50 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

And Bush is actually faithful to his wife.

How bourgeois can you get?


2 posted on 05/05/2007 11:24:17 AM PDT by altura
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To: Red Steel

Maybe it’s time for the queen to learn to drink from the bottle or talk with her mouth full.


3 posted on 05/05/2007 11:24:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: cripplecreek

Since when are you not supposed to drink water from the bottle anyways?


4 posted on 05/05/2007 11:27:01 AM PDT by furquhart (Gingrich for President)
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To: cripplecreek

I’d cook her up a killer chicken fried steak with killer white gravy. Some fried okra and pecan pie to finish.

MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


5 posted on 05/05/2007 11:27:35 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Red Steel

 

6 posted on 05/05/2007 11:27:38 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Red Steel
Prince Philip Stumbles Over Aborigine Remark

Who needs a lesson in manners...?

7 posted on 05/05/2007 11:31:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Red Steel
How does George W. Bush, a towel-snapping Texan who puts his feet on the coffee table, drinks water straight from the bottle and was once caught on tape talking with food in his mouth prepare for a state dinner with the queen?

Catty. President Bush is the President of the United States...who the hell are the authors? As IF they would be fit for this dinner and are accustomed to meeting with umpteen dignitaries.

8 posted on 05/05/2007 11:44:03 AM PDT by KJC1 (ham is not a toy)
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To: mewzilla
Defences up after ‘Royal gaffe’
9 posted on 05/05/2007 11:47:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Red Steel

Okay, does anybody seriously think any child of George and (particularly) Barbara Bush’s doesn’t have at least a passing familiarity with the fine points of best behavior?


10 posted on 05/05/2007 11:49:33 AM PDT by RichInOC (George W. Bush is smarter than a lot of the people calling him stupid.)
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To: Red Steel

Drinks water from a bottle!!?? Does this man’s perfidy know no bounds?!


11 posted on 05/05/2007 11:50:17 AM PDT by Carl LaFong ( Enough Is Too Much !)
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To: advertising guy

Ok.... but I’m crashing the party! lol


12 posted on 05/05/2007 11:52:03 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: KJC1

It is the height of bad manners to call attention to the social faux paux of others. Guess the authors fail in the good manners dept.


13 posted on 05/05/2007 11:53:47 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Red Steel
“I think Mrs. Bush is thrilled to have a white-tie dinner, and we’ll leave it at that,” Amy Zantzinger, the new White House social secretary, said...

I think she's the only Bush to be "thrilled" at a fancy-dress party.

What exactly is a "towel-snapping Texan" anyway? Well, if he snaps that inbred old woman from Britain, it would at least liven up diplomatic relations among the Anglosphere.
14 posted on 05/05/2007 11:53:51 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP Rudi = Hillary)
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To: Red Steel

Is the queen demanding the white tie? why is this only coming up now?


15 posted on 05/05/2007 11:55:33 AM PDT by Capt. Cox (evangelicalsformitt.org)
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To: Red Steel
This is the first visit by (a) queen since 1991,

I thought Elton John visited the White House during the Clinton years. Shirley, that qualifies.

16 posted on 05/05/2007 11:58:03 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: Red Steel

Can you imagine the reaction in the media if someone on the right displayed such an arrogant, elitist attitude towards a Democrat? It would be in the headlines for months, investigations, resignations and jail time would be demanded.


17 posted on 05/05/2007 11:58:05 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: KJC1
"Catty. President Bush is the President of the United States...who the hell are the authors? As IF they would be fit for this dinner and are accustomed to meeting with umpteen dignitaries."

Exactly! President Bush has traveld to more nations and has met with more world leaders than any president in the history of the USA. The authors are idiots.

18 posted on 05/05/2007 11:58:39 AM PDT by avacado
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To: advertising guy

...or some catfish and slaw with corn on the cob on the side and peach cobbler for dessert. Good eatin’


19 posted on 05/05/2007 12:01:24 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Carl LaFong
Drinks water from a bottle!!?? Does this man’s perfidy know no bounds?!

The uncouth lout! The bounder! Most shocking behavior indeed, dontcha know.

20 posted on 05/05/2007 12:03:01 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Red Steel

Gee, the NYT is a snotty rag! Who’da thunk it??


21 posted on 05/05/2007 12:03:49 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Red Steel
from the article ...... For women, curtseying is acceptable, but not required.... However, isn't there a rule that elected officials do not bow or curtsey to foreign powers when both are on American soil?
22 posted on 05/05/2007 12:06:32 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Red Steel
George W. Bush, a towel-snapping Texan who puts his feet on the coffee table, drinks water straight from the bottle and was once caught on tape talking with food in his mouth

They act like that's a bad thing.

The visit has brought a sense of giddiness to a White House worn down by the Iraq war and fights with Democrats in Congress, as well as distracted by a sex scandal that brought the resignation of a top State Department official

What planet does the NYTimes live on? Sex scandal? For some low level state department official? This is the MSM simply trying to slime the administration with a drop like that.

Even some bipartisanship was in the air. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat known for her elegance, will attend the dinner

Oh, good; at least somebody with some class will be there.

23 posted on 05/05/2007 12:07:02 PM PDT by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing.)
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To: altura

Drinks water from a bottle, eh? Is that more uncouth than leaving stains on the dress of woman who’s not your wife? Guess not. :)


25 posted on 05/05/2007 12:15:54 PM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: Red Steel

At least he won’t ask her for a BJ in the oval office.


26 posted on 05/05/2007 12:16:37 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: altura
"bourgeois"

You think the Slimes ever discoursed on Slick Willy's overly coarse mannerisms? I doubt it. The whole import of the article is to say "hey, this stupid rube is actually going to speak to a cultured person. Oh, are we embarrassed!" I would bet on Dubya's behaving himself in polite company a lot more the Clinton. The Queen is probably not too old for Bill to take a pass at her. All females are in jeopardy when he strolls in. Even five thousand year old Andean mummies.

27 posted on 05/05/2007 12:24:36 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: RichInOC

You said it. Besides...I remember when the clintins gave some kind of party fo dignitaries outside in a tent. hilllereee was wearing this outlandish outfit...if memory serves me right it was YELLOW. Yikes.
I think President Bush knows what to wear and how to act.


28 posted on 05/05/2007 12:27:14 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: RichInOC

You said it. Besides...I remember when the clintins gave some kind of party fo dignitaries outside in a tent. hilllereee was wearing this outlandish outfit...if memory serves me right it was YELLOW. Yikes.
I think President Bush knows what to wear and how to act.


29 posted on 05/05/2007 12:27:17 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: loreldan

Will she be wearing a suit and her scarf or whatever it is she wears all the time? Is that her signature piece?


30 posted on 05/05/2007 12:27:58 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: KingSnorky

and...having it happen in the white house? I think NOT. You have class or your don’t. the clintins don’t even know the meaning of the word.


31 posted on 05/05/2007 12:28:43 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: KingSnorky

and...having it happen in the white house? I think NOT. You have class or your don’t. the clintins don’t even know the meaning of the word.


32 posted on 05/05/2007 12:28:49 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: KingSnorky

and...having it happen in the white house? I think NOT. You have class or your don’t. the clintins don’t even know the meaning of the word.


33 posted on 05/05/2007 12:28:49 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: furquhart
"Since when are you not supposed to drink water from the bottle anyways?"

"The best bred amongst us know that water is properly lapped from the commode..."

34 posted on 05/05/2007 12:29:00 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Red Steel
All will be fine.


35 posted on 05/05/2007 12:30:07 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: George W. Bush

> Well, if he snaps that inbred old woman from Britain, it would at least liven up diplomatic relations among the Anglosphere.

(grin!) I think she’s actually more German than British...


36 posted on 05/05/2007 12:31:14 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: Red Steel

And they wonder why the rest of the country dispises Easterners. This bunch of effete snobs, who never drink water out of a bottle, has anything in common with 90% of the populace of the USA. Maybe a virus could be introduced that would eliminate metrosexuals.


37 posted on 05/05/2007 12:34:01 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

Not all Easterners. Just urban leftist Easterners.


38 posted on 05/05/2007 12:36:43 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Red Steel

Why does Bush need to prepare to meet the Queen? Why does the Queen not need to prepare to meet the President of the United States? The President of the United States is far and away the most powerful person on the planet.


39 posted on 05/05/2007 12:37:33 PM PDT by undeniable logic
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To: Red Steel
This is nothing more than a New York Times hit piece on the President. In fact, the so-called Texas swagger is not the core George W. Bush, who went to Connecticut boarding schools and Yale University and whose parents are stereotypical Northeastern WASPs. In 1978, he was defeated for a Congressional seat in West Texas by Kent Hance, largely because he was not Texan enough. Hance pointed out Bush's Connecticut birth and East Coast education vs. his own Lubbock roots and Texas Tech alumnus status. After the defeat, the future President decided that he would not be "out-Texaned" again and worked on a "good ol' boy" persona.

The New York Times knows this, but did not let these facts interfere with a cheap attack on the President.

40 posted on 05/05/2007 12:50:14 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: advertising guy

I remember reading somewhere that FDR served hot dogs to visiting English royalty?


41 posted on 05/05/2007 12:51:35 PM PDT by fzx12345 (ACLU DELENDA EST)
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To: Red Steel
I'll take a towel snapping Texan anyday before this:


42 posted on 05/05/2007 12:54:10 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Red Steel
This is the first visit by the queen since 1991, when Mr. Bush’s father was president

I guess she too didn't care for the actions of the former White House occupants.
Speaks pretty well of "W" and Laura to have the Queen and her date show up to visit.

43 posted on 05/05/2007 1:18:44 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () On 9-11 Muslim missionaries came a callin' ()
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To: Red Steel

Is this “writer” for the NYT calling the President a towel-snappy head of homeland?


44 posted on 05/05/2007 1:22:17 PM PDT by mikrofon ("All the News that Fits our Views")
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To: undeniable logic
Why does Bush need to prepare to meet the Queen? Why does the Queen not need to prepare to meet the President of the United States?

I agree.

45 posted on 05/05/2007 1:54:40 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: cripplecreek
Maybe it’s time for the queen to learn to drink from the bottle or talk with her mouth full.

Not that I spend much time following the Royal Family, but more than once I've read that the Queen personally doesn't get nearly as hung up about all this "protocol" stuff as her staff (and much of the rest of her family) does. And even if she did, she'd keep it to herself.

46 posted on 05/05/2007 1:57:33 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (My voting record: Rudy '89, Rudy '93, Rudy '97, Rudy '08. (Why not piss off BOTH sides?))
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To: undeniable logic
The President of the United States is far and away the most powerful person on the planet.

Power is not everything. Tradition and what comes with it, which includes royalty, trumps power. Her nation has been around for close to 1000 years and may it be so for another 1000 years.

47 posted on 05/05/2007 2:00:16 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Red Steel
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of the term “white tie.”
48 posted on 05/05/2007 2:00:34 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Red Steel
She’s NOT “The Queen” over here. She’s just an important visiting dignitary of a usually-allied nation. No American should curtsy or bow to her.
49 posted on 05/05/2007 2:03:53 PM PDT by bannie
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To: LaineyDee

bring it on, we cook a zillion chicken fried steaks at a line. In Texas a “Big John” is two chicken fries on the plate.


50 posted on 05/05/2007 2:06:05 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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