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GIULIANI URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY (1999, Jonathan Pollard)
Times Union | Sep 29, 1999 | Stewart M. Powell

Posted on 05/06/2007 11:57:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl

WASHINGTON -- New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani urged President Clinton Tuesday to free convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, a move that could boost Jewish support for the Republican's prospective Senate campaign -- and complicate a possible run in 2000 by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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Regarding Pollard, Giuliani said the Israeli deserves presidential clemency because the life sentence for espionage given him in 1987 goes "way beyond" sentences given in the past to American citizens convicted of spying for a U.S. ally.

Pollard, a former civilian U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, has already served a longer prison term than enemy spies who are routinely traded by their governments, according to Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor and associate attorney general in the Justice Department.

"It seems to me that there was an appropriate basis on which the President could exercise his discretion and cut that particular sentence," Giuliani said, adding that Pollard has "served much more than anyone else convicted of the same thing."

Giuliani stressed that he was restating a position that he had taken on the Pollard case "a couple of years ago" rather than announcing a new position.

The Clinton administration continues to review clemency for Pollard following repeated requests by the Israeli government. ...

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Giuliani deflected questions about whether he would endorse Texas Gov. George W. Bush as the Republican presidential nominee. The Associated Press quoted a top New York GOP official as saying the mayor could make such an announcement on Thursday.


TOPICS: Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: drek; espionage; fugazy; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; milken; nationalsecurity; pollard; spy
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1 posted on 05/06/2007 11:57:45 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Reagan Man; dirtboy; Liz; flashbunny; stephenjohnbanker; jedward

FYI, from the “tough on crime”, “national security” candidate.


2 posted on 05/06/2007 11:59:41 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Rudy....”The open borders/national security candidate”


3 posted on 05/06/2007 12:03:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: calcowgirl
No. Pollard is still trying to pass “hot” data to Israel. Now, I’d swap Pollard for Vanunu, but that seems to upset the Israelis.
4 posted on 05/06/2007 12:04:53 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: calcowgirl

The facts keep rolling in, exposing Rooty for his liberal politics. Rooty takes another hit, knocked down another notch. This is great stuff.


5 posted on 05/06/2007 12:17:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: calcowgirl
Pollard the Spy
6 posted on 05/06/2007 12:18:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: calcowgirl

Releasing a traitor to get votes. Now there’s an admirable quality. Thanks calcowgirl!


7 posted on 05/06/2007 12:23:06 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: SpaceBar
Whenever I feel bad for Pollard,  I think of the USS Liberty until the sympathy goes away.
8 posted on 05/06/2007 12:25:45 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: calcowgirl

Great find!

BTW!

I’ve been trying to connect Rudy with Mauro Giuliani who 1819 left Vienna, mainly for financial reasons: his property and bank accounts were confiscated to pay his debtors.

This could be another smoking gun exposing the Giuliani family (if this is one of his ancestors) to lack of knowledge when it comes to finances.

Mauro Giuliani appears to have had an illegitimate daughter named Maria.

Anybody got more info on this stuff?


9 posted on 05/06/2007 12:26:30 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Reagan Man

LOL. Michael Milken served a whole 18 months of his 10 year sentence, and Rudy thinks he served his time?

And according to this, Rudy wasn’t just calling for Clemency for Pollard, but a PARDON!

http://www.jonathanpollard.org/2001/012201a.htm

Giuliani said he was “shocked” that Clinton was not merciful to felons who truly turned their lives around, such as disgraced Wall Street wizard Michael Milken, or Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard.

“Michael Milken has paid his price,” Giuliani said. “Unlike Marc Rich, he actually went to jail, actually paid his dues to society.”

The junk bond king was one of the high-profile convictions Giuliani won as federal prosecutor. After serving 22 months of a 10-year sentence, Milken became a philanthropist who crusaded for a cure for prostate cancer and counseled the mayor on his own bout with the disease.

As for Pollard, Giuliani said he is “probably serving the longest sentence any spy has ever served” and deserved a pardon.

Giuliani also joined cop groups in blasting Clinton for pardoning Susan Rosenberg, who was linked to - but never charged with - a 1981 Brink’s armored car robbery that left two police officers dead in Nyack, Rockland County.

Rosenberg enjoyed her first day of freedom yesterday after being sprung from the federal prison in Danbury, Conn., on Saturday. She could not be located for comment.

Among the others getting pardons were Clinton’s half-brother, Roger, and Clinton’s Whitewater business partner Susan McDougal. Giuliani’s friend William Fugazy, a former limousine mogul, also received a pardon from Clinton.

“Again, unlike the Marc Rich case, Bill Fugazy pled guilty, was sentenced, paid his price,” the mayor said, adding that Fugazy “may be one of the most charitable people in the City of New York.”


10 posted on 05/06/2007 12:30:35 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: tsowellfan

1819???? You cannot be serious.


11 posted on 05/06/2007 12:36:38 PM PDT by sofaman ("There will only be peace in Israel when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews")
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To: sofaman

He left in 1819 for financial reasons and his property and bank accounts were confiscated to pay his debtors! Then he goes out and has a daughter and wasnt even married.


12 posted on 05/06/2007 12:38:53 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl; Reagan Man; stephenjohnbanker; jedward; Condor51; raybbr; Alberta's Child; ...
Not to worry. Jonathan Pollard (who stole US national security secrets) may still be in jail, but security "expert" Rudy Giuliani is still reaping the benefits of his efforts..........even though Rudy's nose IS a little browner.

Tearing up the Saudi check, tossing Arafat out of the concert, urging Clinton to release Pollard----hey, every little bit helps when you're running for president. Read on.

EXCERPT April 21, 2007 -- A group of Israelis has launched a grass-roots effort to get people living in the Jewish state who are eligible to vote in the United States to line up behind Rudy Giuliani, it was reported yesterday. The group, Giuliani Supporters in Israel, was launched by Mordechai Twersky, a onetime candidate for state Assembly in The Bronx ...... "I did this as a private personal initiative, as a proud American and Israeli citizen..." Twersky told the NY Post. He said the Giuliani campaign hadn't set up his group, but that he's been in contact with Team Giuliani......Giuliani has historically been popular with Jewish voters, and took a hard pro-Israel line when he was in office........ In some past elections, planeloads of Israelis with American citizenship have flown to the United States to vote.

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/seven/04212007/news/nationalnews/giuliani_bandwagon_branches_out_to_israel_nationalnews_maggie_haberman.htm

13 posted on 05/06/2007 12:43:43 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: tsowellfan
in 1819?????

ROFLOL!

You are THAT desperate to dig up dirt on Giuliani? This is hilarious!

14 posted on 05/06/2007 12:43:49 PM PDT by sofaman ("There will only be peace in Israel when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews")
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To: calcowgirl

I just did a search and I think Hunter should really publically call Rudy on the carpet for this

http://tinyurl.com/243rz6


15 posted on 05/06/2007 12:46:09 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl

This is my thoughts on Rudy: Right after 911 he had these people on the streets removed by ground zero who were selling 911 tee shirts, 911 hats, 911 posters, etc etc. Disgusting opportunistic pigs he said. What he called those people, that`s how I see this RINO today. If this idiot uses 911 anymore than he has to enrich and promote himself, I`m going to puke. The only thing he ever did during 911 was not leave the city. If that makes him “Amercias Mayor” then what does that make Ray Nagin?


16 posted on 05/06/2007 12:46:43 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for the ping. Nice find.

Giuliani proves once again he’s “tough on crime”, and THE “national security” candidate (gag, heave, spew).

Kerik hogging FBI files is a distinct possibility.


17 posted on 05/06/2007 12:47:28 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz
sniff, sniff sniff!

Interesting bait that you're throwing out...

Your contention is what, exactly?

18 posted on 05/06/2007 12:48:14 PM PDT by sofaman ("There will only be peace in Israel when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews")
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To: Liz

LOL!


19 posted on 05/06/2007 12:51:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Screamname

“On 9/11 I announce as the 9/11 candidate. I would not even be here on 9/11 if 9/11 had not happened.

I own 9/11. 9/11 is my lucky number.

Even my dog is named 9/11. And my wife has 9/11 tattoed on her thigh.

I get up at 911 AM everyday and retire at 911 PM.

I only buy cars that get 9 to 11 miles to the gallon.

9/11 is the lottery number I play everyday.

I live on 911 Ninth Street at the corner of 11th Avenue.

I’m buying the 7/11 store chain and renaming it 9/11. 9/11 will be forever embedded in the memory of 9/11
post-America.

I shall make 9/11 a national holiday....that’s why I’m running.”


20 posted on 05/06/2007 12:53:44 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz

21 posted on 05/06/2007 12:54:00 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Liz
I guess the lack of an answer clearly explains your comment.

Stormfront is two doors down on the right.

22 posted on 05/06/2007 12:55:03 PM PDT by sofaman ("There will only be peace in Israel when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews")
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To: Liz

Dang! We need to get rid of dual citizenship, NOW!
And all elected politicians, State and Fed, should hold citizenship in only ONE country (yeah, Arnie—that’s YOU, too).

Thanks for that link... I missed it but now see it was posted at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821141/posts
GIULIANI BANDWAGON BRANCHES OUT TO ISRAEL


23 posted on 05/06/2007 12:58:54 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: monkapotamus; All

(graphic courtesy of monkapotamus' expertise)

" Oh, please, let me sound conservative. Who knew I'd need those
'dumb pro-life Christian conservatives' to make a primary showing?

They're killing me on FR just b/c I had three wives, several mistresses,
was honored by NARAL, donated to Planned Parenthood, and marched
for gay rights under the NAMBLA banner."

24 posted on 05/06/2007 12:59:37 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: tsowellfan
I’ve been trying to connect Rudy with Mauro Giuliani

Why?

25 posted on 05/06/2007 1:03:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: tsowellfan

You’re not implying I made this up, are you?

Check it out at your public library—or buy a lexis/nexis account.
The Times Union doesn’t archive their articles online prior to 2005.

Here’s the full citation for your further research:

Giuliani urges Clinton to release Israeli spy; [THREE STAR Edition]
STEWART M. POWELL Times Union Washington bureau. Times Union. Albany, N.Y.: Sep 29, 1999. pg. A.1


26 posted on 05/06/2007 1:10:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Thanks for that link... I missed it but now see it was posted at FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821141/posts GIULIANI BANDWAGON BRANCHES OUT TO ISRAEL

So sorry, cal. My error.

I was remiss in not posting the FR link.

Thanks for posting it.

27 posted on 05/06/2007 1:13:46 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz
So sorry, cal. My error.

No problem. :-)

28 posted on 05/06/2007 1:15:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
You’re not implying I made this up, are you?

I would have no reason to imply that. I saw the story from other sources just before you posted it.

Is there a reason to doubt this about Rudy? Forgive me, I just dont understand how you could have come to such a conclusion. Maybe you accidentally posted your reply to me instead of whoever implied that.

29 posted on 05/06/2007 1:16:19 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


30 posted on 05/06/2007 1:18:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Liz

Off topic a little bit, but has anything been posted about Giuliani flip-flopping on the Terri Schiavo case during the debate?


31 posted on 05/06/2007 1:20:11 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: calcowgirl

Watta sweetheart-——grin.


32 posted on 05/06/2007 1:20:11 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: tsowellfan

The link in your post #15.

What were you trying to say then?


33 posted on 05/06/2007 1:20:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: garv

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1828781/posts

Giuliani flips on Schiavo case
St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 5, 2007 | By ADAM C. SMITH
Posted on 05/05/2007 3:06:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson


34 posted on 05/06/2007 1:22:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: garv

Yeah-—I did see a reference to that on FR. If I had known you’d be asking, I would have taken notes (grin).


35 posted on 05/06/2007 1:22:33 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: garv
Off topic a little bit, but has anything been posted about Giuliani flip-flopping on the Terri Schiavo case during the debate?

Nothing yet. I did come up with Ed Koch calling Rudy a "nasty man" in a google search. That's about it.

36 posted on 05/06/2007 1:23:02 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl; garv

Damn, this girl’s good, eh, garv?

Links and all. Wow.


37 posted on 05/06/2007 1:25:11 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: calcowgirl

Bumping up so all can see just how tough Rudi is on criminals!


38 posted on 05/06/2007 1:25:32 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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To: calcowgirl

post 15:
Google Search results:

Your search - “Duncan hunter URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY in 1999” - did not match any documents.

(It means Duncan Hunter could be the one to call Rudy out on this.)

I wanted to make sure Hunter was clean before I made the suggestion. I wasnt born yesterday.


39 posted on 05/06/2007 1:25:44 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl; Liz; tsowellfan

Thanks, that was quick. I saw a replay of the debate this morning and realized that he had flipped. Shocking, not.


40 posted on 05/06/2007 1:28:12 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: tsowellfan; garv
.....has anything been posted about Giuliani flip-flopping on the Terri Schiavo case during the debate? ....... Nothing yet. I did come up with Ed Koch calling Rudy a "nasty man" in a google search. That's about it.....

ROTFLMBO----now that's funny.

41 posted on 05/06/2007 1:28:55 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: tsowellfan; Admin Moderator

Stirring up a little dust, eh? You might want to start making some sense pretty soon or else some would peg you as a disrupter.


42 posted on 05/06/2007 1:29:01 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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To: tsowellfan
My apologies. As the google search results you posted were empty, I incorrectly assumed you were implying it did not exist. I couldn't figure out the Hunter reference. Sorry about that.

BTW, Ed Koch wrote a whole book on Rudy. The title: "Nasty Man." :-)

43 posted on 05/06/2007 1:30:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz

ROFL!


44 posted on 05/06/2007 1:31:00 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

rofl


45 posted on 05/06/2007 1:32:05 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: tsowellfan; calcowgirl
I wanted to make sure Hunter was clean before I made the suggestion. I wasn't born yesterday.

Man, you are such an asset to FR.

Cal did good posting this thread---to showoff tsowellfan's many talents.

46 posted on 05/06/2007 1:33:50 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz; CAluvdubya

You know, that comment went right by me the first time.

Thanks you two.


47 posted on 05/06/2007 1:38:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz

Thanks, Liz!

Soon we will see Mcain and Giuliani beat each other down and Fred Thompson will come in through the dust


48 posted on 05/06/2007 1:39:00 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl

This Pollard article and anything else on the “Nasty Man” also belong in FR’s Rudy Giuliani Truth File, as follows.

Posted on 04/25/2007 by Jim Robinson

The Rudy Giuliani Truth File in his own words and deeds - quotes, speeches, transcripts, clips, reports........This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds. Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, that you can find re:

NYC budgets,

NYC spending,

political appointments,

gun grabs,

connections to the gun control lobby,

lawsuits against gun manufacturers,

the truth about crime reduction in NYC,

private property grabs,

asset forfeitures,

abuses of office,

individual rights trampling,

constitution trampling,

violations of public trust,

violations of the rule of law,

national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911,

corruption, graft, bribes, favors,

union dealings, mob dealings,

business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts,

rainmaking for his business partners,

connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani’s government offices especially if he becomes president,

war profiteering,

his personal and business finances,

his train wreck of a private life and lack of character,

lack of qualifications for high office,

illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby,

support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies,

NARAL connections,

participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold,

connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies,

etc, etc, etc,

The Rudy Giuliani Truth File http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1823139/posts?page=51


49 posted on 05/06/2007 1:54:02 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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