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SARKOZY WIN FUELS ANXIETY AND ANGER IN VOLATILE PARIS SUBURBS
The Tocqueville Connection ^ | 6 May 2007 | staff

Posted on 05/06/2007 10:30:22 PM PDT by Cincinna

LA COURNEUEVE, France, May 6, 2007 (AFP) - As news of rightwinger Nocolas Sarkozy's presidential victory flashed up on the television in the cafe, Gnyma Cisse buried her head in her hands in a mixture of frustration and fury.

"I'm disgusted," said Cisse, 23, who had gathered to watch the election coverage in Le Metro cafe which caters to a largely immigrant and first generation French-born clientelle in the La Courneuve suburb of Paris.

Cisse, of Sengalese origin, called her sister-in-law who lives here without French nationality.

"Pack your bags. The planes are already on standby," she said, alluding to Sarkozy's tough immigration policy and his decision as interior minister to step up the expulsion of illegal immigrants.

"There's nothing good about this," Meziane Ourad, an unemployed 50-year-old, said of the election result as he smoked one in a seemingly endless chain of cigarettes.

"France is entering uncharted waters. This is going to be an oppressive society," said Ourad, who brought his family to France from Algeria 20 years ago.

His only hope, he said, was that legislative elections in June would produce a National Assembly controlled by a grouping other than Sarkozy's ruling Union for a Popular Movement (UMP) and therefore provide a counterpoint to the powerful executive office.

"Otherwise, we've got five terrible years ahead," he said.

Karim, a 28-year-old fishmonger of Algerian and Moroccan parentage, said he could not understand what he described as Sarkozy's "hatred" of foreigners.

"Sarkozy says he likes the France that gets up early. Well, when he gets up early in the morning, he'll find that France is made up of black and Arabs," he said.

Like other high-immigrant Parisian suburbs, La Courneueve witnessed weeks of rioting in 2005 by angry residents who complained of being excluded from the French mainstream.

"I voted Segolene!" a group of young women of African origin chanted in unison, displaying their loyalty to the defeated presidential candidate, Socialist Segolene Royal.

"I really like her. She's not a racist," said Assetou, 19. "God knows I hope she'll be president one day."

Several locals predicted that the 2005 riots would revisist La Courneuve.

"With Sarkozy, the riots will be permanent," said Farid, 25, a delivery man.

Mohamed Mechmache, the head of AC le Feu, a grassroots suburban association set up in the wake of the violence 18 months ago ago, told reporters after Sarkozy's victory that France "had failed to understand the message" of 2005.

"There are those who live well, the rich people, and those who will continue to suffer a lot," Mechmache said. "The disparity is enormous."


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"With Sarkozy, the riots will be permanent," said Farid, 25, a delivery man."

Kind of says it all, n'est ce pas?

1 posted on 05/06/2007 10:30:23 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: nctexan; MassachusettsGOP; paudio; ronnie raygun; Minette; WOSG; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...

President-elect Sarkozy sure has his work cut out for him.

I am keeping him in my prayers. He needs all the help he can get; he sure isn’t going to get it from these naysayers.


2 posted on 05/06/2007 10:32:24 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Cincinna

Ah, France... where you can be a rioting “youth” until you’re forty, and then you can retire.


3 posted on 05/06/2007 10:32:32 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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Freakin’ French Pu$$ies. I must have seen a thousand photos of Royal with her arms up in the air with her palms skyward. What the hell does that mean? I think the body english meant that she thought she was a “gift” to France. Also, she has lost three elections now. Who the hell is running her campaigns, Bob Frum?????????


4 posted on 05/06/2007 10:33:21 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: everyone

“Anxiety and anger” are beautiful things — if the right people have them.

Consider all the “anxiety and anger” the people quoted in this story probably cause the (real) French ...


5 posted on 05/06/2007 10:37:39 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Cincinna
They should:


6 posted on 05/06/2007 10:38:39 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: freeplancer

The particular people quoted in the story may or may not be “pu$$ies,” but they’d not French. They’re ungrateful parasites who live in France.


7 posted on 05/06/2007 10:38:41 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Cincinna

Yeah : )


8 posted on 05/06/2007 10:41:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Cincinna

Yes, France...not happy with election results so go distroy others property and endanger others in order to be taken seriously and respected...the radical logic is amazing isn’t it?


9 posted on 05/06/2007 10:46:16 PM PDT by TheBethsterNH (...in Northern Massachusetts, formerly known as New Hampshire.)
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To: California Patriot

I think the results indicate most of France is through with the ungrateful parasites.


10 posted on 05/06/2007 10:48:11 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: Cincinna
Mohamed Mechmache, the head of AC le Feu, a grassroots suburban association set up in the wake of the violence 18 months ago ago, told reporters after Sarkozy's victory that France "had failed to understand the message" of 2005.

I think this guy's got it backwards. Sarkozy won precisely because of the 2005 message. Amazing how some people can't see what staring them right in the face.

11 posted on 05/06/2007 10:49:47 PM PDT by econjack
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To: JennysCool

Probably true.


12 posted on 05/06/2007 10:52:18 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: econjack

Exactly.


13 posted on 05/06/2007 10:52:32 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Cincinna
"There's nothing good about this," Meziane Ourad, an unemployed 50-year-old, said of the election result as he smoked one in a seemingly endless chain of cigarettes.

There is a real "winner."

14 posted on 05/06/2007 10:56:59 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Cincinna
"With Sarkozy, the riots will be permanent," said Farid, 25, a delivery man."

Kind of says it all, n'est ce pas?

Is France France any longer?

For that matter, is the U.S.A. the U.S.A. any longer?

Balkan-style racial/ethnic unrest creates permanent riots, MayDay-style. Hey, it's almost Cinco de Mayo, too.

15 posted on 05/06/2007 10:57:24 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Cincinna

16 posted on 05/06/2007 11:02:19 PM PDT by Capitalism2003 (http://www.LP.org/issues/platform_all.shtml)
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To: econjack
I think this guy's got it backwards. Sarkozy won precisely because of the 2005 message. Amazing how some people can't see what staring them right in the face.

Similar to how many Republican politicians, including the President, refuse to see how the American people feel about the demonstrations by the illegal invaders and the lack of border security.

17 posted on 05/06/2007 11:10:38 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Cincinna

I really want to thank you for all of the work you did, in order to educate this forum on the French Election. This, IMHO, was an important election for America as well. Hats off to you Cincinna! Thank you for your hard work and for your excellant analysis!


18 posted on 05/06/2007 11:14:43 PM PDT by Grenada
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To: Cincinna

Wow, so the ultra liberal won instead of the outright socialist? Some choice.

I was actually hoping the socialist would win so France could go down the tubes that much faster.


19 posted on 05/06/2007 11:18:13 PM PDT by Dragonspirit (I like my taxes low, my terrorists dead, and my women pretty.)
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Would this be new ‘Anxiety and Anger’ or the same old
‘Anxiety and Anger’ ????

Burning 10000 cars was not exactly a sign of ‘happy times’.

Maybe they are worried that this time they wont be allowed to get away with the crap the last government allowed.

20 posted on 05/06/2007 11:19:02 PM PDT by wodinoneeye
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To: Cincinna

uppity immigrants worldwide ...take note....
The planes are waiting


21 posted on 05/06/2007 11:24:02 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
Just as the youth of the world had "The Whole World is Watching", we need placards that say so simple, and to the point...

"The Planes Are Waiting"

22 posted on 05/06/2007 11:30:25 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Cincinna

It’s all Sarkozy’s fault.


23 posted on 05/06/2007 11:41:14 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: Cincinna

Thank you, Cincinna, for your coverage of the French Election. I have yet to read an article where the bulk of those interviewed are pro-Sarkozy. He convincingly won the election. Those who voted for him are not hiding, yet reporters seem unable to find them. They might have interesting things to say about what the want for France economically, politically, and in terms of EU membership/US relations. I am now well informed that 45% of the French electorate think Sarkozy is a step backwards. Where are the 55% who thought otherwise? The bias is tiresome.


24 posted on 05/06/2007 11:44:34 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Northern Alliance; All
It's George Bush's fault!

This is the actual map of the areas Sarko won :


25 posted on 05/06/2007 11:46:37 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Cincinna

Bouger TTT


26 posted on 05/07/2007 12:14:13 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: Cincinna
"Pack your bags. The planes are already on standby," she said, alluding to Sarkozy's tough immigration policy and his decision as interior minister to step up the expulsion of illegal immigrants.

I wish the election of a conservative would encourage this kind of exodus from our country too. If you're illegal, you're an uninvited guest and should go home.

27 posted on 05/07/2007 12:37:31 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Every Thread a BYJ Thread (http://www.byj.co.kr/)!)
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To: Bernard Marx

Diversity is nothing more than division. Especially when admixed with a good dose of multicultural pandering.

When faced with the choice of shaping up or being shipped out, these numskulls choose to riot. Just a pathetic existence. If I immigrate to a society, I’m going to do the most I can to integrate, to become a part of that place. Or I wouldn’t have come there in the first place. And if my lifestyle is incompatible with segments of that society, there’s no reason for me to be there.

The sense of entitlement in some of these people knows no end.


28 posted on 05/07/2007 1:00:21 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Cincinna

Watched the morning news on BBC and they described the riots in France as ‘minor’. Here in Paris, is was the Batille area which had the car burning and mobs, but only a couple hundred, so by French standards, minor. I saw two burned cars in that area the day before when I went to visit the Picasso Museum, so it is not that uncommon. Kind of a national pasttime, car burning. I would think the Socialist/communist enviro wackos would be against this because it worsens global warming (sic), but I guess not.


29 posted on 05/07/2007 1:06:18 AM PDT by milwguy
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To: Cincinna

I hope Sarkozy doesn’t end-up like Theo Van Gogh. He’d best have some very serious security personnel.


30 posted on 05/07/2007 1:20:35 AM PDT by TwilightDog (("The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast"--Oscar Wilde))
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To: CheyennePress

Years ago, my French cousin told me, “When a French student reads that Charles Martel won the Battle of Tours, preventing the Moors from conquering France, if he looks around him, he’s not going to believe it!”


31 posted on 05/07/2007 1:36:17 AM PDT by Judges Gone Wild
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To: Cincinna
Cisse, of Sengalese origin, called her sister-in-law who lives here without French nationality.

"Pack your bags. The planes are already on standby," she said, alluding to Sarkozy's tough immigration policy and his decision as interior minister to step up the expulsion of illegal immigrants.

I'm praying that Sarkosy has the balls to expel these illegals, especially the Muslim ones

32 posted on 05/07/2007 2:00:18 AM PDT by dennisw ("Libertarianism is applied autism" - Steve Sailer)
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To: dennisw

But the LAUGHTER CAUSED by A KABILIAN_FRENCH police officer who UTTERS ORDERS “SORTEZ! LE MAINS DANS L’AIR” to the CASSEURS and throwing to THEM INNOMINABLE INSULTS in MAGHREB VERNACULAR...
IS something that still makes me laugh!
LOL LOL

:-))
(seen Yesterday on FRANCE24 satelite chain)


33 posted on 05/07/2007 2:27:29 AM PDT by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: Cincinna
Sarkozy is a ”rightwinger.”

But no description of the Yutes from Senegal, Algeria or Morocco who are threatening violence.

34 posted on 05/07/2007 2:49:01 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Cincinna

Napoleon I solved a similar crisis by firing cannons into the rioters; a “whiff of grapeshot”.


35 posted on 05/07/2007 2:59:33 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: California Patriot

Look who they interview . A 23 year old do nothing and a 50 year old who is not from France and not employed. Figures


36 posted on 05/07/2007 3:05:27 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: bajabaja

global MSM bias...


37 posted on 05/07/2007 3:08:33 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Cincinna

Only four words into the article, the bias becomes crystal clear.


38 posted on 05/07/2007 3:12:12 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: Cincinna
Royal instigated leftist riots:

Leftist pro-Royal rioters run through tear gas after the election of Nicolas Sarkozy, France's newly-elected president, in Paris, May 6, 2007. Sarkozy defeated Socialist Party candidate Segolene Royal on Sunday. REUTERS/Eric Gaillard (FRANCE)

Radical leftists clash with a riot police officer on the Place de la Bastille in Paris, Sunday, May 6th, 2007. Riot police fired tear gas into a crowd gathered at the Place de la Bastille following conservative Nicolas Sarkozy's presidential election victory Sunday and dispersed another angry group of Royal supporters in Lyon. (AP Photo/Michel Spingler)

Riot police fight with leftiwng demonstrators after the election of Nicolas Sarkozy, France's newly-elected in Paris, May 6th, 2007. Sarkozy defeated Socialist Party candidate Segolene Royal. REUTERS/Eric Gaillard (FRANCE)

France wins - the radical Left losses!

icolas Sarkozy, France's newly-elected President is congratulated by his wife Cecilia in front of supporters on the Concorde square in Paris, May 6th, 2007. Sarkozy defeated Socialist Party candidate Segolene Royal on Sunday. REUTERS/Pascal Rossignol (FRANCE)

39 posted on 05/07/2007 3:18:33 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Cincinna

“he’ll find that France is made up of black and Arabs”

This appears to be France’s big problem.


40 posted on 05/07/2007 3:25:18 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Cincinna
"There are those who live well, the rich people, and those who will continue to suffer a lot," Mechmache said. "The disparity is enormous

That doesn't say much for the current system.

41 posted on 05/07/2007 3:27:20 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: freeplancer
"Freakin’ French Pu$$ies. I must have seen a thousand photos of Royal with her arms up in the air with her palms skyward. What the hell does that mean? I think the body english meant that she thought she was a “gift” to France..." I think she is imitating the look of "Marie" the famous statue that represents French spirit.
42 posted on 05/07/2007 3:28:53 AM PDT by ABN 505
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To: Cincinna

I keep reading about these riots and now after a FREE election, an election by the people. Yet, they still riot because they didn’t get their way! Did they ever stop and think that the majority doesn’t want “their way.” They are like children pitching a temper tantrum, but in this case the rest of the country told them;

“NO, You can’t have it your way.” Now they need to respond like responsible citizens, not children throwing a deadly tantrum!


43 posted on 05/07/2007 3:29:19 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: Cincinna

Yesterday, according to police officials, around 10,000 persons organized protests against Sarkozy throughout the country, mostly in large towns and cities. Most of these protests, like the one I saw in my hometown around 10 PM, were peaceful - and very short-lived for lack of volunteers.

Where the protests were not peaceful, the French National Police said it was not because of suburbs hoodlums but because of political groups from the extreme-left, who were rallying behind Anarchist banners. Given the fact the Extreme Left parties have portrayed sarkozy as the new Hitler, I guess these guys portrayed themselves s the heroic Resistance members - until they came face-to-face and nose-to-truncheon with the riot police.

All in all, 270 persons have been arrested last night, half of them in Paris. As far as “mischief nights” are concerned, the night has been pretty quiet.


44 posted on 05/07/2007 3:32:20 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Cincinna

Remember that the socialist encouraged her supporters to riot in the streets if she didn’t win. They, like all socialists, slavishly followed her orders.


45 posted on 05/07/2007 3:39:42 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Cincinna

“I really like her. She’s not a racist,” said Assetou, 19. “God knows I hope she’ll be president one day.”
-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—

The socialists don’t consider her loss a defeat... simply a challenge for the future.

Beware, FRANCE


46 posted on 05/07/2007 3:40:36 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: EBH

The riots need to result in rioter’s deaths.

That would help put some reality into their faces.

This rubber bullets and fire hoses junk ain’t cutting it any more.


47 posted on 05/07/2007 3:42:49 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: EBH

The unwashed and unemployed masses are all pissed off ..Too bad ..


48 posted on 05/07/2007 3:46:20 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: AFPhys

Assetou, 19..yea at 19 she knows whats what in the world ..Spare me .


49 posted on 05/07/2007 3:56:24 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
"There's nothing good about this," Meziane Ourad, an unemployed 50-year-old, said of the election result as he smoked one in a seemingly endless chain of cigarettes.

...as Mssr Ourad's keen mind was already busy juxtaposing the concepts of...job...50...couch...seemingly endless chain theory...

50 posted on 05/07/2007 4:05:48 AM PDT by Sender ("America is at that awkward stage..." - Claire Wolfe)
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