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VIDEO : Iraq linked with 9/11 and the anthrax attacks
Video ^ | 05/09/07 | drzz

Posted on 05/09/2007 11:45:04 AM PDT by drzz

the 9/11 plot with testimonies of experts and pictures of the terrorists. How they looked like Westerners (watch their original clothes) and worked with Iraq to do 9/11. How they were trained in Salman Pak, Iraq.

And how Ahmed Al Haznawi was treated in Holy Cross Hospital in June 2001 for sknin infection by anthrax. The first anthrax attacks happened in September 18 2001, with a letter which stated: "Death to America, Allah is great."

Experts link Iraq before both 9/11 and the anthrax attacks which remained unsolved.

Watch the video. The enemy is stronger than we thought.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 11; 911; alqaeda; anthrax; arabia; atta; binladin; bush; cia; democrats; foreign; gop; iran; iraq; israel; jihad; mossad; plot; saddam; september; terrorism; wot

1 posted on 05/09/2007 11:46:00 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

I think this is a good effort. I’ve believed for a long time that conservatives needed to make a compelling documentary. I favor calling it “The Great Iraq Deception”. The true conspiracy is in how there seems to be an effort to totally disregard all the evidence especially Salman Pak. There are thousands of documents that were seized that show Saddam was very active in training terrorists and planing attacks abroad but it seems our government and the Bush Administration is complicit in the cover up something I don’t understand.

The Democrat memo planning how to under cut the war effort is indicative that there is a concerted political effort to color the Iraq War as lost and to cast doubt on everything leading up to Iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102258,00.html


2 posted on 05/09/2007 12:01:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Great assertions require great empirical proof.)
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To: veritas

ping


3 posted on 05/09/2007 12:03:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Maelstorm

The revisionism made by the Democrats is outstanding.

When Defense Secretary William Cohen of the Clinton administration explained the bombings of Sudan, he said that Bin Laden was working closely with Iraq.

And now, hop!, the links and Saddam’s involvment becomes a matter of Bush 41’s people (who don’t want to admit that they let a major threat in power in 1991) and Clinton’s Democrats.

Iraq has let clues of its involvment in EACH of the terror attacks that struck US interests in a decade. In EACH of these attacks, the terrorists had links with Iraq intelligence services.

In 2000, Al Zawhiri, Al Qaeda number 2, met Saddam’s men in Baghdad.

Watch the other video:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1sx7x_saddams-secrets


4 posted on 05/09/2007 12:06:54 PM PDT by drzz
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To: Maelstorm

Thanks for the Info....Bookmark for more indepth review


5 posted on 05/09/2007 12:13:26 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: drzz

A very well-focused, detailed effort. I hope it makes an impact.


6 posted on 05/09/2007 12:25:27 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: drzz

The suggestion that the experts agree with Dr. Spertzel has no basis.

There is a great difference of opinion as to the sophistication of the anthrax.

His is one view. (search Dr. Doug Beecher for the contrary view expressed by an FBI scientist).

The hijacker with the anthrax lesion had just come from Kandahar where the Al Qaeda anthrax laboratory was located. That is where Suskind reports “extremely virulent anthrax” was found at a residence in Autumn 2003, upon Hambali’s harsh interrogation.

Much is known about who helped Al Qaeda with its anthrax. Rauf Ahmad detained in December 2001. Yazid Sufaat captured in December 2001. Abdul Qadoos Khan and KSM, arrested in March 2003. Yazid Sufaat’s assistants Barq and Wahdan who were captured in 2003. One was Egyptian and one was Sudanese.

Tenet in his book says that he believes in 2006 they conclusively learned that the fellow in Prague was not Atta.

Tenet says Al Qaeda’s anthrax planning was done in parallel with its 9/11 planning. Sufaat briefed Hambali and wrapped things up in Kandahar, Tenet says, in June 2001. He says the anthrax program was strictly compartmentalized at the highest level.

Prior to that, he said, the CIA could not confirm the allegation of the Prague meeting.

In a May 2006 show, Michael Scheuer said that humint and sigint confirmed experimentation with anthrax at Ansar al-Islam but there has been no second report along those lines.

In short, while there is lots of evidence pointing to Al Qaeda as responsible for the anthrax mailings, including documentary evidence, there is no evidence that Iraq is responsible. For example, I link the correspondence between the scientist Ayman had infiltrate UK’s biodefense establishment.

http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com

The Iraqi, an American citizen, who worked in the same building as the former heads of the Russian (former First Deputy Ken Alibek) and US programs (former USAMRIID and Ames researcher Bailey) was a supporter of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and the Saudi sheik al-Hawali. He was not a supporter of Saddam. He was sentenced to life plus 70 years on other grounds — for exhorting young men to go abroad and defend their faith.

Nice music though.

But pointing to Iraq without evidence only serves to undermine the public understanding of the massive evidence pointing to Al Qaeda.

The clothes worn by the hijackers is not evidence at all.

http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com


7 posted on 05/09/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: ZacandPook

Welcome to Free Republic.


8 posted on 05/09/2007 12:35:57 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Defeatocrat party left me.)
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To: ZacandPook

“Tenet in his book says that he believes in 2006 they conclusively learned that the fellow in Prague was not Atta.”

They say the guy at the April 9, 2001 meeting was not Atta. He should have been “a confusion with name” although the Czech operative identified Atta by his face after 9/11, not by his name.

And Atta went to Prague in March 1999, June 2000, April 9 2001, April 22, 2001, he even arrived in the United States in the Summer of 2001 from Prague.

Do you know why the CIA is fighting with the Pentagon about Saddam-al-Qaeda links ? Because it would show its own failure.

The fact the US government says he wasn’t able to identify a biological attack that cost the lived of 5 people and costs more than 1 billions to American taxpayers is pure joke.

Americans would not admit such incomptence in another case.

And if there is something to learn about CIA director Tenet after the release of his book, that’s he is a good liar on everything.

What makes me laugh is that every American feel something is wrong with this story, every American understands that the liberal denial about Saddam-Al-Quaeda links is pure politics, but poeple turn around the main subject with the fear to even speak about it.

Laurie Mylroie demonstrated Iraq was involved in the bombings of 1993. She was backed by FBI officials. Still the US government official story denies it. One of the bomber, Yasin, fled in Iraq. The other, Ramzi Yousef, who arrived in the US with an Iraqi passport, was arrested several months later.

Then 8 years later, planes crashed against buildings, against the same World Trade Center, planned by Yousef’s uncle, Khlaid Sheikh Mohamed.

Mohamed recently admitted he planned the 1993 bombings.

Gad it ? 1993 and 2001 bombing were masterminded by the same man.

And if links with Iraqi involvement were demonstrated by Mylroie and accepted by FBI and justice officials who investigated, it is more than likely that Iraq is also behind the 9/11 and the anthrax attack.

But by admitting that the CIA and the US establishment would agree that they did not their jobs during 10 years and didn’t answer to Iraqi attacks.

The US agencies were not weak on 9/11. They were on the run. A disaster.

This is not surprise North Korea obtained nukes, bin Laden created his base and international terrorism won strength during Clinton’s mandates.

When you don’t want to fight the enemy, you lose.

And if you lose, the first thing you do is to send Sandy Berger “clean” the National Archives and you begin re-writing the story of Saddam’s regime, before and after 9/11.

This is where we are today.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 12:50:49 PM PDT by drzz
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To: Maelstorm

I Still have many questions about 911 Athrax Attack.

Forget about Salman Pak and WMD...that’s old hash.

Think about how the Iraqi Intelligence working with al Queda. It’s like dealing with spiders hatching!

I like this by Ross Getman website...http://mysite.verizon.net/vze43v8m/index.html It’s pretty scary what could of happen.

I also like http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/ I like it when these two guys go at it on FR.

Interesting debates.

Here me out...I’m might be off the wall. I really went outside the box. I am a amateur...please excuse me.

Remember Sec. Defense Cohen 1997 Sunday talk show holding up a five pound bag of sugar? He said similar amount of Anthrax would kill 300,000 people in the DC area if release into the air by terrorist. http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/misc1.html

Our service members had to get Anthrax vaccinations in 1998 because it was a real threat.

Anthrax Timeline: 1998 - An Iraqi terrorist network, being maintained in the US, is intended to conduct acts of bio-terrorism and the report finished with BW agents by Iraqi women who smuggle agent-filled vials into the US within their bodies. 1998 - The British government issued a warning to all ports about an Iraqi attempt to bring large quantities of the deadly anthrax germ into Britain (and other countries) inside cosmetic bottles, cigarette lighters, and perfume sprays, disguised as duty-free goods. http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraq_anthrax.pdf

1998 - Iraqi Women smuggling Anthrax into US http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/558108/posts

Interesting here Larry Wayne Harris recounts an Iraqi scientist named Miriam Arif. She claimed she smuggled Anthrax into the United States. This is after the 93 WTC attack. Why are Iraqi scientist still doing in the United States?

Ex-CIA Microbiologist Reveals Iraqi Plot to Attack US With Biowarfare by 2002 [Please read] Video Interview | 1997 | Larry Wayne Harris http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/529549/posts Larry Harris is a fraud. Arrest of Larry Harry http://www.lasvegassun.com/dossier/crime/bio/harris.html http://www.legalcasedocs.com/120/250/263.html http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/text/1998/feb/19/506856398.html

William Leavitt Jr http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX/ACT-5650

U.N. downplays Iraq’s arrest of germ expert; U.S. uncertain Hindawi March 24, 1998

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/24/iraq.arrest.update/index.html

Saddam Regime arrest Bio-Expert of Nassir Hindawi from fleeing Iraq. Was the man going to talk to inspectors? Why was Abu Nidal assassinated by Iraqi Intelligence in August 2002. Was he going to defect? http://www.salon.com/news/1998/03/25news.html

Iraq and al Queda Anthrax Connection Chez say city is a hotbed of terrorist and mafia http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/562876/posts

Boca Raton, Florida Suspects live in apartment where Newspaper facility got infected including Atta. Anthrax used in NY and Nevada. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2001/10/mil-011015-39c927ed.htm

Poisons for Assassinations Circa 1988? THE HEAD OF IRAQI INTELLIGENCE SERVICE IS KAMAL ((HUSAYN)); THE IRAQIS ARE USING POISONS FOR ASSASSINATIONS OF POLITICAL OPPONENTS. THEY HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY FOND OF THALLIUM FOR WHICH THERE IS NO KNOWN ANTIDOTE OR TREATMENT. THE POISON IS GIVEN IN FOOD AND DEATH IS VERY PAINFUL. THEY ALSO HAVE TOXINS WHICH ARE USED FOR ASSASSINATION PURPOSES. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/gulflink/95071933.txt

WTC 93 - Cyninade laced bomb. Iraqi born business man Ihsan Barbouti shipped fruit pits to Iraq to be made into Cyninade. http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraq_anthrax.pdf

CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL TERRORISM: AN INCREASING THREAT By Dany Shoham 1995- The Iraqis choose another horrifying toxicant for conducting political assassinations—thallium—an extremely poisonous metal mixed by Iraqis agents with food or drink of the selected victims. A nerve agent has also been effectively used by the Iraqis in a clandestine poisoning of food and perhaps in fostering outbreaks of typhoid and malaria within Kurdish populations. Iraqi agents were trained in using chemical and biological agents against civilian targets at a special school near East Berlin and at training camps in the Middle East. [xlvi] http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/meria/chem-bio-terror.html

December 1995 Moayad Hassan Naji al-Janabi, an engineer in the Iraqi nuclear program, is shot dead in Amman, Jordan while seeking asylum from the United States or the United Kingdom. —Jon Swain, “Mystery of Iraqi Nuclear Expert,” Sunday Times, 2 April 1995, cited in . Jordan gives sanctuary to Saddam’s defective son in law. Tighten border. Iraqi troops mass up at Kuwait and Saudi Border in 1995 Defector 1994 – USNEWS article 2001 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/terror/articles/hamza011222.htm

Sudanese Civil War – Iraq moved WMD to Sudan for Storage 1997 Sudan has recently begun to use ballistic missiles against innocent civilians and other humanitarian sites in central and southern Sudan; it is also being investigated for using chemical or biological weapons in its bombing campaign. The Sudanese People’s Liberation Army (SPLA), the largest opposition force to the government of Sudan, reported that the government was producing uranium in the Kai Khong area of Al Wahda province near the Blue Nile and exporting it to China and Iran. Allegations that the government of Sudan used Iraqi-manufactured mustard gas artillery shells and nerve agents against the SPLA and civilian populations in southern Sudan, or that the government allowed Iraqis or Iranians to use WMD on Sudanese in Sudan, should be investigated with the utmost diligence and the perpetrators should be held accountable. The government of Sudan reportedly has acquired large stockpiles of Iraqi mustard gas/blister agent in violation of its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention. In 1997, Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction to Sudan for storage. http://www.survivorsrightsinternational.org/sri_news/SRI-Khar.pdf

Woosley protects Iraqis from being deported. Not double agents. Dr. treated poison victims. http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/07/980706-iraq-cia.htm

1998 : (IRAQI INTELLIGENCE AGENT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT SADDAM HUSSEIN’S REGIME’S FRONT COMPANIES AND A NUCLEAR DEAL BETWEEN IRAQ AND SOUTH AFRICA IS ARRESTED, TORTURED AND FINALLY INJECTED WITH THALLIUM BEFORE HE ESCAPES IRAQ) A former Iraqi intelligence officer responsible for setting up front companies for illegal overseas purchases claims that Iraq has arranged to purchase nuclear weapons material (including uranium) from Armscor, South Africa’s state armaments directorate. During the Iran-Iraq war Armscor supplied Iraq with advanced 155mm howitzers. These sales are handled through a front company in Jordan. For five years he personally ran a procurement network based in Dubai for the Special Security Organization, the elite of Saddam’s vast intelligence apparatus, in charge of overseas procurement and responsible for hiding key equipment and material for Saddam’s weapons programs. He was arrested by the regime in 1998, viciously tortured, given an injection of thalium and dumped on the street. Bleeding from his nose, mouth and stomach, he managed to escape to Northern Iraq and ultimately to Turkey, where human-rights workers treat him successfully for thallium poisoning Thalium poisoning a favorite method of the regime for executing its enemies, because it causes a slow, painful death.— via “Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History, “ Various Sources , 02-20-03 , by PsyOp 12 posted on 10/07/2004 9:16:14 PM PDT by piasa http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/1238581/posts


10 posted on 05/09/2007 12:51:45 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: drzz

Thinking about the Ft. Dix situation.


11 posted on 05/09/2007 1:00:12 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Milligan

Keep up the good work drzz!

Another thing Saddam wanted to assassinate his opponents.

Kay ISG Report
Saddam’s Clandestine Labs

Iraqi Intelligence Service Undeclared Research on Poisons and Toxins for Assassination

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/isg-final-report_vol3_cw-anx-a.htm

I sent this to ikez78....just to let you know.


12 posted on 05/09/2007 1:04:03 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

Good stuff thanks.


13 posted on 05/09/2007 1:40:25 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Global Warming=A Return to Eden)
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To: drzz

“Do you know why the CIA is fighting with the Pentagon about Saddam-al-Qaeda links ? Because it would show its own failure.”

As an example of CIA’s and FBI’s failure, there is the matter of the two hijackers who flew in to Los Angeles but the FBI did not locate them even though the system was “blinking red”.

Another example of the FBI’s failure was that the senior DOJ folks didn’t realize that Moussaoui’s known connection with Ibn Khattab was enough to get them access under FISA to his laptop.

These examples of failures are explained by Tenet.

It was especially crazy for Condi Rice to say that no one ever imagined that planes would be flown into landmarks, when the same had been planned with a plane flying into the Eiffel Tower and even Bojinka had involved the possible scenario of a small explosive-laden plane into Langley.

So there was lots of blame to go around. But given that the anthrax lab techs working prior to 9/11 have been captured, there is no reason to rely on the fact that the hijackers knew how to put pants on as evidence relating to anthrax. Instead, the datum of note is that Tenet for the first time listed 9/11 planner Ramzi Bin Alshibh as having a CBRN role. Previously, we knew only that KSM took over from Atef upon his death of the anthrax cell led by Sufaat and Hambali, and assisted by Barq and Wahdan. But given that the isotopes indicate that the anthrax was grown in the US, there is a very real unresolved issue of whether there were US-based supporters of Al Qaeda that picked up where Sufaat left off in June 2001 when he briefed Hambali and Ayman Zawahiri.

LM’s theory hinged on KSM being an Iraqi agent impersonating KSM. When KSM turned out to be KSM, I’m not clear on what part of her theory survived.

The more nuanced theory is whether or not an Iraqi intelligence agent (named Wael, I believe) had infilitrated Ansar Al-Islam and if so what decision-making role or tactical role he had. It was very dramatic for Michael Scheuer, head of the CIA’s OBL unit, to say that he was certain they were experimenting with anthrax there in 2002 and he urged the President to bomb them (but the Administration was focused instead on invasion).

As far as the suppression of information, there is lots being suppressed for the normal investigative reasons, according to one postal inspector, but no cover-up. It becomes a bit more problematic when someone working closely with OBL’s religious mentor had a top security clearance and had access to the Center for Biodefense facilities and the American Type Culture Collection. By an email, ATCC does not deny it had Ames in its patent repository (as distinguished from its online catalog).

I agree that the connections between AQ and Iraq warrant close examination — such as Ayman Zawahiri’s trip to Baghdad (I believe it was for the son’s birthday in 1998, rather than in 2000). Any Iraqi assistance on technical aspects could be extremely low-key and under the radar.

But given that no one has even noticed that Ali Timimi had access to the Center for Biodefense and ATCC facilities (and had a security clearance), it seems that should be a key line of inquiry. Occam’s Razor and all. The Washington Post reported on this line of thought by the FBI in October 2006 in an article “Hardball Tactics in an Era of Threats.”

You write:

“The fact the US government says he wasn’t able to identify a biological attack that cost the lived of 5 people and costs more than 1 billions to American taxpayers is pure joke.”

The AG says that the FBI Director Mueller expects “some sort of resolution” in the “relatively near future.”

It’s surprising that reporter had confirmed or debunked the report by an Afghan governor Sherzai that the Taliban minister Hanif had packets of anthrax and planned to mail them to government officials — the report was in January.

My own personal view is that the capture of al-Hadi, Ayman Zawahiri’s chief aide at one point, upon his attempt to return to his home country Iraq late last year, has permitted a breakthrough in Amerithrax. Although Al Qaeda’s anthrax program was highly compartmentalized, he had interaction with both Ayman and OBL, and the Weekly Standard referred to him as Ayman’s “caretaker” at one point. So maybe he has answers even if KSM and Hambali didn’t. He was a longtime jihadist in Afghanistan and had been a major in Saddam’s army.

But, as I said, there is no evidence of Saddam’s involvement in anthrax and lots of information bearing on where there know-how came from, to include documentary evidence (such as the uploaded correspondence between Ayman Zawahiri and a scientist he had on a mission to obtain pathogenic anthrax

The Defense Intelligence Agency gave me the documents along with 100 pages from Ayman’s anthrax planning documents. The correspondence is uploaded in the section: “I successfully achieved the targets.”

http:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com


14 posted on 05/09/2007 2:16:30 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: drzz
Experts link Iraq before both 9/11 and the anthrax attacks which remained unsolved.

"Experts" also link the anthrax attacks to the Bush administration, to al Qaeda, to Russia, to Israel, to the CIA, to at least a DOZEN Americans who have been associated with anthrax in some way, and there's probably an "expert" with perfect credentials somewhere who believes that aliens from outer space sent the anthrax.

The one thing we should have all learned from discussions about the anthrax attacks is that most so-called "experts" don't concern themselves with facts; they begin with a belief, and, whenever necessary, they twist and distort the facts to fit that belief. Otherwise they just state their beliefs and ignore the facts altogether.

That would certainly be true of any "expert" who still believes Iraq was behind the anthrax attacks -- or al Qaeda. The facts say such a belief is just plain ridiculous.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

15 posted on 05/09/2007 2:26:07 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: drzz

Bookmarked for future reference


16 posted on 05/09/2007 2:30:38 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: ZacandPook

Don’t blame the CIA and FBI.
We had to deal with Gorelick’s Wall.
That’s why they failed.

IT’S THE WALL!

If the Democrats take the WH...they will put that wall right back up.

We can not treat terrorism as a law enforcement problem.


17 posted on 05/09/2007 2:52:15 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

In a different thread today, Ed says he reported some guy to the FBI. This is the profile of the guy:

He watches Bill OReilly on the Fox News Channel.

Divorced.

Small child with visitation rights with the child.

Used the child to address the envelopes and to write the letters.

Perhaps Mr. O’Reilly could call out to the guy tonight and tell him to stand down or else we’re going to make his kid clean the erasers after school.

Analysis instead is best organized around a consideration of the Means, Motive, Modus Operandi and Opportunity of the crime.

I. Anthrax and the Vanguards of Conquest
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/

This is a chronologically-ordered summary. There has been a steady accumulation of evidence supporting an AQ theory, as over the months and years, new evidence of AQ’s anthrax capability evolved.

II. Means: Al Qaeda’s Biochem Program Codenamed Yogurt
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#Zabadi

This is based on documentary evidence and interrogations of defendants at the Return of the Albanians trial in 1999 in Cairo. You won’t find any memos written by fans of Bill O’Reilly planning on sending an alarm — just memos between the folks involved in the plan to use weaponized anthrax against US targets in retaliation for the rendering of EIJ leaders.

a. The 1999 Announcement of Zawahiri’s Quest to Weaponize Anthrax
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#1999Announcement

AQ/Ayman has announced its intention — announced its motive. So we can cross “motive” off the list. That’s a no-brainer. Attorney Al Zayat, the blind sheik’s attorney, has said it was to retaliate against the rendering of former EIJ leaders.

b. Zawahiri’s April/May 1999 Emails To Al Qaeda’s Military Commander Atef
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#ZawahirisemailstoAtef

Atef was killed in November 2001. Cross him off the list of operatives available to participate in a follow-up attack.

c. “I successfully achieved the targets”: Pakistan Scientist Rauf Ahmad’s Assistance in 1999 and 2000
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#Mid-1999%20Documents

The Pakistan ISI hasn’t cooperated with the FBI on this since early 2003. I named the guy in 2002 along with Sufaat but Ed dismissed the suggestion both when I first pointed them out in 2002 and still today.

d. “You are dead! Bang”: Ayman’s Plan To Use Charities And Universities As Cover
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#PlantoUseCharitiesandUniversities

No flowery language like Ed thinks is required before it can be Al Qaeda in “You are dead! Bang” among the anthrax planning documents found in Afghanistan at the scene of a brainstorming seminar. Indeed, no flowery language when Atta came on the intercom and said “WE HAVE SOME PLANES.”

e. Al Qaeda’s 2001 Threat To Use Mailed Anthrax In Connection With Jailed EIJ Leader And Former Bin Laden Farm Manager Mahmoud Mahjoub
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#January2001threat

It was this that prompted the February 2001 PDB to President Bush about the CBRN efforts and the September 2001 report on the threat of mailed anthrax.
The White House knew of the anthrax threat not because of some sinister plot but because they knew there was anthrax planning being done in parallel with the other planned specular attacks.

f. Taliban’s Interest In The Anthrax Vaccine Laboratory
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#TalibanInterestinVaccineLab

The interest of Taliban ministers is especially interesting given the claim by an Afghan governor that a Taliban minister was captured recently with packets of anthrax intended for mailing to government officials. The same guy says the Pakistan ISI is protecting Mullah Omar.

g. Hambali, Anthrax Lab Tech Yazid Sufaat, and Ayman’s Anthrax Bomb Maker
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#HambaliandSufaat

It can’t be that the FBI did not know of Sufaat’s central role until 2003 as the President claims. The FBI didn’t interview him until November 2002 (Malaysia was not cooperating and Mueller needed to press them personally) and then only spent 30 minutes asking questions. But Sufaat’s role was obvious in 2002. Perhaps they just mean that he began to talk more freely once Hambali was talking, Barq and Wahdan (Sufaat’s assistants) were captured in 2003 etc.

h. March 2003 Seizure of Anthrax Production Documents On KSM’s Laptop and Arrest of Bacteriologist Dr. Abdul Qudus Khan
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#KSMandAbdulQuduusKhan

I guess at some point Ed gave up arguing that AQ did not have the means. So you can cross “means” off the list.

i. 2003 Capture of Hambali and Sufaat’s Assistants, and the Seizure of Extremely Virulent Anthrax
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxb.html#ExtremelyVirulent

j. 2007 Capture of Taliban Spokesman With Anthrax Packets Intended For Mailing To Government Officials
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxb.html#TalibanSpokesmanPacketsofAnthrax

This report has neither been confirmed nor debunked. Fascinating that no reporter doesn’t make it a point to do so.

III. Motive: Reason Senators Leahy and Daschle and the Media Were Targeted

a. The Anthrax Letters: “Written In Language You Can Understand”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Motive

b. Profile of an Angry Man: Ayman
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#ProfileofAnAngry

Ed’s theory is really no different than Barbara Rosenberg’s theory — who he harshly criticizes. He just fills in the detail with someone other than Dr. Hatfill. But all his arguments against her theory applies equally as to his own theory. A patriot sounding the alarm is simply not a motive to commit murder.

c. FBI: “Think 9/11.” “Think Oklahoma City.”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Profile

Hm... This quote by FBI Director Mueller about who the FBI thinks is responsible says it all. How does Ed understand “Think 9/11” to mean “a patriot sound an alarm”? or call an emergency parent-teacher conference?

d. Significance of Mailing Dates: Camp David Accord and Sadat’s Assassination
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Mailing%20Dates

AQ doesn’t usually plan attacks based on dates. But Ayman/Vanguards of Conquest (the military wing of the EIJ) do plan their messages around dates and anniversaries. Indeed, Ayman has taken to expressly explaining the anniversary.

e. “Leahy Law” and Appropriations to Military and Security Units
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Leahy%20Law

Leahy thinks AQ did it. See quote about plane that invaded Capitol airspace. He wasn’t concerned that some patriot was back sounding another alarm.

f. Zawahiri’s View of the “Lies” of the Secular Media
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Secular%20Media

g. “Release Him”: Retaliation for Detention of the Blind Sheikh and Other Detainees
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#RetaliationforDetention

Most of the terrorist matters have involved folks inspired by the Blind Sheik’s detention.

IV. Modus Operandi: “Pouring Musk on Barren Lands”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#PouringMuskonBarrenLand

The question of tactics has been the subject of sharp debate within the movement and this fact could be helpful in profilng. The perp would favor the view that felt bound by restrictions on the conduct of warfare.

a. Related 1996 Letter Bombs to DC and New York Papers and Symbolic Targets
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#EarlierWTCBombs

This is highly probative as to modus operandi.

b. Targeted Assassination of Individuals in Symbolic Positions
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#TargetedAssassination

Ed used to argue that this was not Ayman’s modus operandi. He likely has abandoned in the face of the facts showing otherwise. So we can scratch off this argument as to “modus operandi”

c. Requirement Under Laws of Jihad of Warning Before Using Nonconventional Weapons
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#RequirementofWarning

This is the one Ed simply does not get and he never discusses the merits — such as the book the first EIJ leader is coming out, as noticed in today’s press. That guy’s lawyer is Al-Zayat, the one who explained in March 1999 (it was March 1999, not 1998, as I said earlier in the thread) who said that Ayman would use anthrax against US targets to retaliation for the rendering of EIJ leaders. And so once again the motive has already been announced in advance.

d. Continuing Practice of Sending Poisonous Letters as Threats
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#ContinuingPractice

One using hydrazine sent during a trial said “Set our brothers free. Bastards.” No flowery Arabic phrasing there, Ed.

e. Use of Code:

Jennifer Lopez Letter and Atta’s Jenny Code
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#JennyCode

TrebleRebel once posted a brilliant picture relating to Ramzi’s code for 9/11 which is even more relevant now (along with his Jenny code) now that Ramzi is said by Tenet to be a CBRN player. Ed says the letters show it was not AQ when actually the letters show exactly the opposite.

“School”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#GreendaleSchoolCode

Given that “school” was Ayman’s code for EIJ, the anthrax mailer is either EIJ or an intel insider (or both).

“In the Hearts of Green Birds” (Inside Green Birds)
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#HeartsofGreenBirds

Go ahead. Click to see a blown up picture of the stamp. Now that Ramzi, Tenet says, was CBRN, his explanation of the “Green Birds”symbolism is even more significant. You won’t find a big picture of this baby on Ed’s website.

KSM and Clouds (Al-Sahab)
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#KSMandClouds

Oh, did I tell you the first anthrax letter had “clouds” pictured on it and Ayman’s and KSM’s group is called Sahab — meaning “Clouds”?

Allusion to Atta and Genomic Sequencing of the Ames Strain
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#Double-liningofA’sandT’s

Hmmm... any OBL supporter read GENOME TECHNOLOGY at his trial like we read NEWSWEEK?

f. Summer 2001 Inquiries About Cropdusters and Helicopters

Given the strict compartmentalization, even someone making inquiries for this purpose would be generally left in the dark.

g. KSM’s Plan to Poison A Reservoir
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#KSM’sReservoirPlot

KSM likely would only target an embassy (for example, with cyanide). He’d go to hell if he poisoned a water supply serving children (and based on his statement before the tribunal he seems to ascribe to that view). So his direction to Majid Khan to research the subject perhaps related to poisoning localized water supplies, such as a supply serving a military base.

h. Poisoned Penpal: The Murder of Chechen Rebel Leader Ibn Khattab
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#IbnKhattab

If senior FBI officials had understood the importance of Ibn Khattab, they would have move forwarded with a FISA warrant of Moussaoui’s computer. Elzahabi came from Ibn Khattab in mid-August 2001. If his laptop had been accessed, perhaps 9/11 would have been avoided.

V. Opportunity: Tracking Potential Al Qaeda or Egyptian Islamic Jihad or Islamic Group Supporters

a. Fall 2001 Greenlight of Biological Attack By US-Based Operatives
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#AQFall2001ClaimReUSBasedBio

This claim of responsibility is fun. It claims that the greenlighted attack will be by operatives with access to US government and intelligence information. It was seized years ago but not released until 2006. Zawahiri discusses a different document at the same West Point website in his new video. You won’t find Ed linking the document on his website because he wants to deny that there was any claim of responsibility.

b. Know Not Just Your Enemy, But Who He Knew
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#KnowNotJustYourEnemy

One by one, they’ve been arrested.

c. Egyptian Scientist In The Library Researching Contaminants in Drinking Water
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxdu.html#AttaandAlMarabh

Serious secrecy on this issue, folks.

d. Kandahar souvenir: Hijacker Ahmed’s Blackened Leg Lesion
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxdu.html#leglesion

Ed has never mentioned the fact that Ahmed had just come from Kandahar where the extremely virulent anthrax was found.

e. Astonishing Aafia
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxdu.html#AstonishingAafia

An AUSA says Aafia would participate in an anthrax attack if asked.

f. Hoax Letters That May Fly As Real Thing
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#hoaxletters

Any bad guys in St. Petersburg area at the time? (Answer: Yes, to include Adnan El-Shukrijumah, for whom a BOLO was issued along with Aafia).

g. Access to the Ames Strain
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#AmesStrain

Of 16 labs in the US known to have Ames, authorities narrowed it genetically to 4 labs.

h. Made in the USA: The Cell Culture
AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY BEYOND THIS POINT

VI. The Sheiks and the Bioweaponeers
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#SheikandtheBioweaponeers


18 posted on 05/09/2007 3:11:31 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: EdLake

I saw your website. What is your occupation...may I ask?
Are you a Microbiologist or in Forensic Medicine?

These recent articles about the Anthrax Mystery is so interesting.


19 posted on 05/09/2007 3:18:12 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: drzz

placemarker


20 posted on 05/09/2007 3:36:08 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ZacandPook

My...my...egos competing.

“Used the child to address the envelopes and to write the letters.”

I’ve seen adults write like that especially if they’re not familiar with a Latin based language.

Instead writing a arabic from right to left...you have to organize your brain to write left to right. It’s not your native language.

I have a Paki acquaintance. He arrived in the country when he was 16 years old. He lived in this country for over twenty years. When he writes he has too slow down. His block letters look very meticulous. His handwriting doesn’t look kiddish but he has a tendency to bunch letters together.

But imagine what your handwriting would looks like if you just came from Saudi Arabia and try to write English? You would be inexperience making those letters.

Just an observation.


21 posted on 05/09/2007 3:45:05 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: ZacandPook

That handwriting is too neat for a elementary student. Children still have trouble with coordination with their hands and they labor to put letter together but I’m not a handwriting analysis expert.

http://www.fbi.gov/anthrax/amerithrax.htm


22 posted on 05/09/2007 4:11:29 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

I think the suggestion that a person would enlist the help of a young child is silly for the simple reason it is unnecessary and presents a huge risk.

“Mommy, Mommy... Daddy said a bad word.... he said “Death to Israel”” “Mommy, what does Daddy mean?”

Heck, you’ve heard of cell security. Well Rule #1 in the Murderous Terrorist Handbook is: “Don’t in any way risk involving your ex-wife.”

Tenet says the Al Qaeda anthrax program was highly compartmentalized at the highest level (e.g., Ayman and Atef).

Tenet’s book is vetted by the CIA. But from news reports and leaks we have zero reason to think he’s changed his previously expressed view (see Woodward) that Al Qaeda was responsible, possibly with the help of a rogue Russian or Iraqi scientist.

Ed incredibly, without so much as reading the book, takes quotes like this from Tenet and deduces that he no longer thinks Al Qaeda is responsible.

  ”Al-Qa’ida spared no effort in its attempt to obtain biological weapons. In 1999, al-Zawahiri had recruited another scientist, Pakistani national Rauf Ahmad, to set up a small lab in Khandahar, Afghanistan, to house the biological weapons effort. In December 2001, a sharp WMD analyst at CIA found the initial lead on which we would pull and, ultimately, unravel the al-Qa’ida anthrax networks. We were able to identify Rauf Ahmad from letters he had written to Ayman al-Zawahiri. Later, we uncovered Sufaat’s central role in the program. We located Rauf Ahmad’s lab in Afghanistan. We identified the building in Khandahar where Sufaat claimed he isolated anthrax. We mounted operations that resulted in the arrests and detentions of anthrax operatives in several countries.

      ”The most startling revelation from this intelligence success story was that the anthrax program had been developed in parallel to 9/11 planning.  As best as we could determine, al-Zawahiri’s project had been wrapped up in the summer of 2001, when the al-Qaida deputy, along with Hambali, were briefed over a week by Sufaat on the progress he had made to isolate anthrax.   The entire operation had been managed at the top of al-Qai’da with strict compartmentalization.  Having completed this phase of his work, Sufaat fled Afghanistan in December 2001 and was captured by authorities trying to sneak back into Malaysia. Rauf Ahmad was detained by Pakistani authorities in December 2001.  Our hope was that these and our many other actions had neutralized the anthrax threat, at least temporarily.”  

     —Former CIA Director George Tenet explained in his May 2007 book Center of the Storm

Heck, even the guy Ed suspects of stealing the anthrax tells me he thinks Al Qaeda is responsible.


23 posted on 05/09/2007 4:27:33 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: Milligan
What is your occupation...may I ask?

I'm a retired systems analyst. Analyzing facts and data is what I think I do best - after designing computer systems. I have a lot of various business experience, including one patent for a bi-directional hydraulic flow meter. After I retired, I turned to writing books and screenplays, and I published a book about the anthrax attacks in 1995, which makes me a "book publisher". I write a weekly feature for an Australian celebrity magazine. And I'm world famous as "The Fake Detective", an expert on detecting fake photographs.

In my spare time I'm a big movie buff.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

24 posted on 05/09/2007 4:58:28 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: ZacandPook

Police say the best tips are given by ex-girlfriends/wives who have a score to settle with their boyfriend who done them wrong.

My personal feeling Iraqi Intelligence were sprawled all around the world and I’m sure they had contact with al Queda one way another.

If they were not working together they were singing two part harmony. The thing is we are suppose to forget what happen during the Clinton Administration and Saddam’s WMD.

Even today Richard Clark still stands behind his attack on the al-Shifa Pharmaceutical Factory in Sudan in 1998.
http://www.infomanage.com/africa/northern/sudan/barlet61.htm

Everytime US/UK forces attacked Iraq during the Sanction years...we got a revenge attacks from al Queda.

Revenge killings

First WTC Bombing Feb 26, 1993 anniversary of Saddam’s defeat in the 1st Gulf War on the Highway of Death Feb 26 & 27, 1991.

GHW Bush “Line in the Sand Speech” Feburary 27, 1991.

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/papers/1991/91022702.html

Khobar Towers Terrorist bombing June 25, 1996: a revenge attack for June 27, 1993 attack on Iraqi Intelligence HQ in Iraq. Clinton ordered airstrikes against Iraqi Intelligence who tried to assassinate Bush Sr when he visited Kuwait. Also note, Khobar Towers housed USAF Squadron who patrolled the Southern NFZ in Iraq.

Saddam’s comments..

Khobar Towers Bombing, June 25, 1996
“[The U.S.] should send more coffins to Saudi Arabia, because no one can guess what the future has in store.”
Saddam Hussein, Iraqi Radio, June 27, 1996

http://www.usembassy.it/file2002_10/alia/a2101819.htm

U.S. Embassy Bombings in Nairobi and Tanzania in East Africa, August 7, 1998 was bombed by al Queda.

This was the eighth anniversary of our involvement in Desert Shield or our presents in Arab lands according to OBL. On Aug 7, 1990 our USAF arrives in Saudia Arabia Air Base to counter attack Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait.

Revenge killings. When Desert Fox commenced in December 17, 1998 British tourist were murdered in Yemen a couple of weeks later by al Queda trained operatives. It was warning to Blair not to participate in Clinton’s bombing raid on Iraq.

Here’s a article from a British paper.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=/archive/1999/01/05/wyem05.html

Attack on U.S.S. Cole, October 12, 2000 killed 17 sailors and injuring 39 others. The US Navy was building up a naval base in Yemen to support NFZ-Operation Southern Watch in Iraq. OBL ordered the strike because infidels are not suppose to be in Arab lands and harrassing poor ole’ Saddam.

The terrorist tried to attack a Navy Ship while in port a few days early but it failed. I wonder if they were Commerating Sadat’s assassination?

Sept 11, 2001 WTC Attack was the anniversary of GWH Bush’s “New World Order Speech” on Sept 11, 1990 telling Saddam to leave Kuwait ASAP.

GHW Bush Sept 11, 1990 “New World Order Speech” telling Saddam to leave Kuwait ASAP.

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/papers/1990/90091101.html

Al Shifa Pharmaceutical Factory

http://cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/sudlinks.htm

Timothy Noah
http://www.slate.com/id/2098102/

US Treasuary and Docket
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/docs/idris-docket-ddc-99cv472.html

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=fed&navby=docket&no=035098

US Docket
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/docs/el-shifa-docket-cfc-00cv443.html

http://www.insightful.com/products/infact/911/page/123/33.html#HL

And I like to read ikez78 and jveritas articles too. Ross Getman is my next favorite.

Too bad we can’t put on a documentary special for FoxNews or an independent company. This is interesting stuff!!!!!


25 posted on 05/09/2007 5:08:12 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Reddy

ditto


26 posted on 05/09/2007 6:10:21 PM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: drzz
Thanks for the post.

For me the money line is:
“I believe 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by graduates of Salman Pak.”

27 posted on 05/09/2007 8:49:08 PM PDT by ChessExpert
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To: Milligan

Just notes for myself.

Saddam shot at planes flying over Iraq. The US and Britain took it upon themselves to invade Iraq’s air space. Both were firing on anything that moved across the ground in Iraq whenever they felt like it. Yes there certainly is recorded verified data on this. What did you expect Hussein would do? Let them keep on doing it and do nothing.”

US and UK were enforcing the UN approved No-Fly-Zones to keep Saddam from killing his own citizens.

” History of Iraqi No-Fly Zones
“Operation Southern Watch: Southern No-Fly Zone established in 1992 in response to Iraqi attacks against civilians in southern Iraq (in violation of U.N. Security Council Resolution 688). It is supported by coalition members operating under the control of the U.S. Central Command.
Southern NFZ expanded from 32nd to 33rd parallel in 1996 in response to further aggressive military action against the Shi’a population (further violation of UN 688).
Operation Northern Watch: Northern No-Fly Zone established in northern Iraq, north of the 36th parallel, in January 1997 as a follow-on to Operation Provide Comfort in northern Iraq. All coalition members operate under the control of the United States European Command.”

http://www.ccny.cuny.edu/library/Divisions/Government/Iraqbib.html#NFZones

“...There was no UN approval to attack Iraq as also required by the US constitution to follow international agreements. This made what W Bush did illegal.”

But Saddam did violate UN Resolution 688. By the way Saddam broke every resolution in the UN and even corrupted the organization!

What did you expect Bush would do? Let Saddam keep violating UN Resolutions, committ democide against Iraqi citizens, corrupt the UN Oil for Food Program and do nothing?

Why did he have the no fly zones?

“On August 31, 1996, elements of the Iraqi Army attacked and captured the PUK held town of Irbil in the Kurdish autonomous region of northern Iraq. This attack was led by an Iraqi Republican Guard Mechanized infantry division with the support of regular army troops. This action alarmed the United States and coalition forces in the region. Baghdad threatened Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf partners if they assisted the United States in any retaliation, Iraqi air defense forces also launched surface-to-air missiles against USAF fighter aircraft flying in support of Operation Northern Watch and Operation Southern Watch. In response to the attack on Irbil, US CENTCOM assessed an increase threat to American interests and quickly moved to bolster its ability to protect vital national interests on the Arabian peninsula. Along with the National Command Authority, CENTCOM began to develop plans for a military response.

The attack was a significant escalation of an ongoing struggle between PUK and KDP Kurdish factions for control of the autonomous region on the north. The Iraqi Baath Party had oppressed the population of the north and a million Kurds fled to safe havens in Turkey following Iraq’s defeat in the Gulf War. This lead to the United Nations resolutions and intensive international calls for humanitarian assistance and at the same time the Iraqi regime continued to oppress the northern population. American efforts to mediate a political settlement between the Kurdish factions reflect a commitment to Iraqi territorial integrity and continuance as a viable state. Iraqi military intervention violated United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, which prohibits Iraqi repression of the Kurds of the north, and the Marsh Arabs of the south. By mobilizing and deploying military forces, the Iraqi regime demonstrated both the capability and the intent to use force to advance its own agenda. Choosing to do so just as the UN was prepared to implement UNSCR 986 confirmed Saddam Hussein’s priorities: control, repression, and readiness to use force. Hussein’s actions confirmed a disregard for the suffering of the Iraqi people and a new willingness to use overwhelming military force to continue the Iraqi regime’s oppression of their own people. This willingness increased the threat of aggression against allied forces enforcing the UN resolutions and international relief workers delivering humanitarian support.

To prevent Iraq’s offensive capabilities in the south and in preparation for possible follow-on operations, the NCA directed an immediate military response. In consultation with coalition partners, CENTCOM evaluated alternative responses from among those available in the region. Against a requirement to send a clear signal of international condemnation for the latest violation of UN resolutions, the Command planned and executed Operation Desert Strike.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Strike


28 posted on 05/10/2007 4:27:15 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

Notes...

96 OBL Text
http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf980830.htm

GWI
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-view?m=4685837&mbx=inbox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death
July 30, 96 Clinton said he wants the senate to finalize the passing anti-terrorism bill.

Agree to S1894

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=104&session=2&vote=00199

Senate activities
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_104_2.htm

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d104:SN01894:

Restoration of Iraq 98
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440028/posts

98 Indictment of OBL
http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html

98 OBL Fatwa
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html


29 posted on 05/10/2007 4:39:39 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: drzz

After the intro portion I can’t stand the way the letters zap to the page one at a time making the lines shift. Drives my eyes crazy. Makes an otherwise good synopsis unwatchable.


30 posted on 05/10/2007 4:45:10 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

On Iraq-Al Qaeda issue:

“Tenet’s Slam Dunk Support for Dick Cheney,” Washington Post, May 8, 2007
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2007/05/tenets_slam_dunk_support_for_d.html?nav=rss_blog


31 posted on 05/10/2007 9:27:09 AM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: Milligan
I saw your website. What is your occupation...may I ask? Are you a Microbiologist or in Forensic Medicine?

Maybe I should just have pointed to the full-page article about me that was printed in Time magazine. It's here: www.anthraxinvestigation.com/Time-02.jpg

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

32 posted on 05/10/2007 10:10:31 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: All

Interesting read about the Sanction Times.

“...While President Clinton managed to keep the Iraq issue out of the 1996 elections and thereby enhance his reelection chances, Saddam Hussein quickly picked up on Clinton’s very poorly camouflaged acquiescence in the despot’s brutal suppression of the Kurds in northern Iraq. This greatly encouraged Hussein in his continuing endeavor to thwart, outmanuever, circumvent, and erode the determination and strength of the U.S.A. and its allies. With his expectations of future victories boosted, Hussein soon began a series of challenges to the system of U.N. sanctions, restrictions, and inspections imposed on his regime to prevent it from developing, producing, and stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. Hussein’s increasing resistance to the U.N. WMD program and its implementation came to a head in January, 1998, when he expelled the U.S. members of UNSCOM, the U.N. weapons inspection team.”

Read More

http://www.proconservative.net/WarAmericaP10l.shtml


33 posted on 05/10/2007 1:46:33 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: EdLake; Milligan

Milligan!

No, don’t be fooled by Ed’s good looks and the fact that his theory that a 1st grader wrote the letters made TIME. That was a human interest piece — News of the Weird. (Plus the image on the computer is digital fakery).

Instead, check out this rockin’ front page story in the Washington Post last Fall that credited me with exposing and revealing for the first time the scientist helping Ayman Zawahiri weaponize anthrax against US targets. CIA Director Tenet then ripped me off at 278-279 by naming Rauf in his book — trying to ride my coattails. Heck, I sent Ed Rauf Ahmad’s resume this week and he won’t consider it because the guy is out of elementary school.

Even the perps ask how I know so much.

Ed may have James Rockford’s (Rockford Files) good looks, and TrebleRebel may have his car, but I have his ability to take a punch.

Suspect and A Setback In Al-Qaeda Anthrax Case - washingtonpost.com - A1

“Rauf’s name was first publicly associated with the documents by Ross the Boss aka PokerBuddy on FreeRepublic, a New York lawyer who maintains a Web site devoted to the 2001 anthrax attacks. ...”

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ article/2006/10/30/AR2006103001250_pf.html


34 posted on 05/10/2007 2:14:45 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: ZacandPook

Clickable link for WP “Suspect and a Setback in Anthrax Al Qaeda Case” article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1729448/posts


35 posted on 05/10/2007 2:46:55 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: ZacandPook
No, don’t be fooled by Ed’s good looks and the fact that his theory that a 1st grader wrote the letters made TIME. That was a human interest piece ...

Was it also a "human interest piece" when Bill Broad at The New York Times wrote:

The misconceptions in the case began early, reinforced by edgy public officials and federal scientists struggling to assess an unfamiliar threat quickly. In Washington, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology studied the anthrax and found what it believed to be added silica, a signature of military anthrax.

“This was a key component,” an institute official said at the time. “Silica prevents the anthrax from aggregating, making it easier to aerosolize.”

Last year, Edward G. Lake, a retired computer systems analyst in Racine, Wis., self-published a book, “Analyzing the Anthrax Attacks,” that documented the silica misunderstanding as well as many other federal and private blunders. “There were,” Mr. Lake said in an interview, “a lot of false assumptions.”

Was it also a "human interest piece" when Glenn Greenwald on Salon.com wrote:

The best publicly available investigative work by far on the anthrax attacks and subsequent investigations is, unsurprisingly, not from a "credentialed journalist," but from someone named Edward G. Lake -- an American citizen, a non-journalist, who is a retired computer systems analyst in Racine, Wisconsin. To his credit, the Times' Broad quoted Lake in his article on the FBI's recent anthax findings, because Lake knows more about the anthrax investigations than any national journalist, by far.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

36 posted on 05/10/2007 3:03:18 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake

But that would be my most important point, Ed.

This question of silica and your confusion over why it wasn’t seen on the SEMS, Dr. Alibek and Dr.Meselson report, is the most important of all.

If you had interviewed Dr. Alibek in years, you would know that.

As for Mr. Greenwald, he points that it was silica, not bentonite.

As for FBI scientist’s Doug Beecher’s two sentences, that were overseen by reviewer Dr. Meselson, I know them because I’m the one that got them from him to distribute so that it would come out why there was no silica that could be seen on the SEMS.

The Faithful Spy: Amerithrax Spoiler Alert
Monday, 23 April 2007, 8:46 pm
Opinion: Ross Getman

By Ross Getman

New York Times correspondent Alex Berenson has written a spy thriller called Faithful Spy. The hero, John Wells, has been undercover so long that the CIA is no longer sure where his loyalties lie. Only the mid-level CIA analyst at Langley, Jennifer Exley, believes in him. But as Zawahiri’s plan to unleash the most devastating bioterrorist attack in history unfolds, Wells and Exley know they must stop him, with or without the help of the ass-covering bureacrats at Langley. Spoiler alert: our hero gets the girl.

Vahid Majidi, a former Los Alamos chemist who heads the FBI Directorate of Weapons of Mass Destruction, last week commented to the New York Daily News about these Jack Bauer (from the tv show “24”) scenarios. “Al Qaeda also developed anthrax, but Majidi said the lack of attacks since 2001 indicates they don’t have the capability.” Dr. Majidi or FBI Director Mueller would have to clarify the statement. Is that because Al Qaeda had the capability but a cell planning to attack the United States was captured?

The President mentioned that Yazid Sufaat’s two principal assistants had been captured in 2003. They had been helping Sufaat prior to 9/11. One man was Sudanese — another was Egyptian. Ron Suskind in the One Percent Solution reported, without naming a source, that “extremely virulent” anthrax was found at a house in Kandahar in Autumn 2003 (that had existed prior to 9/11). He says authorities knew it could be readily weaponized. As intriguing as that vague report is, however, isotopes of the anthrax used in the attacks indicate that the anthrax was grown in the Northeastern United States, not Afghanistan.

The Washington Post, in an article “Hardball Tactics in an Era of Threats,” dated September 3, 2006 summarized events relating an American scientist Ali Al-Timimi:

“To the government, they were a terrorist risk in the Washington area. To local Muslims, they were unfairly singled out for prosecution and severe sentences in a post-9/11 world.

‘In late 2002, the FBI’s Washington field office received two similar tips from local Muslims: Timimi was running ‘an Islamic group known as the Dar al-Arqam’ that had ‘conducted military-style training,’ FBI special agent John Wyman would later write in an affidavit.

Wyman and another agent, Wade Ammerman, pounced on the tips. Searching the Internet, they found a speech by Timimi celebrating the crash of the space shuttle Columbia in 2003, according to the affidavit. The agents also found that Timimi was in contact with Sheikh Safar al-Hawali, a Saudi whose anti-Western speeches in the early 1990s had helped inspire bin Laden.

The agents reached an alarming conclusion: ‘Timimi is an Islamist supporter of Bin Laden’ who was leading a group ‘training for jihad,’ the agent wrote in the affidavit. The FBI even came to speculate that Timimi, a doctoral candidate pursuing cancer gene research, might have been involved in the anthrax attacks.”

On a frigid day in late February 2003, the FBI searched Timimi’s brick townhouse on near Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax. Among the items they were seeking, according to court testimony: material on weapons of mass destruction.

His defense lawyer says that the FBI searched the townhouse “to connect him to the 9/11 attacks or to schemes to unleash a biological or nuclear attack.” Unlike in Berenson’s riveting fictional account Faithful Spy, there was no basement lab — there was no evidence at all found that even remotely hinted at a planned biological attack. When that effort failed, defense counsel says, investigators focused on Al-Timimi’s connections to the men who attended his lectures at the local Falls Church, Va.

Ali Al-Timimi was a graduate student at George Mason University. In November 2000, GMU announced that the School of Computational Sciences and Advanced Biosystems, Inc., a subsidiary of Hadron, Inc., of Alexandria, was pursuing a collaborative program at the Prince William Campus to enhance research and educational objectives in biodefense research. The program was funded primarily by a grant awarded to Advanced Biosystems from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). It was located at GMU’s Discovery Hall on Prince William 2 campus.

Ali Al-Timimi worked at George Mason University’s Discovery Hall throughout 2000 and 2002 period He drafted an October 6, 2002 letter in the name of dissident Sheik al-Hawali, Bin Laden’s former religious instructor, just before the US Congress vote authorizing the use of force against Iraq. The letter warned of the disastrous consequences that would follow an invasion of Iraq. Dr. Timimi’s defense committee explained on their website:

“Because Dr. Al-Timimi felt that he did not have enough stature to send a letter in his name on behalf of Muslims, he contacted Dr. Al-Hawali among others to send the letter. Dr. Al-Hawali agreed and sent a revised version which Dr. Al-Timimi then edited and had hand delivered to every member of Congress.”

Bin Laden had referred to Sheik al-Hawali in his 1996 declaration of war on America. Prior to the 1998 embassy bombings, Ayman’s London cell sent letters to three different media outlets in Europe claiming responsibility for the bombings and referring to Hawali’s imprisonment. In two of the letters, the conditions laid out as to how the violence would stop were (1) release of Sheik Hawali (who along with another had been imprisoned in Saudi Arabia in 1994) and (2) the release of blind sheik Abdel Rahman (who had been imprisoned in connection with WTC 1993). Hawali was released in 1999 after he agreed to stop advocating against the Saudi regime and agreed to limit himself to urging the destruction of the United States and Israel.

Instead of starting a center from scratch, GMU chose to join forces with Dr. Alibek and Dr. Bailey’s existing research firm, Hadron Advanced Biosystems Inc., which was already working under contract for the federal government, having received funding from DARPA. Dr. Alibek told the Washington Post that he and Bailey had spent their careers studying an issue that only recently grabbed the country’s attention, after the anthrax mailings the previous fall. Dr. Bailey and Alibek met in 1991, when a delegation of Soviet scientists visited the USAMRIID at Ft. Detrick. Dr. Bailey explained that the purpose of the tour was to show the Soviets that the US was not developing offensive biological weapons. Bailey said he tried to engage Alibek in conversation but Alibek remained aloof. Alibek, for his part, explains that he was suspicious of this American smiling so broadly at him. A year later, Alibek would defect to the US and reveal an illegal biological program in the Soviet Union of a staggering scope. Alibek says that one reason he defected was that he realized that the Soviet intelligence was wrong — that the US research was in fact only defensive.

In Saudi Arabia, Al-Timimi had been mentored by a Saudi-trained Canadian imam Bilal Philips. Philips was Al-Timimi’s Islamic Studies teacher at high school in Saudi Arabia in the early 1980s. Al-Timimi adopted Philips’ view that “The clash of civilizations is a reality,” and “Western culture led by the United States is an enemy of Islam.”

After completing his religious education in Saudi Arabia in Medina, Ali Al Timimi had returned to the United States and received a second bachelor’s degree — this time in computer science at the University of Maryland, while also studying software programming at George Washington University. Timimi spoke at IANA conferences in 1993 and 1994. A senior al Qaeda recruiter, Abdelrahman Dosari, also spoke at three IANA conferences in the early 1990s. In December 1993, Al-Dorsari (a.k.a. Shaykh Abu Abdel Aziz “Barbaros”) spoke on ‘Jihad & Revival” and exhorted young men to fight for their faith as Al-Timimi would later be accused of doing privately with young men in Virginia.

One author, the father of a boy who knew Al-Timimi as young teen, wrote: “Dozens of his talks are available on the Internet in text and in audio format. They contain little about Arab concerns with the Arab-Israeli wars, the rivalries between the Arab states, the problems faced by Muslims living in the West, or even the war in Iraq. Rather, they reveal a man who reflects deeply on the Islamic vision of Judgment day, prophecy, the nature of the divine, and fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) — subjects with which he grappled in Medina and in his private reading.” Al Timimi’s lecturers (in English after Arabic opening) include “The Negative Portrayal Of Islam In the Media,” “Signs Before the Day of Judgement,” “Advice to the UK Salafis” and “Crusade Complex: Western Perceptions of Islam.”

Al-Timimi’s increasing computer skills got him a job at SRA International where Ali worked as a “bioinformatics software architect” providing information technology to the government. Some of his jobs required that Ali obtain a high-level security clearance. One job resulted in a letter of recommendation from the White House. He then enrolled in the PhD program in computational biology at George Mason University.

By 2000, Ali Al-Timimi was already taking advanced courses at Mason in computational sciences. Timimi once explained his research: “I am currently a research scientist at the Center for Biomedical Genomics and Informatics, George Mason University. I am involved in the analysis of the microarray data generated by the CTRF Cancer Genomics Project. Likewise, I am developing new computational approaches and technologies in support of this project.” The webpage for Timimi’s program at the time explained: “Faculty members and graduate students in the Program in Bioinformatics and Computational Biology participate in numerous collaborative efforts including but not limited to the following Laboratories and Research Centers: Center for Biomedical Genomics and Informatics (GMU) , Laboratory for Microbial and Environmental Biocomplexity (GMU) and Center for Biodefense (GMU).

Beginning the Spring of 2002. GMU hired Ali to develop a computer program that coordinated the research at several universities, letting him go only after he came under suspicion by the FBI. In Spring 2002, according to salary information obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, GMU hired him for $70,000 a year. In 2002, the employment was through the School of Computational Sciences and in 2003, it was through Life Sciences Grants & Contracts.

The School of Computational Sciences at George Mason is a joint venture between the American Type Culture Collection (”ATCC”) and George Mason. The joint venture is an effort to maximize research efforts by combining the academic and applied approaches to research. The School’s first activity was to teach an ATCC course in DNA techniques adapted for George Mason students. The ATCC is an internationally renown non-profit organization that houses the world’s largest and most diverse archive of biological materials. The Prince William Campus shares half of Discovery Hall with ATCC. ATCC moved to its current state-of-the-art laboratory at Discovery Hall (Prince Willam II) in 1998. ATCC’s 106,000-square-foot facility has nearly 35,000 square feet of laboratory space with a specialized air handling system and Biosafety Level 2 and 3 containment stations. The ATCC bioinformatics (BIF) program carries out research in various areas of biological information management relevant to its mission. BIF scientists interact with laboratory scientists in microbiology, cell biology, and molecular biology at ATCC and other laboratories throughout the world. ATCC has strong collaborations with a large number of academic institutions, including computational sciences at George Mason University.

Through these partnerships, the George Mason Prince William Campus offers George Mason microbiology students an opportunity for students to be involved in current research and gain access to facilities and employment opportunities at ATCC and other partner companies.

If the FBI suspected Al-Timimi, there may have been something in the forensic findings that encouraged their suspicion. In mid-March 2001, former USAMRIID head and Ames researcher Bailey and Ken Alibek filed a patent involving a process to treat cell culture with hydrophobic silicon dioxide so as to permit greater concentration upon drying. Both Alibek and Bailey had their offices at GMU’s Discovery Hall at the Center for Biodefense. Victor Morozov later was the co-inventor with Dr. Bailey of the related cell culture process under which the silica was removed from the spore surface.

One ATCC former employee felt so strongly about lax security there the scientist called me out of the blue and said that the public was overlooking the patent repository as a possible source of the Ames strain. ATCC does not deny they had virulent Ames in their patent repository pre 9/11 (as distinguished from their online catalog). The spokesperson emailed me: “As a matter of policy, ATCC does not disclose information on the contents of its patent depository...”

Al-Timimi was on an advisory board member of Assirat al-Mustaqueem, an international Arabic language magazine that published out of Pittsburgh. Assirat, produced in Pittsburgh beginning in 1991, was the creation of a group of North American muslims, many of whom were senior members of IANA. Its Advisory Committee included Bassem Khafagi and Ali Al-Timimi. Two staff members who wrote for Assirat then joined IANA’s staff when it folded in 2000. They had been members of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad and were activists in the movement. One of the former EIJ members, Gamal Sultan, was the editor of the quarterly IANA magazine in 2002. Mr. Sultan’s brother Mahmoud wrote for Assirat also. The most prominent writer was the founder of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Kamal Habib. He led the Egyptian Islamic Jihad at the time of Anwar Sadat’s assassination when young doctor Zawahiri’s cell merged with a few other cells to form the EIJ. Two writers for Assirat in Pittsburgh reportedly had once shared a Portland, Oregon address with Al Qaeda member Wadih El-Hage who served a Bin Laden’s “personal secretary.”

After a visit in 2000, Gamal Sultan said Pittsburgh was known as the “American Kandahar,” given its rolling hills. Besides forming the Islah (”’Reform) party wth Gamal Sultan, Mr. Kamal Habib contributed to Al Manar al Jadeed, IANA’s quarterly journal. The pair sought the blind sheik’s endorsement of their political party venture in March 1999 — although they were not seeking the official participation of organizations like the Egyptian Islamic Jihad or the Egyptian Islamic Group, they were hoping the groups would not oppose it. The pair wanted members of the movement to be free to join in peaceful partisan activity. They were not deterred when the blind sheik responded that the project was pointless. At the same, Sheik Abdel-Rahman withdrew his support for the cease-fire initiative that had been backed by the imprisoned leaders of the Egyptian Islamic Group.

Yusuf Wells, who was a fundraiser for the Benevolence International Foundation, visited Northern Virginia over the April 14-15, 2001 weekend. The previous month he had been at Iowa State on a similar visit. On April 15, 2001, he was brought to a paintball game. In the second season, they had become more secretive and an inquiry by an FBI Special Agent was made in 2000 of one of the members about the games. Part of BIF fundraiser Wells’ job involved writing reports about his fund raising trips. In his April 15, 2001 report he writes:

“I was taken on a trip to the woods where a group of twenty brothers get together to play Paintball. It is a very secret and elite group and as I understand it, it is an honor to be invited to come. The brothers are fully geared up in camouflage fatigues, facemasks, and state of the art paintball weaponry. They call it ‘training’ and are very serious about it. I knew at least 4 or 5 of them were ex US military, the rest varied.

Most all of them young men between the ages of 17-35. I was asked by the amir of the group to give a talk after Thuhr prayer. I spoke about seeing the conditions of Muslims overseas while with BIF, and how the fire of Islam is still very much alive in the hearts of the people even in the midst of extreme oppression. I also stressed the idea of being balanced. That we should not just be jihadis and perfect our fighting skills, but we should also work to perfect our character and strengthen our knowledge of Islam. I also said that Muslims are not just book reading cowards either, and that they should be commended for forming such a group.

Many were confused as to why I had been ‘trusted’ to join the group so quickly, but were comforted after my brief talk. Some offered to help me get presentations on their respective localities.”

Al-Timimi was not friends with the Virginia defendants - at least he did not regularly associate with them outside his classes they attended. But they reportedly were awed by Timimi, a man who could both translate 7th-century Koranic Arabic or joke about the Redskins. The prosecutor argued that the paintball defendants “couldn’t figure out how to tie their shoelaces without asking al-Timimi.” The group looked up to Al-Timimi and sought his advice on all sorts of questions - to include whether it was permissible to pray in a moving car and whether one could cut short his prayers due to an approaching scorpion.

After 9/11, although a dinner that night was cancelled in light of the events of the day, Al-Timimi sought “to organize a plan in case of anti-Muslim backlash and to get the brothers together.” The group got together on September 16. Al-Timimi when he came in told the group to turn of their phones, unplug the answering machine, and pull down the curtains. Al-Timimi told the group that Mullah Omar had called upon Muslims to defend Afghanistan. Al-Timimi read parts of the al-Uqla fatwa to the group and gave the fatwa to Khan with the instructions to burn it after he has read it. Al Timimi said the duty to engage in jihad is “fard ayn” — an individual duty of all Muslims. Over a lunch, Al-Timimi with two of the group, Al-Timimi told them not to carry anything suspicious and if they were stopped on the way to Pakistan to ask for their mother and cry like a baby. He told them to carry a magazine. The next day the pair left for Pakistan. The group from the September 16 meeting met again in early October, and a number left for Pakistan immediately after that meeting.

Al-Timimi sent out a February 1, 2003 email in Arabic containing an article that said:

“There is no doubt Muslims were overjoyed because of the adversity that befell their greatest enemy. The Columbia crash made me feel, and God is the only One to know, that this is a strong signal that Western Supremacy (especially that of America) that began 500 years ago is coming to a quick end, God willing, as occurred to the shuttle.”

In 2001, Al-Timimi kept the personal papers of IANA President Khafagi at his home for safekeeping. His taped audio lecturers were among the most popular at the charity Islamic Assembly of North America in Ann Arbor, Michigan. He knew its President, Khafagi, both through work with CAIR and IANA. Al Timimi was close to his former teacher Safar al Hawali. Al Hawali has played a public role in mediating between Saudi militants and the government. Al-Timimi sought to represent and explain the views radical sheik Al-Hawali in a letter he sent to members of Congress. The same nondescript office building at 360 S. Washington St. in Falls Church where Timimi used to lecture at Dar al Arqam housed the Muslim World League.

Al-Timimi met with FBI agents 7 or 8 times in the months leading up to his arrest. Al-Timimi is a US citizen born in Washington DC His house was searched, his passport taken and his telephone monitored. His communications with Sheik al-Hawali were intercepted.

Al-Hawali, was one of the original incorporators of Mercy International. Mercy, as a front for Al Qaeda, was deeply involved in planning the 1998 embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. The two radical sheiks had been imprisoned from 1994-1999. Ali Al Timimi received his PhD in computational biology shortly after his indictment for recruiting young men to fight the US.

Upon his indictment, in September 2004, al-Timimi explained he had been offered a plea bargain of 14 years, but he declined. He quoted Sayyid Qutb. He said he remembered “reading his books and loving his teaching” as a child, and that Qutb’s teaching prevented him from signing something that was false by “the finger that bears witness.” He noted that he and his lawyers asked that authorities hold off the indictment until he had received his PhD, but said that unfortunately they did not wait.

The indictment against the paintball defendants alleged that at an Alexandria, Virginia residence, in the presence of a representative of BIF, the defendants watched videos depicting Mujahadeen engaged in Jihad and discussed a training camp in Bosnia.

Famed head of the former Russian bioweaponeering program Ken Alibek told me that he would occasionally see Al-Timimi in the hallways at George Mason, where they both were in the microbiology department, and had been vaguely aware that he was an islamic hardliner. In the end, Al-Timimi was indicted for inciting the young men to go to Afghanistan to defend the Taliban against the United States. During deliberations, he reportedly was very calm, reading Genome Technology and other scientific journals.

At the same time the FBI was searching the townhouse of PhD candidate Ali Timimi, searches and arrests moved forward elsewhere. In Moscow, Idaho, the activities by IANA webmaster Sami al-Hussayen that drew scrutiny involved the same radical sheik. Interceptions showed a very close link between IANA’s Sami al-Hussayen and Sheikh al-Hawali, to include the setting up of web sites, and the providing of vehicles for extended communication. Al-Hussayen had al-Hawali’s phone number upon the search of his belongings upon his arrest. Sami Hussayen made numerous calls and wrote many e-mails to al-Hawali, sometimes giving advice to him and another dissident Saudi sheik about running Arabic-language Web sites on which they espoused their anti-Western views. Sami al-Hussayen was acquitted of all charges.

George Mason University, Department Listings, accessed August 17, 2003, shows that the National Center For Biodefense and Center for Biomedical Genomics had the same mail stop (MS 4ES). The most famed bioweaponeer in the world — the former head of the Russian bioweapons program (to include anthrax ) — was not far from this sheik urging violent jihad in an apocalyptic struggle between religions. The groups both shared the same department fax of XXX-4288. Dr. Alibek reports that shortly after the mailings, he wrote Director Mueller and offered his services but was advised that they already had assembled a large group.

Charles Bailey, the former head of USAMRIID, formally joined the Center in April 2001. He continued to do research with the Ames anthrax strain after 9/11. Over 13 years, he had served as a Research Scientist, Deputy Commander for Research, Deputy Commander and Commander at the U.S. Army Medical Research Instiute. As a USAMRIID scientist, he designed and supervised the construction of BL-3 containment facilities. His hands-on experience with a wide variety of pathogens is chronicled in 70 published articles. During his 4 years with the Defense Intelligence Agency, he published numerous articles assessing foreign capabilities regarding biological weapons.” When I asked Dr. Bailey to confirm Al-Timimi’s room number relative to his own, his only response was to politely refer me to University counsel. Counsel then never responded to my inquiry regarding their respective room numbers.

In Fall 2001, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (”AFIP”) had detected silicon dioxide (silica) in the attack anthrax - with a characteristic big spike for the silicon. The reason for the silicon dioxide/silica claimed to have been detected by AFIP has never been explained (and it’s been nearly a half decade). Dr. Alibek and Dr. Matthew Meselson (of Sverdlosk fame) report that no silica was observable on the SEMS images that they saw. The Daschle product was “pure spores.” But while the spores were not coated with silica, was silicon dioxide used as part of a microdroplet cell culture process used prior to drying to permit greater concentration? (Is that why it was detected by the EDX?)

Dr. Alibek and the former head of USAMRIID, Ames anthrax research Charles Bailey, had filed a patent application in mid-March 2001 involving a microdroplet cell culture technique that used silicon dioxide in a method for concentrating growth of cells. The patent was granted and the application first publicly disclosed in the Spring of 2002. Weren’t the SEMS images and AFIP EDX finding both consistent with use of this process in growing the culture? It’s been suggested informally that perhaps the silicon analytical peak was more likely due to silanol from hydrolysis of a silane, used in siliconizing glassware.

But didn’t the AFIP in fact also detect oxygen in ratios characteristic of silicon dioxide? Wasn’t the scientist, now deceased, who performed the EDX highly experienced and expert in detecting silica? Hasn’t the AFIP always stood by its report, in which it explained: “AFIP experts utilized an energy dispersive X-ray spectrometer (an instrument used to detect the presence of otherwise-unseen chemicals through characteristic wavelengths of X-ray light) to confirm the previously unidentifiable substance as silica?” Perhaps the nuance that was lost - or just never publicly explained for very sound reasons - was that silica was used in the cell culture process and then removed from the spores through a process such as repeated centrifugation.

Dr. Morozov is co-inventor along with Dr. Bailey for a patent “Cell Culture” that explains how the silicon dioxide can be removed from the surface. Perhaps it is precisely this AFIP finding of silicon dioxide (without silica on the SEMS) that is why the FBI came to suspect Al-Timimi in 2003 (rightly or wrongly, we don’t know). The FBI would have kept these scientific findings secret to protect the integrity of the confidential criminal/national security investigation. There was still a processor and mailer to catch — still a case to prove, particularly given that their investigation had not produced any evidence against Al-Timimi.

Last year, FBI microbiologist Dr. Doug Beecher commented in a publication that it undermines biodefense preparations to underestimate the danger of simple spore preparations. He provided me a copy when I wrote him as the designated corresponding author. I then distributed it to reporters. The paper reportedly had been reviewed by Professor Meselson at Harvard. Dr. Beecher is right that there is no reason to view it as akin to “militarization” or requiring state sponsorship. The two sentences by Beecher actually did not address the precise issue presented at all. They just go to illustrate and confirm Dr. Alibek’s point that a sophisticated product can result from a relatively simple method. Perhaps the United States biodefense establishment should not let officials commercialize and disclose such dual use technology, whether the patent is assigned to a DARPA-funded program or not — and whether deemed “biofriendly” or not. (The 2001 patent I’ve described, which was not classified, has been assigned to George Mason University). Richard Ebright is right: proliferation of facilities increases the risk of access to know-how. Given that biodefense spending is fueled by the usual politics-driven pork-barrelled spending, it’s a recipe for disaster.

The many bloggers and commentators who have long held strong and divergent opinions may have just been seeing the elephant in the living room from a different angle. Actually, they’ve just been in a position to see the elephant’s rump from outside the living room door.

Ali Al-Timimi has a very substantial appeal pending in a case that involves a sentence that seems way out of proportion to the crime of exhorting young men to go abroad and defend their faith. In a November 30, 2004 letter of appeal circulated in sympathetic circles in the US and the UK, Bilal Philips encouraged Muslims to assist Al-Timimi “financially, morally or politically.” The letter urged that “whatever the charges against him [Al-Timimi] may be, from an Islamic perspective they are false and contrived in order to silence the Da’wah to correct Islam.”

In a June 2005 interview in a Swiss (German language) weekly news magazine, Neue Zurcher Zeitung, Ken Alibek addresses the anthrax mailings:

A. “...What if I told you Swiss scientists are paid by Al Qaeda? You could believe it or not. It has become somewhat fashionable to disparage Russian scientists. Americans, Iraqis, or whoever could just as well be involved with Al Qaeda. Why doesn’t anyone speculate about that?”

Q. “But could one of your students build a biological weapon in the garage?”

A. “Let me reply philosophically: Two hundred years ago, it was unthinkable to believe that people would be using mobile telephones, wasn’t it? Everything changes. Our knowledge grows, and technology develops incredibly quickly. These days even high-school kids can breed recombinant microbial strains. I am not saying that a student is in a position to build a biological weapon all by himself. But the knowledge needed to do it is certainly there.”

Al-Timimi’s attorney emphasizes that while they searched for materials related to a planned biological attack when they searched his townhouse in late February 2003 — what he calls Plan A — they came up empty.

He explains that it was only then they turned to Plan B. No one who responded to my inquiries ever knew Al-Timimi to ever have been involved in any biodefense project. For example, former Russian bioweaponeer Sergei Popov did not know of any such work by Al-Timimi, and Anna Popova had only seen him in the hall on a very rare occasion.

Dr. Alibek thought of him as a “numbers guy” rather than a hands-on type. Given that the FBI knows what Al-Timimi had for dinner on September 16, 2001, it is very likely that the past years have involved a continued search for the mailer and/or processor — with all theories explored and no stone left unturned.

At his sentencing, Dr. Al-Timimi spoke in clear and measured tones:

“I will not admit guilt nor seek the Court’s mercy. I do this not out of any disrespect to the Court. I do this simply because I am innocent.

My claim of innocence is not because of any inherent misunderstanding on my part as to the nature of the crimes for which I was convicted nor is it because my Muslim belief recognizes sharia rather than secular law. It is merely because I am innocent.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I declare the government’s recitation poor as it stripped those words of their meaning.

Imprisonment of any term, as this Court well knows, is a crisis for the incarcerated and his or her loved ones. I am no exception to that.

But the real crisis brought on my imprisonment, I sincerely believe is America’s. For if my conviction is to stand, it would mean that two hundred and thirty years of America’s tradition of protecting the individual from the tyrannies and whims of the sovereign will have come to an end. And that which is exploited today to persecute a single member of a minority will most assuredly come back to haunt the majority tomorrow.”

He was sentenced to life in prison plus 70 years. Dr. Timimi has very substantial pending appeals relating to warrantless wiretapping and the First Amendment. Dr. Timimi’s attorney likely is understandably annoyed that they keep moving Al-Timimi between prisons. KSM invoked George Washington in his statement to a military tribunal in March 2007. That was far less compelling because he was admitting to many serious crimes. Dr. Al-Timimi, on the other hand, was guilty of nothing other than exhorting some young men to go abroad and defend their faith. It seems that his only crime was to put his religion before his nation-state.

As Al-Timimi explained in his eloquent statement upon sentencing, he was convicted out of fear.

The anthrax mailer had asked: “Are you afraid?” The answer was yes.

As one Washington Post reporter said of such cases, the government seems to be engaged in shadow boxing. The only way to get rid of the shadows is to turn on the lights.

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Attorney Ross Getman maintains the website http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com


37 posted on 05/10/2007 3:41:49 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: EdLake
"I write a weekly feature for an Australian celebrity magazine."

Australian celebrities...HMmmm - do you feel the need to specialize at all, or do you cover the entire spectrum of Australian celebrities?

38 posted on 05/10/2007 5:40:24 PM PDT by Nova
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To: Nova
do you feel the need to specialize at all

I specialize in finding facts where others are only interested in arguing opinions and beliefs. That specialty takes me into all kinds of areas.

Debating facts with people who are only interested in opinions and beliefs can sometimes be interesting, because it forces me to examine every fact very carefully and to be very precise in my wording.

But sometimes I'm not as precise in my wording as I should be, and sometimes people who have nothing else to say will point out that I could have or should have phrased some sentence differently. Here's a more accurate phrasing:

I write a weekly feature for a magazine about celebrities which is published in Australia.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

39 posted on 05/11/2007 7:27:03 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: ZacandPook
But that would be my most important point, Ed.

It seems to me that your ONLY point is that you have no relevant facts so you bury people in a mountain of bulls**t and hope they will be impressed by the weight of your argument.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

40 posted on 05/11/2007 7:33:48 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake

Here is video of FBI Director’s 2005 briefing on the Amerithrax probe.

Mueller On Anthrax Probe
CBS News RAW: F.B.I. Director Robert Mueller spoke about the investigation into the anthrax attacks four years ago and the potential for future threats, during a September news conference.

You can get to it from this link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/22/national/main1338657.shtml


41 posted on 05/11/2007 10:12:13 AM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: EdLake
"I write a weekly feature for a magazine about celebrities which is published in Australia."

Ah, so I guess my attempted joke about your statement was received as not merely offensive but also as meaningless. But it was simply meant as a joke, there was no intention to make a serious statement or to offend. Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

42 posted on 05/12/2007 4:32:01 PM PDT by Nova
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To: EdLake

Ed, you said you wanted ne to consider the facts underlying your theory. The main aspects of your theory is that a Central NJ microbiologist divorcee’s 1st grader wrote the letters and that the perp intended to “sound an alarm.”

You explained his theory in January 2001 on alt.conspiracy.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/fd0591159f91c322/bb8217abc03bb93c?lnk=st&q=anthraxinvestigation&rnum=384#bb8217abc03bb93c

Ed writes:

“Have you looked at the web site of the Federation of American
Scientists? Barbara Rosenberg says almost the same thing that I
say. Except she believes that the American scientist works in the
Washington D.C. area. The FAS site is here: “

So it is just a statement of fact — not accusation — that you viewed your theory as almost the same as the theory urged by Dr. Rosenberg in her December 2002 website. Although it was not an official FAS position, the FAS could fill a bus with the number of Nobel laureates it has and so you were in fine company.

You say she said “almost the same thing” with the difference that her person worked in the Washington, D.C. area.” As of January 2002, your person, you suggested , lived “either in New York City or within commuting distance.” You then changed it to refer to Central New Jersey. Perhaps the imagined perpetrator moved to near Princeton, the place of mailng, or perhaps you were just unaware initially where he had lived at the time of mailing.

BHR’s theorized motive is fine, Ed — “sound the alarm etc.” — as is yours. So there is no need for you to get defensive.

You explained the origin of your child theory in mid-December 2001 in the summary changes to your webpages:

“December 9, 2001: Richard M. Smith provided me with a link (now expired) to a page that provided comments by Senator Daschle that the government now (more or less) officially thinks that the anthrax terrorist is a former member of the US military. In addition, I was provided with a link that says that the FBI is fully aware that some or all of the letters are photocopies. Plus, a comment by “Debby” on the alt.true-crime newsgroup that the anthrax terrorist’s ex-wife might read supermarket tabloids caused me realize that the anthrax letters could actually have been written by a small child - just as they appear. It’s a big stretch in speculation, but the letters could have been written by a child belonging to the terrorist, and the child may also have addressed the envelopes. I added speculation about that to the page. “

You also announced the particulars of the “profile” of the person you suspected to newsgroups.

You wrote:

“Dec 17 2001, 11:34 am
The FBI has developed a profile of the anthrax terrorist, but
they are playing it safe out of fear of being ridiculed if they
speculate too much. I have no such fear. I love to speculate.

From my web page at http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
here is my profile of the anthrax terrorist:

1. He’s between ages 30 and 60. [later changed to in his 40s]
2. He formerly worked for the US military in a biological
weapons program.
3. He currently works in the Health Industry.
4. He lives in New York City or within commuting distance of
NYC. [later changed to living in Central NJ]
5. He traveled to Indianapolis, Indiana, sometime prior to Sept.
11, 2001. [later omitted, I believe]
6. He drove to Trenton, New Jersey, on Sept. 18 and on October
9, 2001.
7. He reads the New York Post.
8. He probably watches Tom Brokaw for his evening news.
9. He probably subscribes to cable.
10. He probably watches Bill O’Reilly on the Fox News Channel.
11. He lives alone.
12. He finds it difficult to get along with others and may have
a tendency to say things like “I keep telling them but the just
don’t listen!” or “I just don’t understand how people can think
that way!”
13. He may read supermarket tabloids, but more likely he
considers them trash and ridicules the people who read such
things because they are reading nonsense while ignoring what is
“real”. It’s also very possible that it’s his ex-wife who reads
the tabloids.
14. He is probably American born and an American citizen. But
if he is originally from another country, it would be a country
where English is not the primary language nor the alphabet, but
which has more experience with terrorism.
15. He may have some connection to the publication of a
newsletter that expresses his beliefs.
16. He votes Republican.
17. He is probably divorced as a result of the stress of losing
his job with the military.
18. He has a small child and has visitation rights with the
child.
19. He used his child to address the envelopes and to write the
letters.
20. The child is home schooled.

All the details behind this profile are on my web page at
http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html

Ed “

You explained in another post in groups:

“The BTWC information is just another piece in a long series of pieces that
makes it a near certainty that an American scientist was behind the
anthrax attacks. And on my web site there is probably enough information
to identify him - if the right person were to read it. That “right
person” would have to be someone who knows the terrorist but who never
actually looked at what information is available about the terrorist.

Ed”

When I went to turn to consider your theory at his urging this past week on Free Republic, you got extremely upset. But IMO you only find it threatening that I do not credit that someone would ask a 1st grader living with his ex-wife to write a terrorist threat letter. I don’t know ex-wives, but I know 1st graders. They can’t keep a secret, especially from their mom. So the theory was always silly from the start.

So you don’t really want people — or at least me — to consider your self-described speculation. You just wants to market your self-described speculation as what you now describe as FACT (capitals are yours) for a half decade . Meanwhile, your stated purpose is to have people who know the scientist “actually look[] at what information is available about the terrorist.”

Meanwhile, if you are wrong, Al Qaeda may attack, authorities say, with aerosolized anthrax. Ed, you never had any FACTS supporting his theory — you just had your theory and beliefs. And you borrowed that from BHR.

Isn’t what you are doing exactly what you criticize BHR for doing? She never named anyone. The only difference is that she got an audience with Senate staffers and you didn’t.

A profile should be built around a crime not a person. Your approach turns criminal profiling on its head. A threat assessment relating to Ayman Zawahiri OTOH is just that — an assessment of the threat, an attempt to judge the probabilities etc.

http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com

Back in December 2001 and January 2002 you had the self-awareness that your theory was rank speculation. It still is,

“The FBI has developed a profile of the anthrax terrorist, but
they are playing it safe out of fear of being ridiculed if they
speculate too much. I have no such fear. I love to speculate.”


43 posted on 05/13/2007 12:11:42 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: ZacandPook

On the alt.true-crime newsgroup, he noted that same day:

“Debby,

Your comment that it was his ex-wife who reads the tabloids really got me to
thinking, and I mentioned that comment on my web page at
http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html

I don’t know how young the child is, but he/she would have to be young enough to not realize what was happening.  It’s a really great theory.  I’d been trying to figure out how he could get a kid to write the letters for him, and then your comment made it clear: he used his own kid!  It’s probably just wild speculation, but it sure fits.

Thanks for the feedback.  I really appreciate it.

Ed”

In contrast to who you correctly note is “wild speculation,” an Al Qaeda theory starts with documentary evidence of a stated intent to use weaponized anthrax against US targets in retaliation for the rendering of EIJ leaders.


44 posted on 05/13/2007 5:19:25 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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