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Ft. Dix Terrorists Had 54 Previous Arrests
WRKO-AM | 5/11/07

Posted on 05/11/2007 10:32:13 AM PDT by pabianice

Howie Carr is now on WRKO-MA in Boston. He is relating a report from NJ that states that several of the gang that was plotting to murder US soldiers at Ft. Dix had at least 54 arrests for driving without drivers' licenses and dealing drugs. In none of these cases, according to Carr, were NJ authorities allowed to enquire into their immigration statuses nor to jail them. They simply received warnings and orders not to drive any more because they were not citizens and thus immune to the punishment a citizen would have received.

Are we really this crazy and suicidal in dealing with criminal aliens/terrorists? How many more Americans have to be murdered before we get serious about this?


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1 posted on 05/11/2007 10:32:14 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The 19 killers from 9-11 had numerous arrests and traffic stops too.


2 posted on 05/11/2007 10:33:31 AM PDT by GuineaRabbit
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To: pabianice

Not enough people have died yet.


3 posted on 05/11/2007 10:33:40 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: pabianice

Did 9/11 really happen?


4 posted on 05/11/2007 10:33:52 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: pabianice

And people (mostly libs) said things have changed since 9/11. /sarc


5 posted on 05/11/2007 10:34:21 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: pabianice
Can’t prosecute visitors like they can the local citizenry.

And the goal of many traffic tickets is revenue, not law enforcement.

6 posted on 05/11/2007 10:35:05 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: pabianice

Unbelievable.


7 posted on 05/11/2007 10:35:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: pabianice

“In none of these cases, according to Carr, were NJ authorities allowed to enquire into their immigration statuses nor to jail them. They simply received warnings...”

This is outrageous. Not even an effort to deport them, which wouldn’t have helped, either.

And now we’re gonna pay to feed and shelter them in prison?


8 posted on 05/11/2007 10:35:32 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: pabianice

Sanctuary cities are going to get us killed one of these days.


9 posted on 05/11/2007 10:36:24 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: pabianice
Jersey would rather blame the Dix thing on phantom problems rather than address the (politically incorrect) issues at hand. Liberals authoring their own demise. .....and the rest of ours as well.
10 posted on 05/11/2007 10:36:56 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: pabianice
They simply received warnings and orders not to drive any more because they were not citizens and thus immune to the punishment a citizen would have received.

I'm really a bit skeptical of this. I've had my share of dealings with NJ police, state and local, and this doesn't seem true to character.

11 posted on 05/11/2007 10:37:56 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: pabianice
several of the gang that was plotting to murder US soldiers at Ft. Dix had at least 54 arrests for driving without drivers' licenses and dealing drugs. In none of these cases, according to Carr, were NJ authorities allowed to enquire into their immigration statuses nor to jail them.

I read this, and the first thing I remember is our leaders telling us, after 9/11, its not a matter of if, it's when we get hit again.

We are in deep trouble in my opinion.

12 posted on 05/11/2007 10:38:28 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: pabianice

You’ve gotta be f*cking kidding me...


13 posted on 05/11/2007 10:39:33 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Bosco

Sadly, that’s true. When we get hit again and another several thousand Americans are slaughtered by “guest workers” and TROP, maybe America will wake up.


14 posted on 05/11/2007 10:39:41 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: dragnet2

They were supposedly strict Islamists, which makes the part about dealing drugs a bit contradictory for these “devout” types. Maybe they drank alcohol too.


15 posted on 05/11/2007 10:40:06 AM PDT by laconic (ence)
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To: pabianice

Homeland security......my a$$

Same old......same old, until we start deporting illegals.


16 posted on 05/11/2007 10:44:25 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
Same old......same old, until we start deporting illegals.

With extreme prejudice, if necessary...

17 posted on 05/11/2007 10:46:23 AM PDT by dirtbiker (I'm a liberal's worst nightmare: Redneck with a pickup, library card, and a concealed carry permit)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Sanctuary cities are going to get us killed one of these days.

That's absurd

They would never even reach these cities in the first place if the millions of people entering unchecked across our borders, on aircraft, and boats were regulated, screened and our immigration policies were taken seriously.

Look at some of our very red states. They have millions there that have entered this country illegally.

This is like trying to stay healthy, and keep your body free of toxins, as you pour poison down your throat.

18 posted on 05/11/2007 10:49:32 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Dead Corpse
They simply received warnings and orders not to drive any more because they were not citizens and thus immune to the punishment a citizen would have received.

Do you suppose this 'immunity' carried over to the drug dealing?

unf******real.....

L

19 posted on 05/11/2007 10:53:42 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Lurker

This keeps up, I’m renouncing my citizenship and will take up residence as an illegal...


20 posted on 05/11/2007 10:55:00 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: pabianice
"Are we really this crazy and suicidal in dealing with criminal aliens/terrorists?"

Yes.

21 posted on 05/11/2007 10:57:50 AM PDT by CeasarsGhost
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To: dragnet2
That's absurd

Not at all. We can argue all day about how they got here, but the fact is these cities attract them and protect them.

22 posted on 05/11/2007 11:03:00 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I’m renouncing my citizenship and will take up residence as an illegal...

Let's look at the benefits of such an action:

No drivers license required.
No liability insurance required.
Apparent immunity from prosecution for the above in several States.
Apparent immunity from the drug laws in many jurisdictions.
Immunity from the Identity Theft, SS Fraud, etc etc Statutes.
"Free" medical care.
No income tax. (this is a biggie)
Easy credit without having to prove your identity or legal status.

I'm sure you can add to my list. And what's the worst they can do to you if they do catch you? Deport you to St. Paul?

L

23 posted on 05/11/2007 11:03:11 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: pabianice

This is Nuckin Futs.


24 posted on 05/11/2007 11:06:00 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: pabianice
This isn't just about terrorist. It's about implemting the law of the United States in the United States. What a joke that poeple who are here illegally don't get procecuted for the infractions and laws that they break, but we the citizens do!

This is _supposed_ to be a government/country where rule of law is enforced!

25 posted on 05/11/2007 11:07:01 AM PDT by veracious
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To: pabianice
Are we really this crazy and suicidal in dealing with criminal aliens/terrorists?

Apparently. Political Correctness is genuinely deadly.

How many more Americans have to be murdered before we get serious about this?

One would have thought 3,000 on 9-11 would have been enough, but it obviously it is not. Nobody has the slightest idea what the figure will be - even the loss of a major city. The morons will just continue to blame Bush and our lack of "dialog".

26 posted on 05/11/2007 11:10:08 AM PDT by Gritty (Liberals go to therapy. Conservatives go to church. - Ann Coulter)
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To: pabianice

Hill-de-pants and Nanny Pee-lousy will be pleased to hear that the hugga-wugga give-them-another-chance program has been working weally, weally well and non of these nice, misunderstood boys (youts) have been harrassed when they were a wee bit naughty in the past.


27 posted on 05/11/2007 11:11:04 AM PDT by hardworking (Curious: just which teachings of Christ did Mo-Ham-id reject?)
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To: paulcissa

maybe America will wake up

Seriously, the problem is with the definition of the phrase “America will wake up”. To conservatives this means we enforce the law, vigorously and without exception. To liberals it means that America must confess its sins and dialogue with the miscreants to determine what WE can do to satisfy them so that they will play nice. The difference between these two philosophies is as wide as the grand canyon and with the DEMS in power one can expect to see many decades of tragedy, self-examination, tragedy, self-examination until the following happens:
1. The current DEM crop of losers finally dies off
2. The voters mature and get sick of the DEM losers
3. The Mus-slimes win by way of using our own laws and get themselves elected in large numbers at the local and state level (maybe POTUS if Osama wins)


28 posted on 05/11/2007 11:15:14 AM PDT by hardworking (Curious: just which teachings of Christ did Mo-Ham-id reject?)
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To: pabianice
They simply received warnings and orders not to drive any more because they were not citizens and thus immune to the punishment a citizen would have received.

Good grief. I didn't realize that not reporting their "immigration status" also meant that they never got punished for anything they did wrong. I have been saying all along that one of the big problems with illegal immigration is not Federal law, but state and local laws that actually prevent Federal laws from having any effect.

29 posted on 05/11/2007 11:18:05 AM PDT by livius
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To: pabianice
It started with the schools. Many people don't understand history or our laws or why this country is special. They are taught that the world is one pie and that being equal and fair and non offensive is golden. Therefore they get out in the world and see things like this and say "Hey, those guys deserve to come here!" and "Why are we over there attacked Iraq? They didn't do anything to us!" This problem has become acute within my generation leaving many to succumb to the most base and ignorant arguments. For Example: WE PLANNED 9/11 CUZ WE TRAINED OSAMA WE HAD IT COMING CUZ WE HAD BASES OVER "THERE"
30 posted on 05/11/2007 11:20:37 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Bosco

“Not enough people have died yet.”

...incorrect....!!!

Not enough TERRORISTS have died yet.


31 posted on 05/11/2007 11:21:54 AM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: pabianice

Are we really this crazy and suicidal in dealing with criminal aliens/terrorists?

We?

“We” are being ignored by our elected representatives.


32 posted on 05/11/2007 11:23:18 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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I don’t get it. They DONT have to follow our laws because they are not citizens but they DO have RIGHTS if they are arrested????????????


33 posted on 05/11/2007 11:24:02 AM PDT by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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To: taxed2death

Same old......same old, until we start deporting illegals.

What MUST be done, for the safety and security of AMERICANS is to deport ALL non-US Citizens. Everyone. Including Diplomats, students, visa holders, etc. Everyone goes home, no exceptions.

In 6 months we’ll start considering return on a case by case basis.

And just imagine what will happen when the bush administration relocates thousands of iraqis to th US....................


34 posted on 05/11/2007 11:27:06 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Lurker
I wonder if I'd still have to pay the tax on Class III toyz...

Deport you to St. Paul?

Minneapolis. Born May 27th at St. Mary's. ;-)

35 posted on 05/11/2007 11:27:17 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: GYPSY286

I don’t get it. They DONT have to follow our laws because they are not citizens but they DO have RIGHTS if they are arrested????????????

I don’t get it either, it’s sad really.


36 posted on 05/11/2007 11:28:12 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: hardworking

Good points, all of them. I hope I’m fortunate (and healthy enough) to see items 1 & 2 in my lifetime. I pray my son isn’t forced to endure item 3. I shudder to think what the future of our nation holds for him.


37 posted on 05/11/2007 11:28:28 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: pabianice

Quite frankly, this is all the fault of the DoJ, which is an effing joke, an absolute effing joke when it comes to enforcing immigration law.


38 posted on 05/11/2007 11:30:04 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: laconic
They were supposedly strict Islamists, which makes the part about dealing drugs a bit contradictory for these “devout” types. Maybe they drank alcohol too.

I don't think the Koran has any problem with selling drugs to the infidel if it helps to weaken him.
39 posted on 05/11/2007 11:30:39 AM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Minneapolis.

OK. So they'll bus you to Duluth and make you walk back...

L

40 posted on 05/11/2007 11:31:26 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: GuineaRabbit

Hopefully, Paris Hilton won’t hear about this, she’ll demand equal treatment.


41 posted on 05/11/2007 11:37:10 AM PDT by billygoatgruff
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Wouldn’t be the first time I’d hitched a ride on I-35... ;-)


42 posted on 05/11/2007 11:40:07 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: pabianice

They use our own misguided “good will” to scam the system and kill us. This sanctuary city designation needs to be overruled by our spineless legislators and the Supreme Court.


43 posted on 05/11/2007 11:44:52 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Thats it! Citizens with a stable job and home address are income generators whereas illegal immigrants are not cost effective to prosecute due to not be able to pay the fine.
There is no incentive to become legal because you cant skirt the law when needed. imho


44 posted on 05/11/2007 11:45:23 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: pabianice

Busted for dealing and given a warning slip? Because they’re illegals? I’d verify that before broadcasting it.


45 posted on 05/11/2007 11:47:13 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Liberty Valance
As a White male I would have been in jail long ago if I had disregarded the laws in this way. There is no equality in this country. There is only the privileged people of color who seem to be exempt from all of our laws laws. These people are rewarded for illegally entering this country. Can you name me another crime where the law breaker is allowed to keep all the proceeds that are derived from their crimes?
I think "We The People" should give the government a choice. Either you enforce all of the laws against all people equally or every one of us will have a choice of which laws we get to ignore.
The tax laws are right at the top of my list.
46 posted on 05/11/2007 11:51:53 AM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: pabianice

Thank you, Geraldo, you illegal-loving punk.


47 posted on 05/11/2007 11:56:31 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Red in Blue PA

Of course not. Like the Holocaust, it’s just a manipulation tool. My friend has a friends who was there when the Towers were really taken down, about 2 weeks before 9-11-01. They were replaced with a hologram to foll the population until the planes (which were really just old, defunct missiles with TWA painted on them) could be arranged.


48 posted on 05/11/2007 11:57:12 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Do I really need the tag here?)
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Are we really this crazy and suicidal in dealing with criminal aliens/terrorists?

Yes.

How many more Americans have to be murdered before we get serious about this?

In the last few years approx. 45,000 people have been killed in this country by illegal aliens. Hasn't affected the powers that be yet..$$$$ is a mighty incentive for some.

Follow the $$$$$.

We have republicans as well as dems in the ‘Albanian caucus’ protecting the likes of the terrorists who just got caught!

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has raised more than $7.9 million since 2005 for his Straight Talk America leadership committee...Albanian American Civic League $5,000 raised by people with this employer.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fec/specials/mccain/by-employer/39/

The entire list of the ‘Albanian Caucus’ is disturbing, but these stand out! I suggest they be contacted. There are also dems on the list, but it would be nice to know what these R’s think about the current situation!

http://www.frosina.org/advisories/default.asp?id=75 The ‘Albanian Caucus’

Congressman Peter T. King (R-NY), Co-Chair 403 Cannon HOB Washington, DC 20515 Tel: (202) 225-7896 Fax: (202) 226-2279 Internet: www.house.gov/king/ Contact: Robert O’Connor

# Congressman Benjamin Gilman (R-NY) 2449 Rayburn HOB Washington, DC 20515 Tel: (202) 225-3776 Fax: (202) 225-2541 Internet: www.house.gov/gilman/ Contact: John Herzburg

# Congresswoman Sue Kelly (R-NY) 1222 Longworth HOB Washington, DC 20515 Tel: (202) 225-5441 Fax: (202) 225-3289 Internet: www.house.gov/suekelly/ Contact: Dan Boston & Dennis Lambert

Congressman Bill Paxon (R-NY) 2412 Rayburn HOB Washington, D.C. 20515 Tel: (202) 225-5265 Fax: (202) 225-5910 E-mail: rep.paxon@mail.house.gov. Internet: www.house.gov/paxon/ Contact: Chris Downing

# Congressman John Porter (R-IL) 2373 Rayburn HOB Washington, D.C. 20515 Tel: (202) 225-4835 Fax: (202) 225-0837 Internet: www.house.gov/porter/ Contact: Kelly Curry

# Congressman Dana Rochrabacher (R-CA) 2338 Rayburn HOB Washington, DC 20515-0545 Tel: (202) 225-2415 Fax: (202) 225-0145 Internet: www.house.gov/rohrabacher/ Contact: Paul Behrends & Al Santoli

49 posted on 05/11/2007 12:02:57 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: pabianice
several of the gang that was plotting to murder US soldiers at Ft. Dix had at least 54 arrests

The "Three Strikes Law" would have solved that.

50 posted on 05/11/2007 12:09:55 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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