Lawmakers drafting bill to make sex through deceit a form of rape

Boston.com ^ | 05/11/2007

[JohnSheppard]

BOSTON --Two state lawmakers are drafting legislation that would make using deceit to have sex a form a rape.

The move comes a day after the state's Supreme Judicial Court ruled that a man who tricked a woman into having sex with him could not be convicted of rape because no force was used. The woman said her boyfriend's brother climbed into bed with her while she was asleep and pretended to be her boyfriend. She said she would not have consented to sex if she had known who it was.

State Rep. Peter Koutoujian, D-Waltham, and Sen. Stephen Buoniconti, D-West Springfield, both former prosecutors, said Friday they are working with the victims advocate group Jane Doe Inc. to draft an amendment to the state's rape law.

[Popman]

The woman said her boyfriend's brother climbed into bed with her while she was asleep and pretended to be her boyfriend. She said she would not have consented to sex if she had known who it was.

I find this simply unbelievable, unless she is so used to men hopping into her bed, she can't figure out who is who on a nightly basis

OTHO, any man who is entrapped into being a father by a women seducing him so they can marry would also fall under this type of illogical, massive inertia thinking

Law of unintended conqueuses

[paul51]

The woman said her boyfriend's brother climbed into bed with her while she was asleep and pretended to be her boyfriend. She said she would not have consented to sex if she had known who it was

Yeah, that happens all the time. Better pass a few laws

[ccmay]

Well, it's curtains for the "$30,000 millionaires" with their ten-year-old Mercedes, fake Rolex, single pair of $700 shoes, and Armani suit from the consignment store. They are all going to be in the clink this time next year. At least it's a step up in respectability from Mom's basement.

-ccm

[SmithL]

That scene in “When Harry met Sally” just became a felony.

[JB in Whitefish]

” lawmakers are drafting legislation that would make using deceit to have sex a form a rape.”

Isn’t DECEIT the basis of getting laid...???

And, for THAT matter...

the impetus of MANY engagements and marriages....???

[proudpapa]

I’ve heard that the Kennedy’s are very opposed to this legistlation.

[P-40]

Or the old, ‘yes, I am rich.’

[the lone wolf]

So the old line “Baby, I’ll make you a star” just became rape in Massachusetts.

[Age of Reason]

This is one of problems marriage was invented to prevent.

Because any female who agreed to have sex, for whatever reason—actual, imaginary, or perceived—outside of marriage was on her own.

That is, don’t come crying to us and gum up our courts and legal system with the results of your irresponsible behavior and bad judgment.

But of course, marriage is not for that anymore.

In fact marriage means nothing anymore because everyone is supposed to be able to do anything they feel like, and if the littlest thing goes wrong, society is supposed to come to the rescue.

You might as well get rid of marriage, because you have made it obsolete.

[pabianice]

What we really need here are women not too stupid to know who is in bed with them. How can we craft a suitable law?

[freemike]

Hmm,, I cannot help but wonder whether when congress gets together to fix something like this, the fix will end up being worse than the problem! Isn’t this something that should be settled case by case, instead of some sweeping new law?? I am even more suspicious when congress wants to rush to fix something. What will the definition of deceit be?? “He told me he was rich but I found out later he wasn’t!”

[FixitGuy]

"Your Honor, he raped me."

"He said he was really, really good"

"And he really, really wasn't."

[Not A Snowbird]

Deceit isn’t rape. Once again they’re watering down the definition to the point that it doesn’t mean anything.

(Not that deceit is okay, mind you.)

[cloud8]

> some things just don’t add up about this case.

Yes. There may have been...alcohol involved. Even so, if a strange piece of ass wandered into your bed, wouldn’t you know it?

It won’t be long before you have to sign a consent form with witnesses (sober) to have sex in Massachusetts. Maybe a notary public too.

I must say though...sex in Vermont is great.

[madprof98]

This is one of problems marriage was invented to prevent.

No kidding. But in Massachusetts these days, they have come up with a better solution: Shack up in the basement of your boyfriend's dad's house and see who climbs into bed with you. If you don't like them, sue.