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VIDEO : Iraq linked with 9/11 and the anthrax attacks
Video ^ | 05/09/07 | drzz

Posted on 05/09/2007 11:45:04 AM PDT by drzz

the 9/11 plot with testimonies of experts and pictures of the terrorists. How they looked like Westerners (watch their original clothes) and worked with Iraq to do 9/11. How they were trained in Salman Pak, Iraq.

And how Ahmed Al Haznawi was treated in Holy Cross Hospital in June 2001 for sknin infection by anthrax. The first anthrax attacks happened in September 18 2001, with a letter which stated: "Death to America, Allah is great."

Experts link Iraq before both 9/11 and the anthrax attacks which remained unsolved.

Watch the video. The enemy is stronger than we thought.


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KEYWORDS: 11; 911; alqaeda; anthrax; arabia; atta; binladin; bush; cia; democrats; foreign; gop; iran; iraq; israel; jihad; mossad; plot; saddam; september; terrorism; wot
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1 posted on 05/09/2007 11:46:00 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

I think this is a good effort. I’ve believed for a long time that conservatives needed to make a compelling documentary. I favor calling it “The Great Iraq Deception”. The true conspiracy is in how there seems to be an effort to totally disregard all the evidence especially Salman Pak. There are thousands of documents that were seized that show Saddam was very active in training terrorists and planing attacks abroad but it seems our government and the Bush Administration is complicit in the cover up something I don’t understand.

The Democrat memo planning how to under cut the war effort is indicative that there is a concerted political effort to color the Iraq War as lost and to cast doubt on everything leading up to Iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102258,00.html


2 posted on 05/09/2007 12:01:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Great assertions require great empirical proof.)
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To: veritas

ping


3 posted on 05/09/2007 12:03:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Maelstorm

The revisionism made by the Democrats is outstanding.

When Defense Secretary William Cohen of the Clinton administration explained the bombings of Sudan, he said that Bin Laden was working closely with Iraq.

And now, hop!, the links and Saddam’s involvment becomes a matter of Bush 41’s people (who don’t want to admit that they let a major threat in power in 1991) and Clinton’s Democrats.

Iraq has let clues of its involvment in EACH of the terror attacks that struck US interests in a decade. In EACH of these attacks, the terrorists had links with Iraq intelligence services.

In 2000, Al Zawhiri, Al Qaeda number 2, met Saddam’s men in Baghdad.

Watch the other video:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1sx7x_saddams-secrets


4 posted on 05/09/2007 12:06:54 PM PDT by drzz
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To: Maelstorm

Thanks for the Info....Bookmark for more indepth review


5 posted on 05/09/2007 12:13:26 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: drzz

A very well-focused, detailed effort. I hope it makes an impact.


6 posted on 05/09/2007 12:25:27 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: drzz

The suggestion that the experts agree with Dr. Spertzel has no basis.

There is a great difference of opinion as to the sophistication of the anthrax.

His is one view. (search Dr. Doug Beecher for the contrary view expressed by an FBI scientist).

The hijacker with the anthrax lesion had just come from Kandahar where the Al Qaeda anthrax laboratory was located. That is where Suskind reports “extremely virulent anthrax” was found at a residence in Autumn 2003, upon Hambali’s harsh interrogation.

Much is known about who helped Al Qaeda with its anthrax. Rauf Ahmad detained in December 2001. Yazid Sufaat captured in December 2001. Abdul Qadoos Khan and KSM, arrested in March 2003. Yazid Sufaat’s assistants Barq and Wahdan who were captured in 2003. One was Egyptian and one was Sudanese.

Tenet in his book says that he believes in 2006 they conclusively learned that the fellow in Prague was not Atta.

Tenet says Al Qaeda’s anthrax planning was done in parallel with its 9/11 planning. Sufaat briefed Hambali and wrapped things up in Kandahar, Tenet says, in June 2001. He says the anthrax program was strictly compartmentalized at the highest level.

Prior to that, he said, the CIA could not confirm the allegation of the Prague meeting.

In a May 2006 show, Michael Scheuer said that humint and sigint confirmed experimentation with anthrax at Ansar al-Islam but there has been no second report along those lines.

In short, while there is lots of evidence pointing to Al Qaeda as responsible for the anthrax mailings, including documentary evidence, there is no evidence that Iraq is responsible. For example, I link the correspondence between the scientist Ayman had infiltrate UK’s biodefense establishment.

http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com

The Iraqi, an American citizen, who worked in the same building as the former heads of the Russian (former First Deputy Ken Alibek) and US programs (former USAMRIID and Ames researcher Bailey) was a supporter of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and the Saudi sheik al-Hawali. He was not a supporter of Saddam. He was sentenced to life plus 70 years on other grounds — for exhorting young men to go abroad and defend their faith.

Nice music though.

But pointing to Iraq without evidence only serves to undermine the public understanding of the massive evidence pointing to Al Qaeda.

The clothes worn by the hijackers is not evidence at all.

http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com


7 posted on 05/09/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: ZacandPook

Welcome to Free Republic.


8 posted on 05/09/2007 12:35:57 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Defeatocrat party left me.)
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To: ZacandPook

“Tenet in his book says that he believes in 2006 they conclusively learned that the fellow in Prague was not Atta.”

They say the guy at the April 9, 2001 meeting was not Atta. He should have been “a confusion with name” although the Czech operative identified Atta by his face after 9/11, not by his name.

And Atta went to Prague in March 1999, June 2000, April 9 2001, April 22, 2001, he even arrived in the United States in the Summer of 2001 from Prague.

Do you know why the CIA is fighting with the Pentagon about Saddam-al-Qaeda links ? Because it would show its own failure.

The fact the US government says he wasn’t able to identify a biological attack that cost the lived of 5 people and costs more than 1 billions to American taxpayers is pure joke.

Americans would not admit such incomptence in another case.

And if there is something to learn about CIA director Tenet after the release of his book, that’s he is a good liar on everything.

What makes me laugh is that every American feel something is wrong with this story, every American understands that the liberal denial about Saddam-Al-Quaeda links is pure politics, but poeple turn around the main subject with the fear to even speak about it.

Laurie Mylroie demonstrated Iraq was involved in the bombings of 1993. She was backed by FBI officials. Still the US government official story denies it. One of the bomber, Yasin, fled in Iraq. The other, Ramzi Yousef, who arrived in the US with an Iraqi passport, was arrested several months later.

Then 8 years later, planes crashed against buildings, against the same World Trade Center, planned by Yousef’s uncle, Khlaid Sheikh Mohamed.

Mohamed recently admitted he planned the 1993 bombings.

Gad it ? 1993 and 2001 bombing were masterminded by the same man.

And if links with Iraqi involvement were demonstrated by Mylroie and accepted by FBI and justice officials who investigated, it is more than likely that Iraq is also behind the 9/11 and the anthrax attack.

But by admitting that the CIA and the US establishment would agree that they did not their jobs during 10 years and didn’t answer to Iraqi attacks.

The US agencies were not weak on 9/11. They were on the run. A disaster.

This is not surprise North Korea obtained nukes, bin Laden created his base and international terrorism won strength during Clinton’s mandates.

When you don’t want to fight the enemy, you lose.

And if you lose, the first thing you do is to send Sandy Berger “clean” the National Archives and you begin re-writing the story of Saddam’s regime, before and after 9/11.

This is where we are today.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 12:50:49 PM PDT by drzz
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To: Maelstorm

I Still have many questions about 911 Athrax Attack.

Forget about Salman Pak and WMD...that’s old hash.

Think about how the Iraqi Intelligence working with al Queda. It’s like dealing with spiders hatching!

I like this by Ross Getman website...http://mysite.verizon.net/vze43v8m/index.html It’s pretty scary what could of happen.

I also like http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/ I like it when these two guys go at it on FR.

Interesting debates.

Here me out...I’m might be off the wall. I really went outside the box. I am a amateur...please excuse me.

Remember Sec. Defense Cohen 1997 Sunday talk show holding up a five pound bag of sugar? He said similar amount of Anthrax would kill 300,000 people in the DC area if release into the air by terrorist. http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/misc1.html

Our service members had to get Anthrax vaccinations in 1998 because it was a real threat.

Anthrax Timeline: 1998 - An Iraqi terrorist network, being maintained in the US, is intended to conduct acts of bio-terrorism and the report finished with BW agents by Iraqi women who smuggle agent-filled vials into the US within their bodies. 1998 - The British government issued a warning to all ports about an Iraqi attempt to bring large quantities of the deadly anthrax germ into Britain (and other countries) inside cosmetic bottles, cigarette lighters, and perfume sprays, disguised as duty-free goods. http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraq_anthrax.pdf

1998 - Iraqi Women smuggling Anthrax into US http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/558108/posts

Interesting here Larry Wayne Harris recounts an Iraqi scientist named Miriam Arif. She claimed she smuggled Anthrax into the United States. This is after the 93 WTC attack. Why are Iraqi scientist still doing in the United States?

Ex-CIA Microbiologist Reveals Iraqi Plot to Attack US With Biowarfare by 2002 [Please read] Video Interview | 1997 | Larry Wayne Harris http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/529549/posts Larry Harris is a fraud. Arrest of Larry Harry http://www.lasvegassun.com/dossier/crime/bio/harris.html http://www.legalcasedocs.com/120/250/263.html http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/text/1998/feb/19/506856398.html

William Leavitt Jr http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX/ACT-5650

U.N. downplays Iraq’s arrest of germ expert; U.S. uncertain Hindawi March 24, 1998

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/24/iraq.arrest.update/index.html

Saddam Regime arrest Bio-Expert of Nassir Hindawi from fleeing Iraq. Was the man going to talk to inspectors? Why was Abu Nidal assassinated by Iraqi Intelligence in August 2002. Was he going to defect? http://www.salon.com/news/1998/03/25news.html

Iraq and al Queda Anthrax Connection Chez say city is a hotbed of terrorist and mafia http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/562876/posts

Boca Raton, Florida Suspects live in apartment where Newspaper facility got infected including Atta. Anthrax used in NY and Nevada. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2001/10/mil-011015-39c927ed.htm

Poisons for Assassinations Circa 1988? THE HEAD OF IRAQI INTELLIGENCE SERVICE IS KAMAL ((HUSAYN)); THE IRAQIS ARE USING POISONS FOR ASSASSINATIONS OF POLITICAL OPPONENTS. THEY HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY FOND OF THALLIUM FOR WHICH THERE IS NO KNOWN ANTIDOTE OR TREATMENT. THE POISON IS GIVEN IN FOOD AND DEATH IS VERY PAINFUL. THEY ALSO HAVE TOXINS WHICH ARE USED FOR ASSASSINATION PURPOSES. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/gulflink/95071933.txt

WTC 93 - Cyninade laced bomb. Iraqi born business man Ihsan Barbouti shipped fruit pits to Iraq to be made into Cyninade. http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraq_anthrax.pdf

CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL TERRORISM: AN INCREASING THREAT By Dany Shoham 1995- The Iraqis choose another horrifying toxicant for conducting political assassinations—thallium—an extremely poisonous metal mixed by Iraqis agents with food or drink of the selected victims. A nerve agent has also been effectively used by the Iraqis in a clandestine poisoning of food and perhaps in fostering outbreaks of typhoid and malaria within Kurdish populations. Iraqi agents were trained in using chemical and biological agents against civilian targets at a special school near East Berlin and at training camps in the Middle East. [xlvi] http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/meria/chem-bio-terror.html

December 1995 Moayad Hassan Naji al-Janabi, an engineer in the Iraqi nuclear program, is shot dead in Amman, Jordan while seeking asylum from the United States or the United Kingdom. —Jon Swain, “Mystery of Iraqi Nuclear Expert,” Sunday Times, 2 April 1995, cited in . Jordan gives sanctuary to Saddam’s defective son in law. Tighten border. Iraqi troops mass up at Kuwait and Saudi Border in 1995 Defector 1994 – USNEWS article 2001 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/terror/articles/hamza011222.htm

Sudanese Civil War – Iraq moved WMD to Sudan for Storage 1997 Sudan has recently begun to use ballistic missiles against innocent civilians and other humanitarian sites in central and southern Sudan; it is also being investigated for using chemical or biological weapons in its bombing campaign. The Sudanese People’s Liberation Army (SPLA), the largest opposition force to the government of Sudan, reported that the government was producing uranium in the Kai Khong area of Al Wahda province near the Blue Nile and exporting it to China and Iran. Allegations that the government of Sudan used Iraqi-manufactured mustard gas artillery shells and nerve agents against the SPLA and civilian populations in southern Sudan, or that the government allowed Iraqis or Iranians to use WMD on Sudanese in Sudan, should be investigated with the utmost diligence and the perpetrators should be held accountable. The government of Sudan reportedly has acquired large stockpiles of Iraqi mustard gas/blister agent in violation of its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention. In 1997, Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction to Sudan for storage. http://www.survivorsrightsinternational.org/sri_news/SRI-Khar.pdf

Woosley protects Iraqis from being deported. Not double agents. Dr. treated poison victims. http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/07/980706-iraq-cia.htm

1998 : (IRAQI INTELLIGENCE AGENT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT SADDAM HUSSEIN’S REGIME’S FRONT COMPANIES AND A NUCLEAR DEAL BETWEEN IRAQ AND SOUTH AFRICA IS ARRESTED, TORTURED AND FINALLY INJECTED WITH THALLIUM BEFORE HE ESCAPES IRAQ) A former Iraqi intelligence officer responsible for setting up front companies for illegal overseas purchases claims that Iraq has arranged to purchase nuclear weapons material (including uranium) from Armscor, South Africa’s state armaments directorate. During the Iran-Iraq war Armscor supplied Iraq with advanced 155mm howitzers. These sales are handled through a front company in Jordan. For five years he personally ran a procurement network based in Dubai for the Special Security Organization, the elite of Saddam’s vast intelligence apparatus, in charge of overseas procurement and responsible for hiding key equipment and material for Saddam’s weapons programs. He was arrested by the regime in 1998, viciously tortured, given an injection of thalium and dumped on the street. Bleeding from his nose, mouth and stomach, he managed to escape to Northern Iraq and ultimately to Turkey, where human-rights workers treat him successfully for thallium poisoning Thalium poisoning a favorite method of the regime for executing its enemies, because it causes a slow, painful death.— via “Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History, “ Various Sources , 02-20-03 , by PsyOp 12 posted on 10/07/2004 9:16:14 PM PDT by piasa http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/1238581/posts


10 posted on 05/09/2007 12:51:45 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: drzz

Thinking about the Ft. Dix situation.


11 posted on 05/09/2007 1:00:12 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Milligan

Keep up the good work drzz!

Another thing Saddam wanted to assassinate his opponents.

Kay ISG Report
Saddam’s Clandestine Labs

Iraqi Intelligence Service Undeclared Research on Poisons and Toxins for Assassination

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/isg-final-report_vol3_cw-anx-a.htm

I sent this to ikez78....just to let you know.


12 posted on 05/09/2007 1:04:03 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

Good stuff thanks.


13 posted on 05/09/2007 1:40:25 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Global Warming=A Return to Eden)
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To: drzz

“Do you know why the CIA is fighting with the Pentagon about Saddam-al-Qaeda links ? Because it would show its own failure.”

As an example of CIA’s and FBI’s failure, there is the matter of the two hijackers who flew in to Los Angeles but the FBI did not locate them even though the system was “blinking red”.

Another example of the FBI’s failure was that the senior DOJ folks didn’t realize that Moussaoui’s known connection with Ibn Khattab was enough to get them access under FISA to his laptop.

These examples of failures are explained by Tenet.

It was especially crazy for Condi Rice to say that no one ever imagined that planes would be flown into landmarks, when the same had been planned with a plane flying into the Eiffel Tower and even Bojinka had involved the possible scenario of a small explosive-laden plane into Langley.

So there was lots of blame to go around. But given that the anthrax lab techs working prior to 9/11 have been captured, there is no reason to rely on the fact that the hijackers knew how to put pants on as evidence relating to anthrax. Instead, the datum of note is that Tenet for the first time listed 9/11 planner Ramzi Bin Alshibh as having a CBRN role. Previously, we knew only that KSM took over from Atef upon his death of the anthrax cell led by Sufaat and Hambali, and assisted by Barq and Wahdan. But given that the isotopes indicate that the anthrax was grown in the US, there is a very real unresolved issue of whether there were US-based supporters of Al Qaeda that picked up where Sufaat left off in June 2001 when he briefed Hambali and Ayman Zawahiri.

LM’s theory hinged on KSM being an Iraqi agent impersonating KSM. When KSM turned out to be KSM, I’m not clear on what part of her theory survived.

The more nuanced theory is whether or not an Iraqi intelligence agent (named Wael, I believe) had infilitrated Ansar Al-Islam and if so what decision-making role or tactical role he had. It was very dramatic for Michael Scheuer, head of the CIA’s OBL unit, to say that he was certain they were experimenting with anthrax there in 2002 and he urged the President to bomb them (but the Administration was focused instead on invasion).

As far as the suppression of information, there is lots being suppressed for the normal investigative reasons, according to one postal inspector, but no cover-up. It becomes a bit more problematic when someone working closely with OBL’s religious mentor had a top security clearance and had access to the Center for Biodefense facilities and the American Type Culture Collection. By an email, ATCC does not deny it had Ames in its patent repository (as distinguished from its online catalog).

I agree that the connections between AQ and Iraq warrant close examination — such as Ayman Zawahiri’s trip to Baghdad (I believe it was for the son’s birthday in 1998, rather than in 2000). Any Iraqi assistance on technical aspects could be extremely low-key and under the radar.

But given that no one has even noticed that Ali Timimi had access to the Center for Biodefense and ATCC facilities (and had a security clearance), it seems that should be a key line of inquiry. Occam’s Razor and all. The Washington Post reported on this line of thought by the FBI in October 2006 in an article “Hardball Tactics in an Era of Threats.”

You write:

“The fact the US government says he wasn’t able to identify a biological attack that cost the lived of 5 people and costs more than 1 billions to American taxpayers is pure joke.”

The AG says that the FBI Director Mueller expects “some sort of resolution” in the “relatively near future.”

It’s surprising that reporter had confirmed or debunked the report by an Afghan governor Sherzai that the Taliban minister Hanif had packets of anthrax and planned to mail them to government officials — the report was in January.

My own personal view is that the capture of al-Hadi, Ayman Zawahiri’s chief aide at one point, upon his attempt to return to his home country Iraq late last year, has permitted a breakthrough in Amerithrax. Although Al Qaeda’s anthrax program was highly compartmentalized, he had interaction with both Ayman and OBL, and the Weekly Standard referred to him as Ayman’s “caretaker” at one point. So maybe he has answers even if KSM and Hambali didn’t. He was a longtime jihadist in Afghanistan and had been a major in Saddam’s army.

But, as I said, there is no evidence of Saddam’s involvement in anthrax and lots of information bearing on where there know-how came from, to include documentary evidence (such as the uploaded correspondence between Ayman Zawahiri and a scientist he had on a mission to obtain pathogenic anthrax

The Defense Intelligence Agency gave me the documents along with 100 pages from Ayman’s anthrax planning documents. The correspondence is uploaded in the section: “I successfully achieved the targets.”

http:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com


14 posted on 05/09/2007 2:16:30 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: drzz
Experts link Iraq before both 9/11 and the anthrax attacks which remained unsolved.

"Experts" also link the anthrax attacks to the Bush administration, to al Qaeda, to Russia, to Israel, to the CIA, to at least a DOZEN Americans who have been associated with anthrax in some way, and there's probably an "expert" with perfect credentials somewhere who believes that aliens from outer space sent the anthrax.

The one thing we should have all learned from discussions about the anthrax attacks is that most so-called "experts" don't concern themselves with facts; they begin with a belief, and, whenever necessary, they twist and distort the facts to fit that belief. Otherwise they just state their beliefs and ignore the facts altogether.

That would certainly be true of any "expert" who still believes Iraq was behind the anthrax attacks -- or al Qaeda. The facts say such a belief is just plain ridiculous.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

15 posted on 05/09/2007 2:26:07 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: drzz

Bookmarked for future reference


16 posted on 05/09/2007 2:30:38 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: ZacandPook

Don’t blame the CIA and FBI.
We had to deal with Gorelick’s Wall.
That’s why they failed.

IT’S THE WALL!

If the Democrats take the WH...they will put that wall right back up.

We can not treat terrorism as a law enforcement problem.


17 posted on 05/09/2007 2:52:15 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

In a different thread today, Ed says he reported some guy to the FBI. This is the profile of the guy:

He watches Bill OReilly on the Fox News Channel.

Divorced.

Small child with visitation rights with the child.

Used the child to address the envelopes and to write the letters.

Perhaps Mr. O’Reilly could call out to the guy tonight and tell him to stand down or else we’re going to make his kid clean the erasers after school.

Analysis instead is best organized around a consideration of the Means, Motive, Modus Operandi and Opportunity of the crime.

I. Anthrax and the Vanguards of Conquest
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/

This is a chronologically-ordered summary. There has been a steady accumulation of evidence supporting an AQ theory, as over the months and years, new evidence of AQ’s anthrax capability evolved.

II. Means: Al Qaeda’s Biochem Program Codenamed Yogurt
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#Zabadi

This is based on documentary evidence and interrogations of defendants at the Return of the Albanians trial in 1999 in Cairo. You won’t find any memos written by fans of Bill O’Reilly planning on sending an alarm — just memos between the folks involved in the plan to use weaponized anthrax against US targets in retaliation for the rendering of EIJ leaders.

a. The 1999 Announcement of Zawahiri’s Quest to Weaponize Anthrax
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#1999Announcement

AQ/Ayman has announced its intention — announced its motive. So we can cross “motive” off the list. That’s a no-brainer. Attorney Al Zayat, the blind sheik’s attorney, has said it was to retaliate against the rendering of former EIJ leaders.

b. Zawahiri’s April/May 1999 Emails To Al Qaeda’s Military Commander Atef
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#ZawahirisemailstoAtef

Atef was killed in November 2001. Cross him off the list of operatives available to participate in a follow-up attack.

c. “I successfully achieved the targets”: Pakistan Scientist Rauf Ahmad’s Assistance in 1999 and 2000
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#Mid-1999%20Documents

The Pakistan ISI hasn’t cooperated with the FBI on this since early 2003. I named the guy in 2002 along with Sufaat but Ed dismissed the suggestion both when I first pointed them out in 2002 and still today.

d. “You are dead! Bang”: Ayman’s Plan To Use Charities And Universities As Cover
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#PlantoUseCharitiesandUniversities

No flowery language like Ed thinks is required before it can be Al Qaeda in “You are dead! Bang” among the anthrax planning documents found in Afghanistan at the scene of a brainstorming seminar. Indeed, no flowery language when Atta came on the intercom and said “WE HAVE SOME PLANES.”

e. Al Qaeda’s 2001 Threat To Use Mailed Anthrax In Connection With Jailed EIJ Leader And Former Bin Laden Farm Manager Mahmoud Mahjoub
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#January2001threat

It was this that prompted the February 2001 PDB to President Bush about the CBRN efforts and the September 2001 report on the threat of mailed anthrax.
The White House knew of the anthrax threat not because of some sinister plot but because they knew there was anthrax planning being done in parallel with the other planned specular attacks.

f. Taliban’s Interest In The Anthrax Vaccine Laboratory
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#TalibanInterestinVaccineLab

The interest of Taliban ministers is especially interesting given the claim by an Afghan governor that a Taliban minister was captured recently with packets of anthrax intended for mailing to government officials. The same guy says the Pakistan ISI is protecting Mullah Omar.

g. Hambali, Anthrax Lab Tech Yazid Sufaat, and Ayman’s Anthrax Bomb Maker
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#HambaliandSufaat

It can’t be that the FBI did not know of Sufaat’s central role until 2003 as the President claims. The FBI didn’t interview him until November 2002 (Malaysia was not cooperating and Mueller needed to press them personally) and then only spent 30 minutes asking questions. But Sufaat’s role was obvious in 2002. Perhaps they just mean that he began to talk more freely once Hambali was talking, Barq and Wahdan (Sufaat’s assistants) were captured in 2003 etc.

h. March 2003 Seizure of Anthrax Production Documents On KSM’s Laptop and Arrest of Bacteriologist Dr. Abdul Qudus Khan
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxc.html#KSMandAbdulQuduusKhan

I guess at some point Ed gave up arguing that AQ did not have the means. So you can cross “means” off the list.

i. 2003 Capture of Hambali and Sufaat’s Assistants, and the Seizure of Extremely Virulent Anthrax
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxb.html#ExtremelyVirulent

j. 2007 Capture of Taliban Spokesman With Anthrax Packets Intended For Mailing To Government Officials
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxb.html#TalibanSpokesmanPacketsofAnthrax

This report has neither been confirmed nor debunked. Fascinating that no reporter doesn’t make it a point to do so.

III. Motive: Reason Senators Leahy and Daschle and the Media Were Targeted

a. The Anthrax Letters: “Written In Language You Can Understand”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Motive

b. Profile of an Angry Man: Ayman
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#ProfileofAnAngry

Ed’s theory is really no different than Barbara Rosenberg’s theory — who he harshly criticizes. He just fills in the detail with someone other than Dr. Hatfill. But all his arguments against her theory applies equally as to his own theory. A patriot sounding the alarm is simply not a motive to commit murder.

c. FBI: “Think 9/11.” “Think Oklahoma City.”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Profile

Hm... This quote by FBI Director Mueller about who the FBI thinks is responsible says it all. How does Ed understand “Think 9/11” to mean “a patriot sound an alarm”? or call an emergency parent-teacher conference?

d. Significance of Mailing Dates: Camp David Accord and Sadat’s Assassination
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Mailing%20Dates

AQ doesn’t usually plan attacks based on dates. But Ayman/Vanguards of Conquest (the military wing of the EIJ) do plan their messages around dates and anniversaries. Indeed, Ayman has taken to expressly explaining the anniversary.

e. “Leahy Law” and Appropriations to Military and Security Units
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Leahy%20Law

Leahy thinks AQ did it. See quote about plane that invaded Capitol airspace. He wasn’t concerned that some patriot was back sounding another alarm.

f. Zawahiri’s View of the “Lies” of the Secular Media
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#Secular%20Media

g. “Release Him”: Retaliation for Detention of the Blind Sheikh and Other Detainees
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxd.html#RetaliationforDetention

Most of the terrorist matters have involved folks inspired by the Blind Sheik’s detention.

IV. Modus Operandi: “Pouring Musk on Barren Lands”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#PouringMuskonBarrenLand

The question of tactics has been the subject of sharp debate within the movement and this fact could be helpful in profilng. The perp would favor the view that felt bound by restrictions on the conduct of warfare.

a. Related 1996 Letter Bombs to DC and New York Papers and Symbolic Targets
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#EarlierWTCBombs

This is highly probative as to modus operandi.

b. Targeted Assassination of Individuals in Symbolic Positions
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#TargetedAssassination

Ed used to argue that this was not Ayman’s modus operandi. He likely has abandoned in the face of the facts showing otherwise. So we can scratch off this argument as to “modus operandi”

c. Requirement Under Laws of Jihad of Warning Before Using Nonconventional Weapons
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#RequirementofWarning

This is the one Ed simply does not get and he never discusses the merits — such as the book the first EIJ leader is coming out, as noticed in today’s press. That guy’s lawyer is Al-Zayat, the one who explained in March 1999 (it was March 1999, not 1998, as I said earlier in the thread) who said that Ayman would use anthrax against US targets to retaliation for the rendering of EIJ leaders. And so once again the motive has already been announced in advance.

d. Continuing Practice of Sending Poisonous Letters as Threats
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#ContinuingPractice

One using hydrazine sent during a trial said “Set our brothers free. Bastards.” No flowery Arabic phrasing there, Ed.

e. Use of Code:

Jennifer Lopez Letter and Atta’s Jenny Code
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#JennyCode

TrebleRebel once posted a brilliant picture relating to Ramzi’s code for 9/11 which is even more relevant now (along with his Jenny code) now that Ramzi is said by Tenet to be a CBRN player. Ed says the letters show it was not AQ when actually the letters show exactly the opposite.

“School”
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#GreendaleSchoolCode

Given that “school” was Ayman’s code for EIJ, the anthrax mailer is either EIJ or an intel insider (or both).

“In the Hearts of Green Birds” (Inside Green Birds)
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#HeartsofGreenBirds

Go ahead. Click to see a blown up picture of the stamp. Now that Ramzi, Tenet says, was CBRN, his explanation of the “Green Birds”symbolism is even more significant. You won’t find a big picture of this baby on Ed’s website.

KSM and Clouds (Al-Sahab)
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#KSMandClouds

Oh, did I tell you the first anthrax letter had “clouds” pictured on it and Ayman’s and KSM’s group is called Sahab — meaning “Clouds”?

Allusion to Atta and Genomic Sequencing of the Ames Strain
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#Double-liningofA’sandT’s

Hmmm... any OBL supporter read GENOME TECHNOLOGY at his trial like we read NEWSWEEK?

f. Summer 2001 Inquiries About Cropdusters and Helicopters

Given the strict compartmentalization, even someone making inquiries for this purpose would be generally left in the dark.

g. KSM’s Plan to Poison A Reservoir
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#KSM’sReservoirPlot

KSM likely would only target an embassy (for example, with cyanide). He’d go to hell if he poisoned a water supply serving children (and based on his statement before the tribunal he seems to ascribe to that view). So his direction to Majid Khan to research the subject perhaps related to poisoning localized water supplies, such as a supply serving a military base.

h. Poisoned Penpal: The Murder of Chechen Rebel Leader Ibn Khattab
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#IbnKhattab

If senior FBI officials had understood the importance of Ibn Khattab, they would have move forwarded with a FISA warrant of Moussaoui’s computer. Elzahabi came from Ibn Khattab in mid-August 2001. If his laptop had been accessed, perhaps 9/11 would have been avoided.

V. Opportunity: Tracking Potential Al Qaeda or Egyptian Islamic Jihad or Islamic Group Supporters

a. Fall 2001 Greenlight of Biological Attack By US-Based Operatives
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#AQFall2001ClaimReUSBasedBio

This claim of responsibility is fun. It claims that the greenlighted attack will be by operatives with access to US government and intelligence information. It was seized years ago but not released until 2006. Zawahiri discusses a different document at the same West Point website in his new video. You won’t find Ed linking the document on his website because he wants to deny that there was any claim of responsibility.

b. Know Not Just Your Enemy, But Who He Knew
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxay.html#KnowNotJustYourEnemy

One by one, they’ve been arrested.

c. Egyptian Scientist In The Library Researching Contaminants in Drinking Water
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxdu.html#AttaandAlMarabh

Serious secrecy on this issue, folks.

d. Kandahar souvenir: Hijacker Ahmed’s Blackened Leg Lesion
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxdu.html#leglesion

Ed has never mentioned the fact that Ahmed had just come from Kandahar where the extremely virulent anthrax was found.

e. Astonishing Aafia
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaedaanthraxdu.html#AstonishingAafia

An AUSA says Aafia would participate in an anthrax attack if asked.

f. Hoax Letters That May Fly As Real Thing
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#hoaxletters

Any bad guys in St. Petersburg area at the time? (Answer: Yes, to include Adnan El-Shukrijumah, for whom a BOLO was issued along with Aafia).

g. Access to the Ames Strain
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#AmesStrain

Of 16 labs in the US known to have Ames, authorities narrowed it genetically to 4 labs.

h. Made in the USA: The Cell Culture
AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY BEYOND THIS POINT

VI. The Sheiks and the Bioweaponeers
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#SheikandtheBioweaponeers


18 posted on 05/09/2007 3:11:31 PM PDT by ZacandPook (http//:www.anthraxandalqaeda.com)
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To: EdLake

I saw your website. What is your occupation...may I ask?
Are you a Microbiologist or in Forensic Medicine?

These recent articles about the Anthrax Mystery is so interesting.


19 posted on 05/09/2007 3:18:12 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: drzz

placemarker


20 posted on 05/09/2007 3:36:08 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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