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Young Swedes lack knowledge about communism.. (our kids have no facts about commie murderers)
The Local The Local Europe AB 2007 ^ | May 12 2007 | The Local staff

Posted on 05/12/2007 5:18:50 AM PDT by carlo3b

Young Swedes lack knowledge about communism

Published: 9th May 2007 11:57 CET

Less than fifteen years after the last Soviet troops pulled out of the Baltic States, a new survey has shown that young Swedes are still in the dark about the fate of its neighbours behind the Iron Curtain.

A poll carried out by Demoskop on behalf of the Organization for Information on Communism (Föreningen för upplysning om kommunismen - UOK) found that 90 percent of Swedes between the ages of 15 and 20 had never heard of the Gulag. This can be contrasted with the 95 percent who knew of Auschwitz.

"Unfortunately we were not at all surprised by the findings," Ander Hjemdahl, the founder of UOK, told The Local.

"We had a strong hunch that this would be the case having spent a few years travelling around to various schools," he added.

Of the 1004 young Swedes involved in the nationwide poll, 43 percent believed that communist regimes had claimed less than one million lives. A fifth of those surveyed put the death toll at under ten thousand. The actual figure is estimated at around 100 million.


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KEYWORDS: communism; democrats; progressives; socialist; sweden
You don't have to wonder what our schools are teaching about the former and current communist murderers.. Just like the homosexual agenda, communism is taught as just another interseting and viable lifestyle choice..
 
""Of the 1004 young Swedes involved in the nationwide poll, 43 percent believed that communist regimes had claimed less than one million lives.

A fifth of those surveyed put the death toll at under ten thousand. The actual figure is estimated at around 100 million.

The poll also found that 40 percent of young Swedes believed that communism contributed to increased prosperity in the world; 22 percent considered communism a democratic form of government; 82 percent did not regard Belarus as a dictatorship.

"There were strategic reasons. For example, I think the Social Democrats only won one absolute majority in the post-war years. Therefore they had to rely on the support of smaller parties, one of which was the communist party.

"Another reason is that a large majority of Swedish journalists are left-wingers, many of them quite far left," he said.

"We have had lots of responses over the course of the morning. Some aggressive communists have called us to voice their opinions.

"But we also had two victims of communism crying on the phone, explaining that they had waited fifty years for this," said Hjemdahl.""


You will have to wait another 50 years in the good old USA to get the real skinny in our left-wing school systems.. :(

1 posted on 05/12/2007 5:18:54 AM PDT by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b

You can see the damage done to our youth by commie-loving teachers here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1828722/posts


2 posted on 05/12/2007 5:20:51 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Are there any misdemeanors in Islam?)
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To: Jim Robinson; Bob J; christie; stanz; jellybean; Angelique; Howie; TwoStep; piasa; Exit148; ...
Worth repeating:

"Another reason is that a large majority of Swedish journalists are left-wingers, many of them quite far left,"

3 posted on 05/12/2007 5:20:53 AM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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Bump!


4 posted on 05/12/2007 5:23:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RasterMaster

If we forget, are lied to, or are kept in the dark about the ast, History Will Repeat Itself..


5 posted on 05/12/2007 5:26:55 AM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: carlo3b

“You will have to wait another 50 years in the good old USA to get the real skinny in our left-wing school systems.”

Just as we are still waiting to see who was working with the old USSR here in the US during the Cold War. We should know who the fellow travelers were in the media, academia, and government, who held freedom so cheaply and furthered the cause of tyranny.


6 posted on 05/12/2007 5:35:02 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: carlo3b

The bozos trying to equate the commie flag with the “stars n’ bars” was over the top.


7 posted on 05/12/2007 5:49:57 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Are there any misdemeanors in Islam?)
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To: carlo3b

If you do not learn from history you are doomed to repeat it. With Komrade Vlad in power it is not that much of a stretch to see the CCCP making a comeback.


8 posted on 05/12/2007 5:55:33 AM PDT by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: carlo3b

Left-wingers are usually liars who cheer for the other side, irregardless of which unfortunate country they happen to infest.


9 posted on 05/12/2007 6:09:04 AM PDT by Gritty (Liberals go to therapy. Conservatives go to church. - Ann Coulter)
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To: carlo3b
"...43% believed that communist regimes had claimed less than one million lives. A fifth...under ten thousand. The...figure is...around 100 million"

"...40%...believed that communism contributed to increased prosperity in the world; 22% considered communism a democratic form of government..."

"...a large majority of Swedish journalists are left-wingers, many of them quite far left..."

This is why the distortion of information by the "Newsmedia" and university professors is so dangerous.

It amounts to disinformation, censorship, and indoctrination, and it creates an electorate and a population ignorant of reality.

Those who distort the information reaching the public are either too ignorant of this, too self-serving, or too thoroughly indoctrinated themselves to do otherwise, but they dangerously mislead and misguide the public.

An informed public is the best safeguard against tyrrany and against making unwise collective decisions.

The benevolent, if they understand this, will strive to keep the public truthfully informed.

It must always be kept in mind that there are people who, for various reasons, do not want the public to be truthfully informed and will do their best to distort and censor the information reaching the public.

We, the public, must be eternally vigilant.

Evidently, the Swedish public--and the public of other Western European nations--have not been,

And considering the extent of distortion, disinformation, censorship et al. in the American "Newsmedia" and academic institutions, Americans have not been as vigilant as they should be either.

Thank God for the internet and other means of mass communication here in the Information Age!

10 posted on 05/12/2007 7:14:41 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party is the Party of Sociopaths and Morons (S&M).)
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To: carlo3b

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 05/12/2007 7:49:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Savage Beast

“We, the public, must be eternally vigilant.

Evidently, the Swedish public—and the public of other Western European nations—have not been,”

- MSM is an even worse problem in Europe than in the US. Add the even larger amount of Socialists/Communists in the education apparatus over here in Europe.

You are perfectly right.

Some years ago, Sweden (my home country) took the initative to a big, international Holocaust conference in Stockholm, in part due to the rapid spread of phoney, semi-scientific ‘Holocaust revisionism’ among young people. There were also several educational efforts made in Swedish schools on the theme of WWII, Nazi Germany and The Holocaust. These measures have obviously resulted in an increased resistance against the above mentioned antisemitic propaganda.

Now, let us together, in both America and Europe deal with the lacking awareness concerning Communist crimes against humanity among younger as well as older generations. Big scale conferences like the one mentioned above
aren’t just PC publicity stunts, coordinated with educational efforts they can, apparently have a major impact.

Let’s unite in fighting tyranny and the enemies of democracy and freedom!


12 posted on 05/12/2007 8:17:06 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: carlo3b

public schools


13 posted on 05/12/2007 8:17:51 AM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: carlo3b

14 posted on 05/12/2007 8:48:49 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten these.)
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To: carlo3b

There was a plan to build a big memorial to the victims of Marxism in DC.

Don’t know what happened to it.


15 posted on 05/12/2007 9:53:18 AM PDT by aculeus (Former initiator of numerous interesting threads.)
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To: carlo3b

I would be amazed if ten percent of American high school kids have ever heard about the gulags. And a fair share probably don’t have a clue about the Holocaust. Furthermore I would bet that at least fifty percent of adult Americans have no idea what the gulags were. We have nothing to brag about concerning historical knowledge.


16 posted on 05/12/2007 12:16:18 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: WesternCulture
Thank you for your message.

It is easy to become disheartened by the power and ubiquity of the forces of decadence that threaten Western Civilization, in America, in Europe, and throughout the world.

I have lived in Europe and am of European descent. Obviously I am deeply concerned about what happens in Europe.

Voices, such as yours, that cry out for liberty and truth, are powerful. They give courage and optimism to the people of the world.

17 posted on 05/12/2007 2:28:25 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party is the Party of Sociopaths and Morons (S&M).)
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To: carlo3b
I think we are seeing the same thing happening here, Carlo.

Look at sites like DU, Moveon, and so many others. The pure hatred for America they spout is amazing, all the while they think they are being patriotic.

Then you have "leaders" like Hillary who publicly state that as president she wants to "take the profits" of big oil to use as she wishes. Then there are the gun grabbers, the tobacco grabbers, the coming of the "thought police." The PC crowd, the ACLU and the slow removal of God from all our lives.

Who do we thank for all these "progressive" moves?

18 posted on 05/13/2007 5:31:10 AM PDT by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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To: RasterMaster; carlo3b
20 plus years ago, a Swedish girl told us there was no difference between the Soviet Union and the US!

My wife taught at this junior high school, the kids are out of control, no discipline.

‘Hit list’ creator released from juvenile detention center
But seventh-grade boy must wear electronic ankle monitor, judge rules

http://www.bee-picayune.com/story10.shtml

19 posted on 05/13/2007 7:22:55 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“20 plus years ago, a Swedish girl told us there was no difference between the Soviet Union and the US!”

- What was her age?

Anyhow, Sweden (my home country) needs to confront its Socialist past and all the lies herein.

The reason Sweden today is a rich country is the accomplishments of Swedish multinationals like IKEA, Electrolux, H&M and Ericsson. Socialist politicians have tried to make us believe they themselves brought this sucess about. This is nothing but one big blatant lie.

“My wife taught at this junior high school, the kids are out of control, no discipline.”

- This is more alarming than most people would say.

If a nation can’t foster its youth, it is not in control of its future.


20 posted on 05/13/2007 11:10:22 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

She was a high school exchange student.


21 posted on 05/13/2007 5:46:19 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“She was a high school exchange student.”

- She was probably a rather intelligent young lady with some independent perspectives on the world surrounding her.

Transatlantic exchange programs is one thing I do really believe in.

Let’s continue this tradition.

Today we need more of mutual understanding between North America and Europe than ever before.

Best of regards.


22 posted on 05/13/2007 6:39:43 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: RasterMaster

it is not an accident that knowledge of communist atrocities is almost zero.

ask the nearest liberal if his affections lie with mr. marx, mr. lenin and mr. stalin.

he’ll call you names in answer.

try it some time.l

liberals are nothing but murderers, thieves and liars in sheeps clothing.


23 posted on 05/13/2007 6:44:23 PM PDT by ripley
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To: ripley

“it is not an accident that knowledge of communist atrocities is almost zero.

ask the nearest liberal if his affections lie with mr. marx, mr. lenin and mr. stalin.”

- We are afraid to tell young generations of Westerners the truth about Communism.

We fear we might be ridiculed, questioned and we fear we might be mocked by younger generations.

Perhaps we will.

Doesn’t matter,

Young Westerners growing up today, urgently, need to be informed about this sickening aspect of reality;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gulag_camps


24 posted on 05/13/2007 7:32:10 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

“young westerners growing up today, urgently, need to be informed about this sickening aspect of reality.”

you can rest assured, they will not be.

it’s almost as if the information is protected by some sort of supernatural power that doesn’t allow it to be disseminated or believed; it’s really spooky.


25 posted on 05/14/2007 7:12:13 AM PDT by ripley
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