All we are saying...
Is give alchemy a chance!
(repeat)
Posted on 05/07/2007 6:52:03 PM PDT by Between the Lines
I myself hold zero supernatural or religious beliefs, I really don't care if somebody chooses something else. Just as long as it is a choice. Science class should be about science. Philosophy or theology classes, church or whatever people choose, all those places are for specific things as well. put them in the appropriate class is all I ask. IF someone gets bent because they teach about evolution in a science class. Well? I don't have much pity on them. If someone gets bent because they teach about Islam, Buddhism or Christianity in a theology class. Too bad. I have seen people here fight like cats and dogs over evolution and creation. It is generally merely an excercise in debate at best as either the heart or the mind were won long ago. As long as she was not arguing for democrats. If you overlook and sleep with something like that, I've no mercy on you. ;)
Actually, science IS philosophy. The modern term "science" apparently obscures that connection for some people. The old term was "natural philosophy", signifying the love of knowledge about nature.
Holding "zero supernatural beliefs", whatever that means, is a philosophical position.
“Actually, science IS philosophy. The modern term ‘science’ apparently obscures that connection for some people. The old term was ‘natural philosophy’”
Google: “etymological fallacy”
“As long as she was not arguing for democrats. If you overlook and sleep with something like that, I’ve no mercy on you.”
Heh. The way I figured it, better to plunder the virtue of hot young female democrats and wait to marry a conservative virgin with a lot latent kink still waiting to be discovered and enjoyed ;-)
Besides, there are ... umm ... certain “things” I’d have a hot young female democrat do and knowing that they’re democrats while I’m having them do those “things” somehow makes them all the more pleasurable :=))
This has nothing to do with etymology. Word usage is what rules.
I know. I was thinking more on the lines of IDers wanting to ‘give alchemy a chance.’
“Word usage is what rules”
In that case we can delete your reference to ‘natural philosophy’, seeing as historical use isn’t relevant.
And your claim is a complete howler because people don’t use the words ‘science’ and ‘philosophy’ interchangeably.
Nobody describes Maxwell’s equations, for example, as an example of philosophy. Further examples are left as an (easy) exercise for the reader.
Meaning, history isn't relevant, either?
You’re finally catching on.
In that case, nothing is relevant. After all, eventually everything is history. Ask James Clerk Maxwell.
“In that case, nothing is relevant”
Non sequitur.
As you pointed out, current meaning is a function of current use, and it’s been about 200 years since it was common for people to use the words “science” and “natural philosophy” interchangeably.
“Holding “zero supernatural beliefs”, whatever that means, is a philosophical position.”
Call it what you wish.
I think it is pretty clear the meaning.
I will not debate it. That is not my point.
Respect of differing views in the appropriate venues, allowing people to be exposed to all that they wish to be exposed to, and excercising free choice to choose those views without being berated for it is my point.
Hardly.
LOL
Too bad high schoolers are ill equipped to critically analyze evolution. They don't have the scientific background. Anything puportedly supporting 'creationism' isn't science and should not be in that class. It is doing a disservice to the students and dumbing down their education.
Well 200 years predates Darwin so it isn't surprising there are people that want to turn science back to those days. Pesky facts and the modern scientific method just get in the way of evangelism.
I do science for a living and fequently have to tell the powers to be that they are wrong. But it's done with facts, not hyperbole.
That comment certainly demonstrates "critical thinking" or the lack thereof!
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