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GIULIANI URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY (1999, Jonathan Pollard)
Times Union | Sep 29, 1999 | Stewart M. Powell

Posted on 05/06/2007 11:57:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: jedward
You should see my spelling at around 2:30 in the morning.

God forbid I'm posting at 2:30 am. ;)

151 posted on 05/07/2007 8:34:19 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

Who exactly are you implying that I am loyal to?


152 posted on 05/07/2007 8:37:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; veronica; jedward

“Before sentencing, and in violation of the plea agreement, Pollard and his wife Anne gave defiant media interviews in which they defended their spying, and attempted to rally American Jews to their cause. In a 60 Minutes interview, Anne said, “I feel my husband and I did what we were expected to do, and what our moral obligation was as Jews, what our moral obligation was as human beings, and I have no regrets about that.”

Not a good idea right before sentencing! He might have got 10 years without the posturing.


153 posted on 05/07/2007 8:40:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: veronica

Only if I absolutely can’t sleep Unfortunately that’s more the rule than the exception. When I start leaving complete words out of sentences, I usually try to pry myself away (lol)


154 posted on 05/07/2007 8:41:10 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl
U.S. voter interest surges in Israel

"October 1, 2004

JERUSALEM - For Republicans and Democrats vying for Jewish votes, it's become a well-worn clich‚: a handful of votes in Florida could swing this year's presidential election.

What's not so well known is that those Florida votes might not even be in Florida.

Six thousand ex-Floridians living in Israel and the territories are eligible to vote in U.S. elections in November - over 10 times the number that decided the 2000 election for George W. Bush."

155 posted on 05/07/2007 8:41:13 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
So you say.

Who exactly are you implying that I am loyal to?

156 posted on 05/07/2007 8:48:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

No comment on post #153?

I think it is significant to the sentencing.


157 posted on 05/07/2007 8:52:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; veronica
No comment on post #153? I think it is significant to the sentencing.

I agree. And it just reinforces my belief.
He was a traitor, and an unapologetic one at that.
No punishment is too great.

Right now, I'm pretty ticked off at someone questioning my loyalty to the U.S.A. and being too cowardly to respond.

158 posted on 05/07/2007 8:54:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Pollard went on a left wing tv show, and as much as said to the judge.....F you!!


159 posted on 05/07/2007 8:57:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: calcowgirl

The other one who disappeared first was worse . The name caller.


160 posted on 05/07/2007 8:59:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

That’s a good summary of events!

We need to work with our allies, but when an ally is put in front of the US of A, to the detriment of our National Security and risking the lives of Americans, the harshest punishment is in order. Let him rot in jail.


161 posted on 05/07/2007 9:00:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

After reading up on it the past half hour, I agree!


162 posted on 05/07/2007 9:02:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The other one who disappeared first was worse . The name caller.

I was wondering if they were the same person.
Throw out rhetoric and insults and then disappear.

163 posted on 05/07/2007 9:02:33 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I agree!


164 posted on 05/07/2007 9:05:24 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl

It helps that you disolved their logic. Hat tip to you!


165 posted on 05/07/2007 9:06:40 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl
Not this s**t again!

Pollard should be dropped in a hole and left to rot (or be shot).

166 posted on 05/07/2007 9:06:41 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: jedward; calcowgirl

Reason # 1,212 not to vote for Rudy : )


167 posted on 05/07/2007 9:10:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: jedward

Thank ya, sir. :-)


168 posted on 05/07/2007 9:17:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: jedward
Technically idiots are citizens too.

Exactly which ally are comparing Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Egypt and Egypt to? England? Canada?

169 posted on 05/08/2007 3:55:02 AM PDT by bvw
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To: calcowgirl
I question your intelligence. I question your spite. I question your hatreds. Who needs that kind of "loyal citizen", anyway?

Quoting the grand master klagon, Condor51. I notice he left off the top loyalty of all. Loyalty to our Creator.

What would Condor51 think of George Bush hosting the Queen of England? Dual loyalties. After all, Mr. Bush said we were the "children" of England.

Or of FDR supporting Britain during the period before December 7th, 1941 -- gee, that must have been tough for a staunch "pure loyalty" America Firster.

Idiots then, idiots now.

170 posted on 05/08/2007 4:09:23 AM PDT by bvw
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To: calcowgirl; Condor51
Your contributions to FR are immeasurable, and most gratifying. We laud your
infinite wisdom in the defense of American values and your unquestioned love of
country. You exhibit the steadfast spirit of America.....one of FR's key missions.


(graphic courtesy of FReepathon)

171 posted on 05/08/2007 4:45:15 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: calcowgirl
*** Yes. I have a problem with it. I will quote Condor51 from the linked thread: ****
"I don't care if they are Israelis, Mexicans or Martians, but this dual nationality crap is UN AMERICAN. You cannot serve two masters. You are either an American Citizen loyal ONLY to the USA or you AIN'T - period, end, stop."

calcowgirl,
You can use that quote any time you want. That is my unequivocal position and should be of any American.

Furthermore, if some people can't agree with that, then they should get the hell OUT of the USA and move to the country of their choice pdq.

Or in the case of Martians ..... the space ship in on launch pad #3.

172 posted on 05/08/2007 5:03:33 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: calcowgirl

Questioning people’s loyalty is a murky thing.


173 posted on 05/08/2007 5:25:11 AM PDT by veronica
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To: bvw

Questioning people’s loyalty is antithetical to everything America stands for. As is denying any American a vote, wherever they live. So is squashing free speech.


174 posted on 05/08/2007 5:27:20 AM PDT by veronica
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To: bvw
Or of FDR supporting Britain during the period before December 7th, 1941 -- gee, that must have been tough for a staunch "pure loyalty" America Firster.

Inevitably, discussions such as these bring out, or are started by, Firster types. It's a convenient platform from which to pontificate about "loyalty" (wink wink). Nevermind that the original "Firsters" were wrong, that FDR didn't trust them to be part of the WWII effort (see Charles Lindbergh) and that they were utterly discredited and shamed.

175 posted on 05/08/2007 5:32:22 AM PDT by veronica
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To: SJackson

FYI...


176 posted on 05/08/2007 5:39:38 AM PDT by veronica
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To: calcowgirl

Pollard should have been executed.


177 posted on 05/08/2007 5:41:47 AM PDT by Badeye (Hiding the kooks in the biker bar won't help, Sally)
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To: veronica
It's certainly an issue for some anti-Rudys.

He's run by the endless war hopefuls from some middle east stinkhome populated by heretics.

He supported a pardon for Pollard, and he's hired the despicable neocon Ted Olson, Pollard's lawyer, as you know prompting comments about Barbara's after death reaction.

It's a shame all the viable Republican candidates are pro Israel and anti terror. Worse yet Republicans, like Dems, operate overseas, though I admit Israel is the only country mentioned in that regars.

What's needed is a R candidate who's anti Israel, pull the troops out now, with the stature of a Jimmy Carter.

Maybe one will arise, more likely third party.

178 posted on 05/08/2007 5:58:29 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: SJackson
What's needed is a R candidate who's anti Israel, pull the troops out now, with the stature of a Jimmy Carter.


179 posted on 05/08/2007 6:01:23 AM PDT by veronica
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To: bvw; Condor51
I question your intelligence. I question your spite. I question your hatreds. Who needs that kind of "loyal citizen", anyway?

You have no business questioning anyone when you are unable to answer the simplest of questions, instead responding with such hatefilled rhetoric.

Quoting the grand master klagon, Condor51. I notice he left off the top loyalty of all. Loyalty to our Creator.

I believe we were talking about citizenship and voting, not religion. "Grand master"... another cowardly slight, I assume? Really now, it's hard for any American loving citizen to disagree with Condor's statement:

"I don't care if they are Israelis, Mexicans or Martians, but this dual nationality crap is UN AMERICAN. You cannot serve two masters. You are either an American Citizen loyal ONLY to the USA or you AIN'T - period, end, stop."

What would Condor51 think of George Bush ...? Or of FDR supporting Britain ...?

Perhaps you should ping them if you are really interested in a response.

180 posted on 05/08/2007 8:39:17 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz
:-) Thank you! What a beautiful sight!

181 posted on 05/08/2007 8:41:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: gcruse
Whenever I feel bad for Pollard, I think of the USS Liberty until the sympathy goes away.

Good link and so true.

182 posted on 05/08/2007 8:43:40 AM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: Condor51
You can use that quote any time you want. That is my unequivocal position and should be of any American.

Thanks Condor--I just used it again. I had missed that thread when it was first posted but scanned it the other day when the article was referred to on this thread. I agree with you wholeheartedly (it ain't really rocket science!). I'm from California--home of a Dual-Citizen Gov. Schwarzenegger. We have seen first hand his many actions that seem to favor the UN or the EU more than California or the United States. I am also thankful the founders had the vision to exclude foreign-born citizens from becoming president.

183 posted on 05/08/2007 8:48:32 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: veronica
Questioning people’s loyalty is a murky thing.

No. It's insulting and in this case unfounded. And you still didn't answer the question.

184 posted on 05/08/2007 8:49:27 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SJackson

I’d appreciate it if you would do me a big favor. Would you, please?

Double check that text file you created from cutting and pasting all my FR posts.

You’ll see you made a slight error-——it’s not spelled endless war hopefuls-—it’s spelled Endless War Hopefuls.

I’m so afraid you might inadvertently be accused of “hate” or “animosity” toward this important voting bloc by referencing them in lower case.

And please pass the word around, would you when you pass around my posts.

Thanks. Appreciate it.


185 posted on 05/08/2007 10:13:24 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz
Absolutely, though they're posted not passed around.

Endless War Hopefuls

Same folks as the Middle East Heretics.

It's a legitimate and widely held position.


186 posted on 05/08/2007 11:05:50 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: bvw; calcowgirl
Okay sparky let's get some things clear.

  1. I'm talking about dual citizenship, dual voting rights and dual LOYALTIES, NOT Dubya hosting the Queen moron.

  2. Now, as to FDR. That criminal sob should be dug up, tried for treason, summarily shot, then tossed in a garbage dump. What he did was prior to 12-7-41 was ILLEGAL. And I ain't talking about Lend-Lease. FDR and the Drunk had secret communications where they both tried to figure ways to get the US into WWII. Then when do get attacked by Japan what does FDR do - he attacks Germany in North Africa. UTTERLY &^%&ing BRILLIANT Watson!!!

    Lastly - that %^$%ing pos FDR is solely responsible for the enslavement and DEATH of millions of Eastern Europeans when he 'gave' it to his buddy 'Uncle Joe' Stalin. Now who the ___ was he to 'give' Poland, Hungary, Romania, 1/2 of Germany, Czechoslovakia, etc, etc, etc. to the f**king Commies?

  3. Now back to Dual Citizenship and 'loyalties'.
    When Israel ans the Hezzies had their little war. Fox News interviewed this guy from Georgia who was going over to enlist in the Israeli Army. Pretty commendable, right? WRONG.

    The FoxNews babe asks him why he was doing this - going to fight for a foreign country. Well guy stats speaking (his Southern Drawl was thicker than molasses) and he says, "I was born and raised in Georgia - lived her all my life - but I'm an Israeli first".

    Got that, he was an 'Israeli First', not an American - but Israeli. the son of a bitch never left Georgia nd he was 'an Israeli'!

    (If I could have reached that puke through the TV there'd be nothing left of that *&%^ to 'enlist'.)

So there's your 'dual citizenship' and 'duel loyalties'. That low life bloodsucker had no problem running off to join the Israeli Army, but not the US Army to fight OUR ENEMIES..

ps: I got your America First Idiots right 'here' sh*thead. If you don't like America - get the fu+k out maggot.

187 posted on 05/08/2007 3:23:40 PM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Condor51
We have some brave young men in Georgia; that one is an example. We and Israel fight the same enemy, we should all be "Israeli" Firsters in that regard.

Another generation of heroes put it thusly: "Lafayette! We are here!". That was Pershing's Army. But even before that band of brothers, of heroes, was the Lafayette Escadrille. In a way, those American Lads put France first.

Heroes!

They knew which side they were on!

188 posted on 05/08/2007 4:46:51 PM PDT by bvw
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To: calcowgirl
QED. Your loathsome buddy has now flown HIS true colors. They are the green of spiteful spitting hate, and the yellow of cowardice. His post really says that all so much more clearly.

He is as American as any copperhead ever was. You've already used the term that describes such Americans. Traitors.

189 posted on 05/08/2007 4:53:30 PM PDT by bvw
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To: veronica

Well, Mr. Lindbergh did redeem himself by his heroic and stalwart actions as that war went on. See http://www.charleslindbergh.com/wwii/


190 posted on 05/08/2007 4:57:34 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

With all of that hate spewing from your keyboard, I hardly think you are in a posiiton to accuse others of such acts.

Your priorities are now understood and they are contrary to the well-being of United States citizens.

Jonathan Pollard was a traitor and deserves to rot in jail until death. End of story.


191 posted on 05/08/2007 5:20:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; Condor51

Marcus Tullius Cicero Roman Statesman Speech in the Roman Senate - 42 BC

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.


192 posted on 05/08/2007 5:47:33 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz

Great quote!


193 posted on 05/08/2007 5:57:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
The story is far from ended. Let it be known though -- I despise yellow-belly traitors to America like Condor51.

My priorities are life, liberty and the pursuit of the good. I know who our enemies are, and I know who our allies are -- at least to the extent a man can. There are always limits and hidden dangers. In these days though, doesn't take too much holding of the ship of truth's wheel to navigate the constant hazards in the seas of falsehood and delusion. These days the enemies are obvious. At least to many Americans and Freepers.

But a man who reaches back and damns FDR for taking on Germany -- that man is unhinged by the demons of his own racial hatreds -- and those kinds of hatreds and insanities are toxic to Americans and all our allies of Liberty.

Where is your scorn for that vile toxin and its bringer? Why is it absent, why are you kind to real traitors and traitorous attitudes?

Check yourself, lady.

The story goes on. America will survive its home-grown pests and spiritual typhoid carriers.

Free Mr. Pollard.

194 posted on 05/08/2007 6:29:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw; Condor51

You sure can twist things. I stand by my post.

BTW, it is courtesy to ping others to posts in which you mention them, let alone trash them as you are attempting to do.


195 posted on 05/08/2007 6:34:04 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

This is a public forum — all posts are open to all eyes. And no that “pinging” is not courtesy in some cases, most cases even. The more courteous thing is to let sleeping dogs lie, or frothing dogs to their own froth, and not be ringing the dinner bell for them.


196 posted on 05/08/2007 6:37:30 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

That may be your way.
To me, it is equivalent to stabbing in the back.


197 posted on 05/08/2007 6:55:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Is that so? I'd guess you are very learned in back-stabbing, so I bow to the expert.

Still, it's no courtesy. For I think you are absent any grace in honest courtesy. Honest courtesy comes from the open and caring heart.

198 posted on 05/08/2007 7:02:04 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

I have little compassion for traitors, murderers and other criminals.
Other than that, I am quite open and caring, particularly when it comes to my beloved U.S. of A.

As to all of the personal insults you have thrown my way, I suggest you look in a mirror.


199 posted on 05/08/2007 7:15:33 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
What about the US is beloved to such as you? Not our Ideals, nor the examples of the bravest. You hate the brave, and are ignorant of the ideals. A young man from Georgia goes to join an ally -- Israel -- to fight for the cause of freedom and you celebrate a cretin who most his vilely mocks that heroism. You'd spit on Lafayette's grave for the same reason, so can one suppose. You ally with misanthropes and whining klagons. Your idea of courtesy is to invite the rude to rudeness.

Yes, all in all, I can see why such as you are exceedingly upset that Jew Pollard might be freed.

200 posted on 05/09/2007 4:01:15 AM PDT by bvw
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