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Are American Democrats De Facto Socialists? by Lee Ellis
Family Security Matters ^ | May 4, 2007 | Lee Ellis

Posted on 05/05/2007 11:45:23 AM PDT by K-oneTexas

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Some have decided.
1 posted on 05/05/2007 11:45:25 AM PDT by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas

No, they’re national socialists.


2 posted on 05/05/2007 11:49:01 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: K-oneTexas
This is still a question? I thought the Democrat/socialist point was pretty much rock-solid about 30 years ago.

It’s time to move to a question that truly needs to be addressed...are a majority of the elected Democrats committing sedition, or treason?

3 posted on 05/05/2007 11:49:11 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: K-oneTexas

Democratic National Committee chair Howard Dean has stated that “Bernie Sanders (Socialist from Vermont) votes with the Democrats 98 percent of the time” and “A victory for Bernie Sanders is a win for Democrats.” Couldn’t be much clearer.


4 posted on 05/05/2007 11:55:14 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: K-oneTexas

Is the Pope Catholic?


5 posted on 05/05/2007 11:58:22 AM PDT by twntaipan (Who needs jihad when you have the dhimmicrats?)
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To: Chi-townChief

They sure are. Socialists, Communists, Fascists, Moonbats,
Pervs, Freaks, anti-Christian, anti-U.S. military, enemies of private property rights, enemies of the unborn, anti-business, anti-white, angry all the time, America haters.
The face of the modern “Democrat” party.


6 posted on 05/05/2007 12:11:08 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My Number One Goal in Life is to Leave a Bigger Carbon Foot Print Than Al Gore)
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To: K-oneTexas

My dad blamed it on transistor radios and that it made it too easy for kids to listen to Radio Havana. That might explain Olbermann.


7 posted on 05/05/2007 12:12:25 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: K-oneTexas
“Are American Democrats De Facto Socialists?”

NO! They are de jure Socialists!

8 posted on 05/05/2007 12:13:41 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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To: K-oneTexas

Very good post, thank you. I can add this to my own research. What many Americans aren’t aware of is that there is only one conspiracy that has been put into effect many generations ago. The deception is actually mindboggling and orchestrated through many different organizations, societies and throughout our government. It is linked and a co-orchestrator is in England.

They have a 5 step program that has been in effect for generations with the following objectives that has been in play for longer than you want to know..and it has been working....

1. Demolish the very foundations of Biblical Morality.
2. Dismantle the family, patriotism, and individual liberty.
3. Discard our Constitution and the Republic which it established.
4. Destroy the American Free Enterprise System.
5. Direct our attention toward the United Nations which will Drag and if necessary Drug, us into the global government for which it was established.

These objectives are being handled little by little for generations to accomplish as a matter of design with a definite plan of action and actual perpetrators at the helm.

Americans also aren’t aware that after the CFR was formed, they started a plan to systemically destroy the American Governmental system.

The first step was to own the Philosophies of the colleges, seminaries, newspapers, TV stations and Movie production access.....

Check out how many of the college professors and newscasters belong to the CFR.

Quote: “The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, but under the name of Liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program until on day, America will be a Socialist nation without knowing how it happened”. Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist party. [Two Worlds, Flick-Reedy Education Enterprises, Bensenville, IL, 1966, page 90 & page 152]


9 posted on 05/05/2007 12:15:51 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: K-oneTexas

I’m afraid it’s too late.


10 posted on 05/05/2007 12:16:42 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: RavenATB

Treason.


11 posted on 05/05/2007 12:17:14 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: K-oneTexas

How could this still even be a question except among the terminally ignorant or naive?


12 posted on 05/05/2007 12:18:58 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: paratrooper82
>>>“Are American Democrats De Facto Socialists?”
>>>NO! They are de jure Socialists!

NO! They are NOT de jure Socialists!
They de jure “Fine Americans.”
They are de facto Socialists and self-serving crooks.

13 posted on 05/05/2007 12:20:06 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: K-oneTexas; y'all
Socialists, - those who advocate 'majority rule' make the ludicrous claim that when people form a society, they can decide which of our inalienable rights they will protect and to what extent.

This warped view, that our basic rights to life, liberty, or property are subject to the will of a majority is a socialistic communitarian dream.
- It's a political disease.

Our basic rights are inherent and inalienable. They come from no person or government, and therefor cannot be infringed/prohibited.
-- Various levels of government in the USA have been delegated the powers to reasonably regulate, with due process of law, various aspects of owning property and living a life of liberty:

    "-- [T]he full scope of the liberty guaranteed by the Due Process Clause `cannot be found in or limited by the precise terms of the specific guarantees elsewhere provided in the Constitution.
This `liberty´ is not a series of isolated points pricked out in terms of the taking of property;
the freedom of speech, press, and religion;
the right to keep and bear arms;
the freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures; and so on. 
It is a rational continuum which, broadly speaking, includes a freedom from all substantial arbitrary impositions and purposeless restraints, . ."
-Justice Harlan-

14 posted on 05/05/2007 12:21:05 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: K-oneTexas

A Pope-is-Catholic’esque question.

The more relevant question are Republicans actually de facto socialists unaware?


15 posted on 05/05/2007 12:22:00 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: K-oneTexas

Relative to the notion that schools are inflitrated by Socialist......

Horace Mann, who was titled “father of American public education wrote:

“What the church has been for medieval man, the public school must become for democratic and rational man. God would be replaced by the concept of the public good.”

[Mann, Horace, quoted by Phyllis Shaffley, Education for the 70’s, an NEA Report, Utah Independent, December 23, 1976]

Paul Brandwein, an influential educator taught that “Any Child who believes in God is mentally ill”. [The Social Sciences, Harcourt Brace, 1970, p. T10]

Dr. Pierce of Harvard University stated some of the same ideas.....when he addressed 2,000 teachers in Denver, Co in 1973. quote: “Every Child in America who enters school at the age of five is mentally ill., because he comes to school with allegiance toward our elected officials, toward our founding fathers, toward our institutions, toward the preservations of this form of government, patriotism, nationality, sovereignty, All of that proves the children are sick, because the truly well individual is one who has rejected all of those things and is what I would call the true international child of the future.

[Dr. Pierce of Harvard University addressing 2,000 teachers in Denver, Co. 1973. See Education to Remold the Child in Parent and Child Advocates RT. 4 Watertown, WI 53094 p 30]

Importantly, Bertrand Russell, a humanist philosopher also said, “[Johann Fichte, a professional educator] laid down that education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable ....of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished.” [New Education, Order or Chaos, Granger Graphics, Yorba Linda, CA]

Ashley Montagu spoke to 1,000 home economics teachers in Anaheim, Ca. and stated, “The American Family Structure produces mentally ill children”. [Nesbit, Vince, Humanistic Morals and Values Education, NSW 2066, Australia, p 5, also, in Lecture at Anaheim, CA to 1000 home economic teachers, Nov 9, 1970]


So, it seems that the NWO folks through the CFR think the same thing............


16 posted on 05/05/2007 12:22:03 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: K-oneTexas
Hitlery a socialist? Nah... Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
17 posted on 05/05/2007 12:22:53 PM PDT by rbosque
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

They sure are. Socialists, Communists, Fascists, Moonbats,
Pervs, Freaks, anti-Christian, anti-U.S. military, enemies of private property rights, enemies of the unborn, anti-business, anti-white, angry all the time, America haters.
The face of the modern “Democrat” party.
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Well stated. An ugly cancer that a passive public still tolerates which is really killing this country...while the cancerous perversion of socialism starts in our “schools” and captures the naive minds of our young, and the selfish minds of stupid adults that live on just being told what they want to hear, regardless of how false and unreal it might be.


18 posted on 05/05/2007 12:23:14 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: dgallo51

ping


19 posted on 05/05/2007 12:23:54 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: rbosque

Hitlery a socialist? Nah...
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** WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THINGS AWAY FROM YOU FOR THE COMMON GOOD **

Get ready to fight a war against repressive socialism.


20 posted on 05/05/2007 12:24:43 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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