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To: mdittmar

Since this thread has a bunch of ‘keyboard kommandos’, I was wondering if I could get a straight answer to a question.

Does anyone know the standard accuracy of an AK-47? Now, I’m not talking about a cherry-picked, accurized AK. Nor am I talking about one with match ammo. I’m talking about a Third World-issued AK with Warsaw Pact ammo. One concession, maybe, with a milled receiver and not a cruddy AKM stamped receiver. I’m just curious what our Spec Forces people run across when it comes to accuracy.


34 posted on 05/11/2007 8:28:10 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: tanuki

AK47/AKM accuracy? probably 3-6MOA. 3”-6” @ 100m 6”-12” @200m.

AR15/M16 1-3MOA

This is a great idea. I think the Iraqis will get alot of pride from arming themselves with the small arms symbol of the free world.


35 posted on 05/11/2007 8:41:55 PM PDT by txgunrunner
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To: tanuki
In my time in the USMC I was very familiar with the M-16.

It sucks in sandy environments, like Camp Pendleton.

The AK is a "Chimp Rifle". Meaning that you could issue it to a chimpanzee and a year later it would still work.

The Iraqis are not chimps, but they are not Marines or US Army either.

I believe it would be better for them, and us, if we left them to a rifle they understand and know how to use.

Most of the fighting in Iraq is street-to-street. Short range. The extra accuracy of the M-16 is not required.

41 posted on 05/11/2007 9:08:28 PM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: tanuki
Does anyone know the standard accuracy of an AK-47? Now, I’m not talking about a cherry-picked, accurized AK. Nor am I talking about one with match ammo. I’m talking about a Third World-issued AK with Warsaw Pact ammo. One concession, maybe, with a milled receiver and not a cruddy AKM stamped receiver. I’m just curious what our Spec Forces people run across when it comes to accuracy.

In my experience it was about 6 MOA, using a Chinese MAK90, (which, except for the stock, are considered to be decent AK's). A particularly good one like a Valmet would probably perform somewhat better. The problem seems to be mostly related to the cartridge. I have read that even AR's chambered in 7.62x39 tend to have disappointing accuracy.

If you go over to AR15.com and click on the AK47 tab you can find many threads on this subject. The consensus seems to be that AK's in 7.62x39 are capable of somewhere between 4 and 8 MOA depending on the gun in question and who you ask. AK's in other calibers do much better, but they don't seem to have the potential to be made truly accurate.

42 posted on 05/11/2007 9:13:36 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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