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GIULIANI URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY (1999, Jonathan Pollard)
Times Union | Sep 29, 1999 | Stewart M. Powell

Posted on 05/06/2007 11:57:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: Liz
So are you saying Rudy was there during 9-11? He reminds me of John Kerry telling us he served in Vietnam.
51 posted on 05/06/2007 2:08:44 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: Liz

“On 9/11 I announce as the 9/11 candidate. I would not even be here on 9/11 if 9/11 had not happened.

I own 9/11. 9/11 is my lucky number.

Even my dog is named 9/11. And my wife has 9/11 tattoed on her thigh.

I get up at 911 AM everyday and retire at 911 PM.

I only buy cars that get 9 to 11 miles to the gallon.

9/11 is the lottery number I play everyday.

I live on 911 Ninth Street at the corner of 11th Avenue.

I’m buying the 7/11 store chain and renaming it 9/11. 9/11 will be forever embedded in the memory of 9/11
post-America.

I shall make 9/11 a national holiday....that’s why I’m running.”

R O T F L M A O

I can’t breathe : )


52 posted on 05/06/2007 2:53:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Dead Corpse; Brad's Gramma; B4Ranch

Ping.......you gotta read this!!


53 posted on 05/06/2007 2:58:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: FrPR
I actually took a bit of issue with that remark as well, but found it to be an interesting article otherwise.
54 posted on 05/06/2007 2:59:52 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Screamname; Liz; All

“If that makes him “Amercias Mayor” then what does that make Ray Nagin?”

Has Nagin recovered all the new Cadillacs the cops stole out of the new car showroom??


55 posted on 05/06/2007 3:03:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: TommyDale; stephenjohnbanker
So are you saying Rudy was there during 9-11?.......reminds me of John Kerry telling us he served in Vietnam.

I hear 911 Rudy will wear his Ground Zero oxygen mask when he addresses the Repub convention------after all, soldier Kerry "saluted" the Dims.

56 posted on 05/06/2007 3:10:38 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Screamname
“If 911 makes Rudy “Amerca's Mayor” then what does that make Ray Nagin?” .................. Has Nagin recovered all the new Cadillacs the cops stole out of the new car showroom??

Really SJB, you are so intolerant and uncompassionate------you REALLY want Nagin to give up his showroom model powder blue Escalade, don't you?

57 posted on 05/06/2007 3:15:04 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz

Maybe we will see someone slip some laughing gas into his mask. Better yet, some Sodium Pentothal. Maybe he will tell the truth for once.


58 posted on 05/06/2007 3:24:01 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: calcowgirl
New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani urged President Clinton Tuesday to free convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard

Utterly insane. Giuliani is toast.

59 posted on 05/06/2007 3:25:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Liz

Maybe he SHOULD wear a mask, over his current mask : )


60 posted on 05/06/2007 3:31:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: TommyDale

LOL——well, laughing gas AND truth would be a change of pace.


61 posted on 05/06/2007 3:33:28 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz

“you REALLY want Nagin to give up his showroom model powder blue Escalade, don’t you?”

No, but I would pay a kings ransom to know where he stashed it : )


62 posted on 05/06/2007 3:35:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hmmm... one less reason to put up with idiots still trying to pass Rudy off as “conservative”.


63 posted on 05/06/2007 3:39:35 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00 'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'...

64 posted on 05/06/2007 3:41:36 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Dead Corpse

LOL!


65 posted on 05/06/2007 3:54:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

LOL!


66 posted on 05/06/2007 3:55:55 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Just say no to Brady Bunch Republicans.)
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To: Liz

“’The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles.”

Well, D U H........

Even stolen ones : )


67 posted on 05/06/2007 4:05:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: calcowgirl
Remember: All of those idiots who claim that the Rutard is "tough" because he dissed Arafat. Its NOT THAT DIFFICULT, indeed it is ADVISABLE to do so in the largest Jewish city in the world after Tel Aviv, especially when said community gave you your margin of victory over Dinkins.

That being said, I'm happy that he told Arafat to shove it. But to pretend that he was "brave" to do so in NEW YORK CITY is misleading.

68 posted on 05/06/2007 4:10:24 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: jedward

All of us folks out here who already know today that we will never vote Democrat,have to be realistic in our expectations in 08.Rudy did prosecute John Gotti,which in New York takes tremendous courage not to mention 9/11,when he was so close to danger on behalf of the citizens of his city.America can do much worse then Rudy(gore,obama,hitlery)I`ll settle for someone who is for Victory with no conditions in the only issue that really matters.What is wrong with support for an ally?Could anti-semitism be a basis for this attack?


69 posted on 05/06/2007 4:20:14 PM PDT by chrismich2610 (Where are the true Conservatives,before it is too late?)
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To: Liz; indylindy

Of course, Rudy’s gas after eating those burritos is no laughing matter.


70 posted on 05/06/2007 4:21:50 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: chrismich2610; calcowgirl

Prosecuting a mob boss when you’ve got the Bull and others flipping for the gov’t isn’t the least bit impressive to me. That’s not courage. As far as 9/11 goes, the people that would be the absolute best guage of Rudy’s courage and leadership or lack thereof would be the fireman of NYC. They have not spoken well at all of Rudy.

Dealing with your mindset takes courage. You dance very closely to insult. If you believe Rudy Giuliani is an “ally”, then you are on the wrong side of the battlefield. If you’re inferring that either myself, or the poster of the article is trying a anti-semitic tactic, then you’ve got problems far worse than I can help you with.


71 posted on 05/06/2007 4:55:53 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: TommyDale

LOL——nice way to put “Rooty’s full of it.”


72 posted on 05/06/2007 5:07:46 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: tsowellfan

LOL. What did Rudy’s ancestors know and when did they know it?

Sounds like the Bush Nazi gold story, only worse.


73 posted on 05/06/2007 5:09:43 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: sofaman; tsowellfan

I’m calling B.S. You’re (tsowellfan) trying to make a snide comment. I say you’re a Rudy supporting troll, probably a retread that didn’t survive the purge.

Seriously, no one could be that stupid.


74 posted on 05/06/2007 5:11:51 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: jedward

Who will you vote for if he is the nominee?You seem to have evaded that question,and were the firemens complaints mainly pre 9/11 union issues,not the fact that he was within hundrds of feet of the burning towers trying to lead in a situation most folks(mayor nagin) would stay far away from.I don`t believe you know much about city life,or the Mob in particular,who have an ability to threaten to kill everyone you know and love.The ally in question is Israel, why would a country who is fighting this same mortal enemy want to kill U.S.military,I think you maybe the one with the greater problems intellectualy.Good luck in your mindless endeavor of voting for a candidate who will either lose in the primary or cannot defeat the first enemy we must destroy the dems!


75 posted on 05/06/2007 5:12:13 PM PDT by chrismich2610 (Where are the true Conservatives,before it is too late?)
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To: streetpreacher

Actually Im waiting for Fred Thompson to get into the race. But, you can think whatever you want. It’s a free country.


76 posted on 05/06/2007 5:15:23 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: streetpreacher
I say you’re a Rudy supporting troll, probably a retread that didn’t survive the purge

Let's put it this way. I would only support Rudy (and it would be with my nose plugged) if he became the republican candidate against Hillary. There is only one man worse than Rudy and that's MCain. I would like to see Tancredo or Hunter become the next President but I doubt they would win the general election. I would, however, do my best to support them in everyway in the general election. So, Im sitting back and waiting for Fred Thompson.

That being said, I dont really care if you think Im a Rudy troll or not. Im not in FR to satisfy you and whoever it is that you support. I only hope that you are against Rudy because you are a Mcain supporter simply because I cannot stand the thought that someone like you would be on the same team as I.

It seems like you could have used the space to convince us to stand behind whoever it is that you support instead of attacking fellow Freepers and angering them to a point of NOT voting for your guy if he did win the primary. Seems counter productive, if you ask me.

In other words: Lighten up

77 posted on 05/06/2007 5:36:56 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: chrismich2610

“Who will you vote for if he is the nominee?”

What will you do if Godzilla comes over the hill and after you tomorrow? I’m not playing the what if game with you.

“You seem to have evaded that question.”

Funny that you mention that. It hasn’t been intentional, you’re just the first person to ask me since I’ve been on the forum. Good for you, I guess.

“I don`t believe you know much about city life,or the Mob in particular,who have an ability to threaten to kill everyone you know and love.”

Ok. I’m not going to try and influence your beliefs.

“The ally in question is Israel, why would a country who is fighting this same mortal enemy want to kill U.S.military,I think you maybe the one with the greater problems intellectualy.”

And your best defense for a spook that got snagged is to question an anti-semetic conspiracy. With all due respect, give me a break. Tag me with a 25 IQ, so you can lower your expectations of my intellect. It’ll be easier for both of us next time.

“Good luck in your mindless endeavor of voting for a candidate who will either lose in the primary or cannot defeat the first enemy we must destroy the dems!”

No comment needed. Good luck to you.


78 posted on 05/06/2007 5:39:25 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


79 posted on 05/06/2007 5:40:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: tsowellfan
I’ve been trying to connect Rudy with Mauro Giuliani who 1819 left Vienna, mainly for financial reasons: his property and bank accounts were confiscated to pay his debtors...Anybody got more info on this stuff?

Who gives a flying duck?

Did you embrace such nonsense when Garry Trudeau and black chopper types were dragging up tales from the last two centuries about the Bush clan and Skull & Bones?

When it comes to reasons why someone will or will not vote for Rudy, it shouldn't be based on ancient family history that doesn't have Shinola to do with today. If it does, you're more stupid than people who are simply ignorant.

80 posted on 05/06/2007 5:47:07 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: jedward

I like your tag “Mission ‘08 - Take back the House & Senate”. We really need to keep that in focus as well.

After seeing the results of the French election there is no reason why we cannot get a real conservative in the WH in 2008 and win those 2 houses back.

I was hoping Newt would jump into the race but Im tilting more towards Fred Thompson now.

I think the republicans would have a better chance in winning back the House and Senate IF whoever the minority leader in the Senate is replaced. It’s the first time that I’ve not been able to give you the name of the minority leader in over a decade. Same with the republican in the House. Poll your friends and family, they will not be able to tell you who they are either.

Whoever too Mehlman’s job needs to go too. Perhaps that’s where Newt would be most useful. I say Newt or Tom Delay should be working the headquarters of the GOP between now and 2008.

Nothing seems to be happening with what we got now.


81 posted on 05/06/2007 5:50:16 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan
I’m supporting David Rockerfeller as a write-in candidate. Rudy is just too far to the right for my tastes.
82 posted on 05/06/2007 5:55:23 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Who do you support?

And why?


83 posted on 05/06/2007 5:55:56 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: SpaceBar

What are you: one of those semi-antimatics??


84 posted on 05/06/2007 5:59:15 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: tsowellfan

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/a_three_sections_with_teasers/leadership.htm

McConnell...I’ve been pretty unhappy with him. Anything is possible. Everything takes work. I want both, but the Senate is extremely important to grab back IMO.

“Nothing seems to be happening with what we got now.”

I predict some pushing to be on the horizon. And we can all push as well as post. It’s our right and it’s our duty I believe!


85 posted on 05/06/2007 5:59:49 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: streetpreacher

LOL! Well, if Rudy got 8 years conservatism will have been redefined by the liberals and your David Rockerfeller will be considered the next Ronald Reagan in 2014. Scary but true.


86 posted on 05/06/2007 6:01:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl
Headline:

GIULIANI URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY! (1999, Jonathan Pollard)

So Long, Rudy!

You just lost my vote!

87 posted on 05/06/2007 6:05:55 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: L.N. Smithee
When it comes to reasons why someone will or will not vote for Rudy, it shouldn't be based on ancient family history

I agree. There's plenty of reasons not to vote for Rudy. One big reason is Fred Thompson.

88 posted on 05/06/2007 6:06:35 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: calcowgirl
Headline:

GIULIANI URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY! (1999, Jonathan Pollard)

So Long, Rudy!

You just lost my vote!

89 posted on 05/06/2007 6:08:31 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: tsowellfan
Who do you support? And why?

Nobody as yet, but definitely not Rudy. Don't believe me? Do a search of my posts.

I answered your question, so now answer mine. What does something a Giuliani family member did or didn't do almost two freaking centuries ago have to do with Rudy?

90 posted on 05/06/2007 6:09:57 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: L.N. Smithee
Honestly, I thinks it's more healthy to be posting that stuff on the Obamas and Hillarys past.

You're not going to see this guy seriousy digging up dirt on another republican candidate before an election is held. I mean, I would'nt want to put myslelf in a situation where I end up having to advocate for the same guy I attacked because he is running against a Clinton.

I dont hate Rudy. I do have a problem with his stance on guns and not fond of his abortion stance either. He's definately not one of my top choices.

If it were a choice between Rudy and Hillary or Obama. Rudy's got my vote. Cant say that I'd be overly excited to go out and passionately try to get him voters. Because of that, I think it would be a political problem for the GOP if he did win the primary.

To answer your question, Sometimes it's better to exploit absurdity by being absurb.

91 posted on 05/06/2007 6:24:43 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: chrismich2610; stephenjohnbanker
Rudy did prosecute John Gotti,which in New York takes tremendous courage

He did prosecute some mobsters; I don't believe Gotti was among them.

I`ll settle for someone who is for Victory with no conditions in the only issue that really matters.

What issue is that? And is Rudy the only candidate that holds the "for Victory" position you hold?

What is wrong with support for an ally? Could anti-semitism be a basis for this attack?

... [speechless]

92 posted on 05/06/2007 7:02:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: monkapotamus

LOL....awesome!!!!


93 posted on 05/06/2007 7:06:19 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: Clemenza
What exposed Giuliani as a fraud in the Arafat case was that Giuliani had actually honored Irish Republican Army spokesman Gerry Adams at an official New York City function just a few weeks earlier.

"Tough on terrorists," my @ss. If Arafat had been Irish instead of Palestinian, he'd have gotten a massage -- and more -- from Giuliani.

94 posted on 05/06/2007 7:13:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: chrismich2610

Rudy Giuliani never prosecuted John Gotti. Giuliani was a prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, while Gotti was prosecuted in the Brooklyn District.


95 posted on 05/06/2007 7:15:55 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child

Andrew J. Maloney I believe. Thanks for the clarification.


96 posted on 05/06/2007 7:44:17 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl

I guess our borders don’t matter when it comes to Rudy either : )


97 posted on 05/06/2007 7:55:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; jedward

Rudy matters to Rudy. Beyond that, I’m not sure.

FYI, in case you’re wondering why I pinged you to that, I goofed. It was supposed to be jedward, given his discussion with poster. Sorry ‘bout that!


98 posted on 05/06/2007 8:16:33 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

By listening to the things that some say, it’s very easy to know how they think and whether it’s even worth the time for discussion. I’ve been known to lead a horse to water and even dunk its head in it, but hey, if he’s willing to dehydrate at will, there’s not much one can do :)


99 posted on 05/06/2007 8:28:15 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: calcowgirl

Ping me anytime. You are one of my favorites. Even by accident!


100 posted on 05/06/2007 8:32:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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