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Rudy's Party -- or Reagan's?
Townhall.com ^ | 11 May 2007 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 05/11/2007 12:39:35 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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Rudy's nomination spells the end for the GOP - and another Clinton presidency!!!
1 posted on 05/11/2007 12:39:38 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher
I read a book, over the last week, by Patrick J. Buchanan. It was called “Death of the West.” It was, by my measure, the most honest and fact-based testament about the coming future. I am forever a fan and reader.
2 posted on 05/11/2007 12:43:50 AM PDT by TxCopper
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"A Rudy nomination would bring the culture war right down onto the floor of the Republican convention. For Rudy is not only pro-choice on abortion, he has supported affirmative action, favored amnesty for illegals, turned New York into a sanctuary city where the NYPD was forbidden to ask arrestees their immigration status, has championed gay rights, marched in gay pride parades"

Ron Paul:

--STRONGLY pro-life

--Favors massive increases in the coast guard, port security, and border security. Wants to deport those here illegally.

--Against affirmative action

--Voted to ammend Constitution defining marriage as between a man and woman.

--Wants dramatic reductions in government spending and taxation at home.

Let's get behind Ron Paul.

3 posted on 05/11/2007 12:47:44 AM PDT by Capitalism2003 (`)
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To: Capitalism2003

He sounds good BUT few have ever heard of him.


4 posted on 05/11/2007 12:52:13 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Capitalism2003

No thanks

Check out this item from yesterday

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/225943.php

May 10, 2007
Ron Paul Aligns With Rosie O’Donnell: US Government Will Phony Up New Gulf of Tonkin Incident To Contrive A War With Iran


5 posted on 05/11/2007 12:54:47 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

It is WAY too early for the media to be having him as the shoe-in GOP candidate. We WILL get someone who is acceptable. No one can be another Ronnie....but they can at least aspire to be and hold like values.


6 posted on 05/11/2007 12:55:29 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Aussie Dasher

There’s video of Ron Paul in Post 5, posted by Ace of Spades. It’s not good.

There’s more on the item from HotAir
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/10/video-ron-paul-bircheresque-crank/


7 posted on 05/11/2007 1:01:36 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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Rudy has no chance of getting the nomination.


8 posted on 05/11/2007 1:29:33 AM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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I sure hope you’re right!


9 posted on 05/11/2007 1:33:58 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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Rudy’s nomination would spell the end for Rudy if’n he’s a Roman Catholic. The pope and the powers that be are glacialy moving in the direction of enforcing a non-communion ban on apostate politicians who are pro-abortion.


10 posted on 05/11/2007 1:34:23 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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I’m registered as an independent. If the GOP chooses Rudy as their candidate they can be certain they won’t be getting my vote. As Rudy supporters attempt to triangulate “moderate” votes that such a candidate might net them they better be sure to account for conservative and Christian voters such as myself who they will be losing.
11 posted on 05/11/2007 1:37:42 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Capitalism2003

Pre-9/11, I’d go for Ron Paul.

Not post 9/11. Noninterventionism isn’t viable anymore.

I’ve got my conservative in Duncan Hunter.


12 posted on 05/11/2007 2:05:39 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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For Reagan's party was a pro-life party. Life defined the man. Life defined the movement he led. It was Reagan who insisted that his speechwriters include mention of the life issue in every State of the Union. At one lunch with senior staff, Reagan choked up as he read a letter from a woman who said she daily thanked God she had not had an abortion 45 years before, as she had considered doing, as now the son she had borne was taking care of her in her old age.

Good lord. After all these year's, Pat Buchanan's finally written something sane, rational and true.

God bless the Law of Averages.

13 posted on 05/11/2007 2:13:49 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: Aussie Dasher

It’s a rare occasion when I find myself agreeing with Pat Buchanan. This is one of them.


14 posted on 05/11/2007 2:22:45 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("There'll never be another Ronald Reagan." - Fred Thompson)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL


15 posted on 05/11/2007 2:23:07 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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16 posted on 05/11/2007 3:23:25 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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If it becomes Rudys party then it is time for a new REAL conservative party.


17 posted on 05/11/2007 3:30:34 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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After reading Fred Thompson’s legal intrepretation as well as Rudy Giuliani’s legal intrepretation, how are those intrepretations of abortion different? Giuliani has already defined the type of SC Justice he would nominate. And he hasn’t changed his own personal beliefs unlike some candidates. As far as I’m concerned William Kristol and his cabal of media pundits can go to hell along with McCain.


18 posted on 05/11/2007 3:32:20 AM PDT by ridge
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“After reading Fred Thompson’s legal intrepretation as well as Rudy Giuliani’s legal intrepretation, how are those intrepretations of abortion different? Giuliani has already defined the type of SC Justice he would nominate. And he hasn’t changed his own personal beliefs unlike some candidates. As far as I’m concerned William Kristol and his cabal of media pundits can go to hell along with McCain.”

Rudy’s NARAL rating————100%

Fred thompson’s NARAL rating———0%

Nuff said.

Let’s look at what’s going on while Fred’s “mulling” his decision.

Rudy’s had a miserable last two weeks/month. He’s had the revelation of the six Planned Parenthood donations which effectively nixed his attempt to be seen as at least neutral on the abortion question. It’s gone so badly that apparently he’s decided to go ALL IN WITH A 2-7 OFFSUIT and proclaim proudly his support for the pro-choice position effectively ruining him with the base. His candidacy is imploding.

Mitt Romney, despite his 1st Quarter fundraising, is still mired in forth or fifth place (7% and 5th in the latest Marist poll) and had the revelation of his own/wife’s donation from their JOINT CHECKING ACCOUNT to the primary supporter of infanticide——a fact that will only increase suspicion of him as a johnny-come-lately “conservative” and a political chamelon only too ready to say anything to anybody to get their vote.

McCain? Well he doesn’t appear to be going anywhere, up or down but he’s done little to increase his appeal outside of his hard core support.

Seems to me that Fred’s playing this about right. Letting Romney and Giuliani’s campaign’s self-destruct while he remains above the fray and continues to introduce himself with position papers, speeches and essays that strengthen his bona fides with the party’s base.

True, he can’t wait forever but I believe he’s playing this one out just about right.


19 posted on 05/11/2007 4:01:55 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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the beginning of the end of the Party of Ronald Reagan

Rudy is simply nationalizing Arnie's California campaign. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp? Or does Pat see it, but is still under deadline pressure to write something?

I mean, how difficult is it to realize what's happening? Why aren't we seeing columns inches devoted to this occurrence? Where is Spiff's chart outlining Rudy & the GOP? He should do one between Rudy & Arnie.

If you want to see what's in store for the GOP, look no further than California. With Florida now in the mix as well, Rudy is going to run straight up the middle and lock up the nomination in the big blue states over a span of a few weeks in early 2008.

20 posted on 05/11/2007 4:11:08 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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