Skip to comments.Iraqi Army receives M-16 and M-4 rifles
Posted on 05/11/2007 6:44:12 PM PDT by mdittmar
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I think that is what we are seeing with this, they aren’t planning on staying third world. AK to AR is a cultural shift in its self.
I remember seeing a semi load of M-16s that had been captured from Salvadoran guerillas. Many of them had the mag housing corroded badly. There were a series of photos of a Vietnamese “arms dump” on some site a couple of years ago that would make a collector cry. Huge heaps of rotting, rusting guns of every type just piled up in an open field. Most of the wood stocks were rotted clean away.
Poland still uses a design based on the AK, and they are professional.
Just could be....
As for the quality of Wolf and other surplus ammo out there, it seems strange to me that one particular cartridge would do so poorly. The 7.62x54R is no slouch when it comes to accuracy and although I've never owned a 5.45x39, people that do report that AK's in that caliber generally shoot 2 to 3 MOA.
Iran wants to distribute the KY-2000 to all frontline troops by 2010.
WW is fine ammo. I have one AR that will not hold accuracy with it. Funny, been through it several times can find no reason. My bolt action stuff all loves it.
I think the biggest issue here is marksmanship.
Sure, an AK-47 is nearly unjammable and the M-16 requires intense maintenance but one huge difference in our military and the terrorists is the ability to hit the target.
Clearly, the Iraqi’s think the M-16 gives them an advantage.
Philosophically, I was shocked to see this decision by the Iraqis but maybe it indicates they’re bonding well with our guys, embracing our tactics and training, and are moving in a positive direction?
That's how it looks to me too. Adopting the M-16 says "upward mobility".
And doesn't Israel use the M-16? I think it's significant that Iraq would be willing to be seen with the same weapon. In Al-Jazeera footage of Israeli soldiers committing "atrocities" against the Palestinians, the soldiers carry M-16s.
It probably helps to know which gunshots are the good guys and which are the bad guys. Ditto on the color of the tracers.
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I suspect any improvement in shooting when they switch from AK to AR will because of the US issued optics or commercial-off-the-shelf optics they are mounting on their weapons over there.
The US Military learned that magnified optical gunsights and NVG were huge force multipliers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
M4, older model on bottom:
M16/AR15 (A4 variant):
My son owes his hide to the limitations of the AK-47, having live through an ambush with unfrienleies armed with them.
Thanks for the pix! They were great. I was a patrol dog handler and carried the “GAU” madel in the early 70s. Looked like the older M4
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