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jedward | 05/09/2007 | jedward

Posted on 05/09/2007 12:10:40 PM PDT by jedward


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1 posted on 05/09/2007 12:10:43 PM PDT by jedward
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To: jedward

Tch tch.... You obviously didn’t get the memo from Rudy. He more or less said that we needed to let people know what we are for and not what we are against!


2 posted on 05/09/2007 12:16:08 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: jedward

He seems to be doing a pretty good job of stopping himself lately.


3 posted on 05/09/2007 12:16:09 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: jedward

bump


4 posted on 05/09/2007 12:16:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: jedward

Rudy has shown himself to be remarkably adept at stepping in piles of poo. Anything we can do to make sure there are more piles available for him to step in is a good thing, I reckon.


5 posted on 05/09/2007 12:18:14 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Kevmo; Delphinium; WorkerbeeCitizen; Jim Robinson; NapkinUser; Spiff; Knitting A Conundrum; Liz; ...

Ping


6 posted on 05/09/2007 12:20:37 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket. The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.

Besides, it’s time to get the abortion issue off the table, because abortions will continue no matter who wins in 2008.

I don’t like his donations to Planned Parenthood either, and I prefer Thompson, but Rudy is the only guy who can take on both the media and their darling candidate Hillary.

I want us to win and I can’t stand the thought of Hillary as President.

7 posted on 05/09/2007 12:20:45 PM PDT by detch
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

Baloney.

The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.

So who on the Republican ticket ever had the MSM on their side? Nixon? Reagan? Dole? Bush Sr? Jr? Or ever will have the MSM on their side?

8 posted on 05/09/2007 12:23:47 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: detch

Who told you that crap and who taught you how to loose? Any good honest conservative can beat both of them.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 12:24:49 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: detch
Guiliani can't win the general election, no matter what hype you;re hearing. There's no way he holds enough of the "right" to stand a chance, and he's the one candidate Clinton's negatives wouldn't stand out so great against.

Even if by some miracle he would win, he'd have negative "coattails" due to the depressed conservative turnout, and would just be rubber-stamping the Democrat agenda anyway.

10 posted on 05/09/2007 12:25:27 PM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompsn)
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To: detch

He is not the only one who can beat Hillary. He is not a conservative but is as liberal as any democrat. We do not need or want him anywhere near the White House.


11 posted on 05/09/2007 12:25:38 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: jedward

Good job jedward.


12 posted on 05/09/2007 12:26:08 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: jedward
A campaign to stop an otherwise fairly strong candidate, in a crowded field, is more likely to help him--by giving him more apparent significance to the many who do not analyze but rally to someone well known to them--than to "stop" him. I would suggest that you help promote a candidate, whom you really like--if any,--rather than simply oppose Rudy.

I am trying to promote Congressman Paul, with a fall back to Congressman Tancredo--not just because the front-runners are too "Liberal"--but because, Paul and Tancredo are genuinely good, decent and traditionally minded-Americans, who would actually fight for what I believe in.

William Flax

13 posted on 05/09/2007 12:26:11 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: detch

Not true. And I want Thompson to run too but he’d better SH&^ of get off the pot.


14 posted on 05/09/2007 12:26:28 PM PDT by unionblue83 (Note to Dems:"Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser." -Gen. Patton)
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

All Hail St. Rudi of York. Dragon (and baby and gun) Slayer! Knight of the Loyal Order of the Ruby Slipper and Protector of the Illegal Invader.

Vote for Rudi if you wish detch. As for me and mine, He's a non-candidate.
15 posted on 05/09/2007 12:27:45 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket. The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.

In my view, whether it's McCain or Thompson or Romney, a candidate who can beat the MSM supported and well financed Guiliani can beat Hillary. I don't think Guiliani supporters will stay home. I don't think abortion is a problem, since it went in the platform in 1980 Republicans have been in the White House 19 of 27 years. What am I missing?

16 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:00 PM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

Sorry, not so pessimistic about our other options, sure Rudy has the best media attention, but you are giving Clintoon/Osama too much credit.. Frankly, I think even McCain could beat them.. but we have several on our side who, once they get the airtime, will do some damage.. look at how Romney shined in the last debate and how everyone is buzzing over Fred.. the entire country is on pins and needles wanting someone to get behind..

17 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:12 PM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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To: jedward

Wondered what you were up to. Thought maybe you were AWOL. LOL!


18 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:21 PM PDT by unionblue83 (Note to Dems:"Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser." -Gen. Patton)
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To: detch
I want us to win

I don't want Rudy, or you, to win. I want a conservative to win. You and Rudy are the opposition as much as the MSM and Hillary.

19 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:38 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: detch

Rudy may be the one Republican candidate with more negatives and skeletons than Hillary.


20 posted on 05/09/2007 12:30:08 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!)
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To: missnry

lol...I heard him.


21 posted on 05/09/2007 12:30:11 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Ohioan
A campaign to stop an otherwise fairly strong candidate, in a crowded field, is more likely to help him-

Very good point.. just like most boycotts.. all they do is give more attention to what is being boycotted..

22 posted on 05/09/2007 12:30:29 PM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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To: jedward

What y’all need is a willing candidate who can get some traction, not all this anti and negative stuff. Very unattractive.


23 posted on 05/09/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: wideawake

Yes, he has and it’s the conservative base turning the heat up as well.


24 posted on 05/09/2007 12:31:39 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: detch

Pig-in-a-poke refers to a scam originating in the late middle ages, when meat was scarce, but apparently rats and cats were not.

a program that pretends to do, or does, something useful, but which contains code that does something else - this can range from printing silly messages on your screen to trashing your hard drive - it’s the network equivalent of a virus

A software entity that appears to do something normal but which, in fact, contains a trapdoor or attack program.

Any program designed to do things that the user of the program did not intend to do or that disguises its harmful intent.

A type of infestation that hides or disguises itself as a useful program yet is designed to cause damage at a later time.


25 posted on 05/09/2007 12:31:47 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: detch

If you think Rudy is the best we’ve got to offer, we deserve to lose.


26 posted on 05/09/2007 12:33:24 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

And thank you WorkerBee. It takes people working together to get things done and moving forward. I’m just doing what I said I’d do in my moving forward points.


27 posted on 05/09/2007 12:33:28 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: kevkrom

“....he’s the one candidate Clinton’s negatives wouldn’t stand out so great against.”

You have probably put your finger on the exact reason the media helps him along like they do.....


28 posted on 05/09/2007 12:34:06 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: twonie
What y’all need is a willing candidate who can get some traction, not all this anti and negative stuff. Very unattractive.

That and the fact that such strong opposition from the far right makes Rudy even more attractive to the independents and moderates. In a way it may actually help him.

29 posted on 05/09/2007 12:34:13 PM PDT by MMcC
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To: detch
The MSM is on their side

If the MSDRivebyM is on his side, that in itself tells me Rudy is no Conservative.

Rudy is a fiscal conservative and social liberal.

30 posted on 05/09/2007 12:34:58 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

What a bunch of crap. The only way to LOSE to Clinton or Obama is to divide and split the Republican Party with a liberal like Rudy. With a liberal like Rudy--you lose the passion, enthusiasm, energy, and volunteer efforts of the traditional base.

If you want to DIVIDE AND SPLIT the Party WIDE OPEN,,,

a liberal like JulieAnnie is JUST THE MAN FOR THE JOB!!!

31 posted on 05/09/2007 12:35:50 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: jedward
With Hunter and Romney... and possibly Thompson... I got more than enough to chose from.
32 posted on 05/09/2007 12:36:19 PM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: jedward
"I’m just doing what I said I’d do in my moving forward points."

Yes you are :)

33 posted on 05/09/2007 12:36:32 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: Ohioan

Thanks for your input. I completely disagree with you on all points, except promoting another candidate. Click the link at the top to see the other candidates.

I’m quite busy with doing what I feel is right and the best thing for the Conservative Cause and the Nation at this point in time.


34 posted on 05/09/2007 12:38:08 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: twonie
not all this anti and negative stuff. Very unattractive.

Do you think it "unattractive" to use "anti and negative stuff" against the other liberals, such as Hillary?

35 posted on 05/09/2007 12:38:13 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: AuntB
I agree.

Liberal Republicans like JulieAnnie are MUCH MORE DANGEROUS than liberal democrats,,,,

because liberal Republicans BLUR THE DISTINCTION between liberalism and conservatism,,,

making LIBERALISM MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE!

36 posted on 05/09/2007 12:39:09 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: Prokopton

You want to think that one over? It’s like this: if there are not enough arch-conservatives, no matter how right they may be, they cannot win, however much we may want them to do so.


37 posted on 05/09/2007 12:41:06 PM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: twonie

“What y’all need is a willing candidate who can get some traction, not all this anti and negative stuff. Very unattractive.”

Well, go find yourself one and then promote them on your own thread. I’ll even provide you a link to a thread you might think is less negative and unattractive. My hat’s off to the freeper who took the time to help you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1829450/posts


38 posted on 05/09/2007 12:41:30 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: johnny7

Yep. I agree.


39 posted on 05/09/2007 12:43:06 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Prokopton

Actually, constant negativity gets you very little. It begins, after a while, to sound like nagging.


40 posted on 05/09/2007 12:44:25 PM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: detch

“”Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket. The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.
Besides, it’s time to get the abortion issue off the table, because abortions will continue no matter who wins in 2008.

I don’t like his donations to Planned Parenthood either, and I prefer Thompson, but Rudy is the only guy who can take on both the media and their darling candidate Hillary.

I want us to win and I can’t stand the thought of Hillary as President.””..........

I agree.

Rudy is the only one who can rip new ones both in the dems white flag hindies and the MSM. He’s just getting started.


41 posted on 05/09/2007 12:46:55 PM PDT by tkathy (Those who appease always get more killed than those who stand up to barbarism)
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To: jedward; FreeInWV; Reagan Man; Fierce Allegiance; EternalVigilance; B Knotts; Kimberly GG; Sun; ...
STOP RUDY 2008 PING!

Freepmail me to be added or removed from this ping list.

42 posted on 05/09/2007 12:50:05 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: detch

Ditto! If Hillary or Obama wins, all I can say, is God help America.


43 posted on 05/09/2007 12:50:23 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: tkathy
Rudy is the only one who can rip new ones both in the dems white flag hindies and the MSM. He’s just getting started.

Oh please. The man (and his staff) are clueless enough to float an excuse that donations to Planned Parenthood were to promote adoptions. Anyone that incompetent shouldn't even be running.

Let him defend his lousy record, rather than backpedal from it, before you start talking about what a courageous fighter he is.

44 posted on 05/09/2007 12:51:13 PM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompsn)
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To: detch

Blah blah blah Rudy is the only one blah blah blah who can beat blah blah blah Hillary blah blah the president can’t do anything about abortion blah blah blah someone pull the string in my back so I can utter another stupid Rudy talking point bla blah blah...


45 posted on 05/09/2007 12:52:35 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: tkathy
Rudy is the only one who can rip new ones both in the dems white flag hindies and the MSM.

The only one who is taking a-hurtin' from Rudy's mouth is Rudy.

46 posted on 05/09/2007 12:53:29 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: tkathy
I don't understand why there’s so many Rudy haters here. He is conservative enough for me, but then again, I think there’s more than just ABORTION voters are concerned about. Rudy has broad appeal that a all the other candidates DON'T HAVE.
47 posted on 05/09/2007 12:53:35 PM PDT by WallStsk8r (Ready to rock)
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To: detch

Wouldn’t be much difference in a Rudy Giuliani presidency or a Hillary Clinton one. Both are pro-abortion, pro-illegal alien, anti-second amendment and pro-gay special rights leftists.


48 posted on 05/09/2007 12:53:56 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: tkathy

Defeatism is no way to live. Rudy goes NOWWHERE.


49 posted on 05/09/2007 12:54:17 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: tkathy
I want us to win and I can’t stand the thought of Hillary as President.””.......... I agree. Rudy is the only one who can rip new ones both in the dems white flag hindies and the MSM. He’s just getting started.

Voting for a radical liberal to keep a radical liberal out of office is a dumbass thing to do.

The belief that Giuliani is the only candidate who can beat Hillary ranks right up there with belief in Bigfoot. It's a stupid myth believed by stupid people.

Go peddle your pro-liberal snake oil somewhere else.

50 posted on 05/09/2007 12:54:55 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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