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Howard Dean told Kansas Gov. Sebelius to Lie
Quinn & Rose Show ^ | 05/10/07 | Coffee260

Posted on 05/10/2007 11:53:51 AM PDT by coffee260

Dear Freepers,

Get a load of this:

I was listening to the Quinn & Rose show this morning on XM radio when Host, Jim Quinn told his audience that Howard Dean called Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius early, around 5 am, one morning after the tornado had destroyed the town of Greensburg, Kansas and discussed with her what to say about the tornado and how to blame the war in Iraq and the Bush administration on a slow response to the aftermath.

He also said that she, Gov. Sebelius, called Senator Sam Brownback's office only to learn he wasn't there but then called him on his cell phone and reached him while he was in his car were she confessed to him that she had been instructed by her party leadership, (more specifically, Howard Dean) on how to politicize the tornado's destruction of Greensburg and attack the White House and the Iraq war for a seemingly slow response. She reassured the Senator that her allegations didn't blame him or Pat Roberts, also a Kansas Senator, for the lack of immediate response.

That would explain her public statements to the press that proved later to be untrue. She made statements to the effect that the Iraq war and the deployment of the national guard units to Iraq from her state has left Kansas without the equipment and man power needed to respond more quickly to the tornado's aftermath. This all turns out to be false and the governor herself has back tracked on her own claims.

Mr. Quinn also revealed that she confessed to Brownback that she couldn't pass up such an opportunity like this to attack the President whose approval ratings, in this hostile political climate, is so low.

These revelations are startling and if true should call into question the governors competence and her judgment. Quinn adamantly stressed that his source, who he didn't name because he was sure it would jeopardize his job, was extremely reliable and in a position that would give him direct knowledge of these revelations.


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UPDATE: For what it's worth, I just received an email from Quinn where he says, about his source, "i just got off the phone with my source. solid."

Maybe someone knows how to get the audio from the segment of this mornings Quinn & Rose show.

1 posted on 05/10/2007 11:53:55 AM PDT by coffee260
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To: coffee260

Go to warroom.com. He archives everything. But I think you have to join.

BTW, this has been posted twice today, but your is the most expansive.

Thanks


2 posted on 05/10/2007 11:56:49 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: coffee260

Seems these Quinn & Rose folks are sitting on a HUGE story, and should have the sense to sent it to the news media (which in turn buys them good exposure).


3 posted on 05/10/2007 11:57:07 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: coffee260
This needs to be sent to all the conservative talk radio hosts. Everyone has been theorizing that this is exactly what happened.

It will not surprise anyone; however to have what may be a solid source would certainly validate what the Dems are trying to do — not just ruin Bush, but the entire country with all their lies and slurs.

4 posted on 05/10/2007 12:00:12 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: coffee260

Howard and the Dims are not even worthy to lick a New York subway toliet clean.


5 posted on 05/10/2007 12:02:58 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: coffee260
You can get the streaming audio from their website, but it is restricted to members only. They do give out free memberships to anyone in the armed services who is on active duty, so if you know anyone in Iraq, you might try that route.

I heard this part of the show on the drive in this morning. The audio, coupled with the governor's backtracking and body language, made the claims very credible.

Hopefully, Fox or Savage or Hannity will pick it up soon and get this story out nationwide. If her dishonor the governor can't stand up to Howard Dean and MoveOn.Org, she deserves to be embarassed big time.

6 posted on 05/10/2007 12:04:14 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: coffee260

I emailed the story to Rush via the 24/7 email link. Rush went into it on the show but without verifiable facts he just tiptoed around “the Party” told the Governor what to say. I sure hope the source goes public or it will doe a quick death.

If Brownback is letting the Kansas Governor get away with this behavior he is just a bad.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 12:06:37 PM PDT by Republican Red (The word "courage" is not in the liberal vocabulary)
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To: coffee260
Mr. Quinn also revealed that she [Gov. Sebelius] confessed to Brownback that she couldn't pass up such an opportunity like this to attack the President whose approval ratings, in this hostile political climate, is so low.

Sure, a liberal Democratic Governor is going to call up a conservative Republican Senator and 'confess' to an opportunistic attack against the leader of the senator's party. Riiight.

8 posted on 05/10/2007 12:06:43 PM PDT by Grut
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To: theDentist
I guess I should set a dollar aside and run out tomorrow morning to get a copy of the New York Times to see this subversive political ploy analyzed in full on their front page.

On second thought, it might not be there and that dollar could go to a conservative candidate for higher office. I think that despite my faith in the NYT, I will have to settle for a donation to the candidate of my choice.

9 posted on 05/10/2007 12:07:50 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: coffee260

I like Quinn, very much, but he is also likely to believe in sources who might not be 100% reliable.

From the way this sounds, this is a source in the Brownback staff — probably the presidential campaign, as they would be newer and more likely to leak than long-time staffers.


10 posted on 05/10/2007 12:08:21 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: coffee260

http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=1646

Governor caught politicizing Kansas
The governor of Kansas was on a radio station this morning being interviewed and she admitted to politicizing the tornado and blaming Bush and the federal government for lack of response. A stark reminder of Katrina when the governor blamed the Bush administration for everything under the sun.

I heard on the local radio yesterday a man blaming the federal government for not doing anything to shore up the levees and causing the floods in Missouri. Since when is it the job of the feds to take care of local issues? Like the levees in New Orleans millions upon millions of federal dollars were sent to shore up levees and for flood control. It is and was the locals to include state government that spent that money for other projects and failed in the responsibility to protect the people. FEMA and the federal government respond only after they are declared a disaster area and are asked for help.

Bush was on the phone asking the governor if she needed anything just a few hours after these tornados and she said she didn’t need anything. Then the politics started. What a bunch of crap and these people need to be held accountable for what they say and do.

Democrat Governor caught politicizing Kansas

A brief summary: A source apparently close to the situation has told Quinn that Sebelius called Brownback shortly after she made the Katrina-like statement to the press to apologize. She allegedly told Brownback that she had been instructed by Howard Dean and Dick (Durbin?) to blame the fictional “lack of response” to the hurricane on the absence of National Guard troops and equipment, which had been diverted to Iraq (not true).

She said she would not have said these things “unless she had to,” and that she was told not to pass up an opportunity like this.

KS Governor Sebilius (D) said:

1. Howard Dean called me at 5AM this morning and said we needed to “use this”.
2. [Senator] Dick [Durbin] called about two hours later and told me not to ask for federal help.
3. We had “too many” National Guard personnel


11 posted on 05/10/2007 12:10:54 PM PDT by Republican Red (The word "courage" is not in the liberal vocabulary)
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To: AmishDude

That’s possible.


12 posted on 05/10/2007 12:11:20 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: Grut

She might call up a powerful politician to try to make sure he doesn’t blame her. Never overestimate the incompetence of a third-rate Democrat hack politician.


13 posted on 05/10/2007 12:11:38 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: coffee260

If this is true, the Republicans better a) call for an investigation, b) subponea the DNC’s and the Gov’s records, and c) expose this immediately.

It’s time to go after Dean the way the left has been after Gonzo et al.!!!!!


14 posted on 05/10/2007 12:13:35 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Voters can't vote out the rats if the media doesn't tell them what they're up to.)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Howard and the Dims are not even worthy to lick a New York subway toilet clean.

You shouldn't tempt them. Some Democratic constituencies view that as recreational sex.

15 posted on 05/10/2007 12:13:45 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Republican Red

I emailed Rush as well. I also emailed many others that have some reach. I think they are hesitant because the source is so thin.


16 posted on 05/10/2007 12:16:29 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: AmishDude

Oops. That’s either “overestimate the competence” or “underestimate the incompetence”.

This doesn’t suprise me. It’s such a ham-handed attempt at politization that she’s dealing with things the way a Democrat hack would: Call all of the little chieftains and make sure they don’t make hay.


17 posted on 05/10/2007 12:17:13 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: coffee260

What is so ridiculous about her statement is that they have two active Army Post in Kansas, Fort Riley and Fort Leavenworth. So even if her statement were true it would have taken one telephone call to each post commander and her National Guard would have been lent the necessary equipment.


18 posted on 05/10/2007 12:18:27 PM PDT by Rogle
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To: coffee260

Agreed. The blog posted above is the ony “published” account of the story. I just emailed it to Drudge.

Without a real journalist investigating the story it will go nowhere.


19 posted on 05/10/2007 12:20:13 PM PDT by Republican Red (The word "courage" is not in the liberal vocabulary)
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To: AmishDude

I hate to think this is being dismissed out of hand just because somebody isn’t quite sure. You have to be able to stand up even if it turns out you’re wrong. Look at Matt Drudge. Speaking of Mr. Drudge, I wonder how he missed this one.


20 posted on 05/10/2007 12:23:02 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Rogle
Leavenworth has military schools and the USDB, but your point is well taken. Plus, Kansas has reciprocity agreements with the surrounding states' Guards, so they had plenty of capacity available.

But, really, as terrible as that tragedy was, how many assets do you need to serve 1500 displaced people and clean up the wreckage from a town that small?

21 posted on 05/10/2007 12:23:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: KC Burke

I’ll match your dollar with a donation to my fave as well. :)


22 posted on 05/10/2007 12:24:05 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Grut

I was paraphrasing when I wrote this. So whether I got everything exactly right is too be seen. I do think I pretty much pegged it though. But without a transcript or audio, that’s all I can do.


23 posted on 05/10/2007 12:25:25 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: Past Your Eyes
The fact is, this is small-time. Obama's "gaffe" on this issue was so huge, that nobody's noticing anything else. That is the way the truth is getting out. If we never know the truth, it will be no big loss.

It is an interesting pattern, started with Lawton Chiles to refuse help from the feds and then blame feds for not helping.

24 posted on 05/10/2007 12:26:23 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: coffee260

As a Kansan, I never voted for her. What a lowlife disgusting thing to do when my neighbors are hurting if this turns out to be true.


25 posted on 05/10/2007 12:26:56 PM PDT by Salthawk
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To: coffee260

Will this make the msm? Never.


26 posted on 05/10/2007 12:27:12 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: coffee260; All

This is just stupid. I am sorry, but BROWNBACK WOULD NOT KEEP THIS QUIET.

Maybe she was told to say this, but there is not a chance in hell she talked to Brownback.


27 posted on 05/10/2007 12:27:54 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: colorado tanker

Not much but I was thinking more along the lines of medical equipment and combat engineer equipment.


28 posted on 05/10/2007 12:28:08 PM PDT by Rogle
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To: Republican Red
1. Howard Dean called me at 5AM this morning and said we needed to “use this”. 2. [Senator] Dick [Durbin] called about two hours later and told me not to ask for federal help. 3. We had “too many” National Guard personnel

Sounds like the same scenario in New Orleans. Blame Bush for not responding immediately when the Gov didn't even request help.

If this is true these people should be removed from office and run out of the state.

29 posted on 05/10/2007 12:29:06 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: colorado tanker

An interesting side note Google Earth released a template yesterday with good resolution and you can see that the city has lot’s of volunteers in it right now. Also on Ft. Riley they have the very large equipment yards that hold trucks and trailers etc for the KsNG, most of the armored vehicles are gone but quite a few of the trucks are still there(as of mid 2006 google image), you can check this by going to Google Earth and going by the Ogden Gate you will see a large motor pool, the equipment furthest east inside that area is dedicated to the KSNG.


30 posted on 05/10/2007 12:31:07 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Rogle

What a maroon...
Didn’t she think this would catch up to her?


31 posted on 05/10/2007 12:31:28 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: enough_idiocy
If this is true, the Republicans better a) call for an investigation, b) subponea the DNC’s and the Gov’s records, and c) expose this immediately.

I agree. The 'rats do not wait for verification before accusation. They are aware that whatever's out there first is what people remember.

Of course the conservative side of an issue would not get the drumbeat of publicity that the 'rats get. In fact, the MSM would immediately defend the left or even attack us for accusing. It's the seriousness of the charge, dontcha know?

32 posted on 05/10/2007 12:31:57 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Salthawk

You in Hutch? I just noticed your Salthawk nickname.


33 posted on 05/10/2007 12:32:14 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Grut

Sebelius might. She’s as stupid as she is leftist.


34 posted on 05/10/2007 12:34:23 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Past Your Eyes

Listen to Hannity, NOW!


35 posted on 05/10/2007 12:37:19 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: coffee260

Listen to Hannity! Quinn & Rose is on there right now!


36 posted on 05/10/2007 12:38:15 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: coffee260

Please update us office bounds on the interview.


37 posted on 05/10/2007 12:42:05 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (All the credentials in the world posted on the wall will not make a person a decent human being.)
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To: griswold3
Either she is a maroon or she figured if she did not say what Dean wanted her to say she would not get funding from the DNC for re-election.
38 posted on 05/10/2007 12:43:30 PM PDT by Rogle
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To: Anti-Hillary

I was just going to say they’re not fit to clean out a peep-show booth in Newark, but your suggestion is pretty good.


39 posted on 05/10/2007 12:45:25 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: rwfromkansas

Oh, please. Brownback is a gentleman, not a RAT. He may confirm this, but he wouldn’t break it.


40 posted on 05/10/2007 12:45:31 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Rogle

What is so ridiculous about her statement is that they have two active Army Post in Kansas,

Fort Riley and Fort Leavenworth.

So even if her statement were true it would have taken one telephone call to each post commander and her National Guard would have been lent the necessary equipment.

Repeat!!!


41 posted on 05/10/2007 12:46:39 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: Rogle

This is her second and last term. She is one of the few if a man is the democrat presidential candidate who will be considered as a running-mate for him, if she repeated what was said it is to protect her own future in the DNC and politics.


42 posted on 05/10/2007 12:47:52 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: aft_lizard

With Katrina, there was at least a problem, the issue being who messed up. This is just totally made up by the Dims and MSM.


43 posted on 05/10/2007 12:48:39 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: coffee260

What I am hearing-

Sebelius was actually on site in Greensburg Saturday, but, kept a low media profile.
Only activated small parts of the KSARNG and KSANG originally.
Did not ask the WH to activate the majority until late on Sunday-the majority did not arrive until late Monday-after her press conferences and media blitz.
They have plenty of men and equipment on site.
The media must get a timeline from the WH as to when Sebelius requested NG activation and a timeline from the Governor’s office as to when she first came to Greensburg.
If this is true, she should be impeached.


44 posted on 05/10/2007 12:48:52 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: coffee260

Hannity just talked to Quinn and Rose. I’m going to save this link on my links page here, as well as blog about it.


45 posted on 05/10/2007 12:52:14 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Consult your doctor before taking tagline. Do not take tagline with alcohol.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Well can anybody update us on what was said on the Hannity show?


46 posted on 05/10/2007 12:52:47 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: AmishDude

So did Obama go to the Ray Nagin (spelling?) School of Counting Math for Politicians?

Or is 10,000 just a nice round number that Democrats like to use when they’re talking about tragedies? Even if the number is way over the top wrong!!!

Between Obama and Durbin, I think our Illinois senators are without any great moral compasses. Either one of them.


47 posted on 05/10/2007 1:00:00 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: texgal

Please don’t send them to Illinois. We have way too many just like them.


48 posted on 05/10/2007 1:00:48 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: Rogle

Hopefully she won’t have to “worry” about re-election. Maybe her biggest concern will be about lying and how to save herself from being impeached.

Or repealed or whatever they do to lying governors. But then, politicians never lie, do they?


49 posted on 05/10/2007 1:03:17 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: janereinheimer
Please don’t send them to Illinois. We have way too many just like them.

Ain't that the truth!!!

50 posted on 05/10/2007 1:05:15 PM PDT by Marathoner
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