Posted on 05/14/2007 7:32:04 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
Thank you very, very much, General Rosa. And thank you very much for the degree. It wasn’t as hard as what you had to go through to get it. And I should correct you, I was Cum Laude at New York University Law School, not Magna. But it’s an honor to stand before you and a great honor to be able to say congratulations to the 438 graduating cadets from The Citadel Class of 2007. And particularly congratulations to all of the people, who really made this day possible. Your parents—who I saw you all got up and very warmly applauded—they deserve that applause because I think all of you know that you wouldn’t be here without their love, their support, and their helping you through what, I understand, is a pretty difficult education. Is that correct? Wasn’t easy, right?
(Excerpt) Read more at pao.citadel.edu ...
Audio Link: http://www.citadel.edu/pao/holding/giuliani_grad_speech.MP3
He’s a very good speaker and has tremendous charisma. That doesn’t mean I want him as President, though. :)
Seriously, though, I wish we had a true conservative that was as good at working a crowd as Rudy is. I don’t know how good Fred Thompson is at speeches, but reading the scripts of his radio commentaries, they are extremely well-written. We’re just really, really short on serious communicators for the conservative cause.
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I think you put forward a serious statement.
I like the fact that you can compliment the man - then state you’re disagreement with him as a candidate for POTUS.
Nothing wrong with that at all.
You’re right - communication skills are huge.
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It's all Giuliani has.
If you grant his ability to communicate - by default you concede that he has a message that is true.
Communicate without a message cannot exist.
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What a ridiculous, pompous statement. You couldn't be more wrong. Giuliani is a lying liberal.
one can quite easily concede that someone has excellent communication skills without conceding that the message being communicated is a valid one. very few here dislike rudy giuliani, despite what the dearly departed say; most just disagree, and rather vehemently, with his stance on the issues and think he is not the best choice for president.
I don’t personally hate the guy, I have no reason to. I can admire some things about him, but his beliefs rule out me voting for him except MAYBE if there’s no other practical alternative. And even then, I’m leaning more and more toward sticking with my principles and voting third-party, fully aware of the consequences.
He’s fairly strong on the Iraq war and on the Islamist threat, and does have a good record to run on in terms of how he cleaned up NYC. But his strong law-and-order stands trample on some civil liberties (especially Second Amendment rights) and he’s a pro-abortion social liberal. I can’t hang with that, never mind his personal life.
Basically, all he’s got right now is being America’s Mayor, and how strong and effective he looked after the terrorist attacks. If 9/11 never happened, and Rudy tried to run for President, he’d be looking up at Brownback and Huckabee.
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Clinton even bit his lip. Worked the crowds into a lather.
That’s meaningless garble - why don’t you listen to the speech and stop the dribble.
That’s OK -
That's a false statement. For example, Adolf Hitler and Josef Goebbels were two of the greatest communicators of the past century, yet their messages were almost all lies. Ronald Reagan was truly the Great Communicator, and his messages were true. The ability to get a message across doesn't indicate the truth or falsehood of the message. It just means you're really good at communicating whatever it is you're trying to spread.
(Before anybody invokes Godwin's Law on me or goes nuts here--I'm NOT comparing Rudy to a Nazi. Those were the first two examples that sprung into my head of excellent communicators who were masters of lies.)
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I respect this post by you - I really do.
I like your ability to give credit - then disagree.
He is still leading in the polls by the way.
Long way to go - and a lot of political battles ahead.
The GOP will come out of just fine.
Thanks for the post.
I take your point.
Communicate without a message cannot exist.
So by saying that Hitler was a great communicator, I have to concede his message is true?
Let’s not go there - but I take your point.
Bob Hope gave the address the year my brother graduated IIRC.
I’ll be darn.
Good for you.
I will vote for Rudy in the primaries - but will support the final GOP nominee - 100%.
Thanks for your honesty and principled stance.
May the voters of America scrutinize this greasy bastard like a Manhattan Co-Op board. I have a good feeling that they will.
Anyone who supports Giuliani supports his liberal agenda.
I see you’re another happy Freeper.
Sorry to get you stirred up.
Good luck there.
OK - I support Rudy.
Exactly.
Should be a banner year for The Patriots by the way.
Great draft - and Moss to boot.
I put $100 on them to win the Super Bowl last week.
I don’t think I can vote for somebody who’s pro-abortion, has a demonstrated track record of being against Second Amendment rights, has cozied up to “gay pride” organizations, and all the rest. That’s abandoning what I believe in.
This is why a Giuliani nomination would be a disaster for the Republican Party. If he is nominated, he will shear the entire right wing off of the party. If you thought serious conservatives stayed home last November? You just wait until it’s Hillary vs. Rudy in 2008. He won’t be the Republican savior...he’ll be their destroyer.
The Republican Party MUST—I repeat, MUST—nominate a conservative for 2008. It’s the only chance they’ve got to win. Every single time the GOP has ever tried to move to the middle, they’ve gotten spanked. If they stay to the right and fight for conservative, pro-American, pro-God, pro-life principles, they win nationally. It works. And if it doesn’t work, then at least they lost actually standing for something, instead of selling out what they believe in just for political power.
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Did you have a familial interest in the graduation or just lonesome for some Beach Music and Purple Jesus?
N. Theknow - Class of '71 - Summerall Guards
BTW: I do appreciate your posting the article for comment. Don't let myself or other members of the Greek Chorus scare you. Why should you be scared of a bunch of folks in brown tunics and masks anyway?
FUNNY - I love it.
Honestly - I was in Charleston on vacation and worked my way over the campus to the speech - lucky to get myself inside.
Now - I must pay respect to a Summerall Guard.
Good lord - I was corps squad - 4 years playing soccer - class of 81’.
Got busted my junior year with a still.
120 tours. - pounding the quad.
Nice to meet you.
I don’t necessarily believe he has those either. I’ve heard his Q&A replies, and he runs on and on like a runaway train, and gets so ‘into’ the response, he stutters and stammers.
WOW - I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your comments.
I have no problem with anyone opposing Rudy - or supporting any candidate.
I don’t like being slammed for supporting Rudy.
You know?
Being called names, etc.
But hey - I have a tough chin.
I like all the GOP candidates - I think it’s the finest field
I have ever seen - in my lifetime.
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It's not easy to keep up the lies, I guess.
“If you grant his ability to communicate - by default you concede that he has a message that is true.”
Obama has a lot of charisma and is a good communicator. His message is false.
However, that said, I think a lot of freepers are shooting themselves in the foot by attempting to destroy Giuliani as a candidate. I’m not a fan, but I prefer not to kill someone’s candidacy before the winning strategy is determined.
I take your point on the communication issue - my bad - your statement is correct.
The one good thing about Rudy is his influence.
The same can be said for Newt, Mitt, or anyone.
The more we all have to face the various sides to the key issues - the more rounded our ultimate GOP nominee will be.
Thanks for the post.
You sound as if you recently took a correspondence course in How to Win Friends and Influence People. I hope it didn't cost you very much.
Wow, hey—no, no!—thank you General Rosa! What a great crowd! Whoa, hey, wow .......
What say we give it up, put your hands together—won’t you?—how about a big hand for......9-11!
And, take my wife....no, the 2nd one.
120 tours. - pounding the quad.
6 and 120 as a member of the Quad and Gun Club? Do you still walk in your sleep?
All I ever got was 1 and 20 for putting a thousand crickets in my TAC Officer's car.
Found out he hated bugs and decided to "put it to the test."
That’s funny.
No - I got Zotted last week for getting pissed at someone and posting some nasty comments.
I don
I have to behave myself and treat everyone with respect.
That’s funny.
No - I got Zotted last week for getting pissed at someone and posting some nasty comments.
I don’t have to do that - and I know better.
I have to behave myself and treat everyone with respect.
Now that was original. A couple questions - how did you ever catch 1000 crickets, and how did you get caught. FUNNY
Bait shop - Took all my beer money from "Big John's" for a month.
Got caught when he stood in front of me at SMI and I couldn't keep a straight face.
That’s a great story - I love that you cracked up at SMI.
FUNNY brother - I laughed out loud.
So when Saturday Morning Inspection was held, all I could think of was him jumping around and flailing at the air and inside the car, his hair, his pants, his hat and he was screaming like a banshee.
One month later I was still laughing as I was walking tours.
All because the SOB gave me 5 demerits for squeezing my toothpaste in the middle of the tube.
It’s a classic story - no doubt about it.
I don't care what Rudy did in the aftermath of 9/11 or how he restored law and order to NYC. It doesn't qualify him for President, OK?
Don't support Rudy at all. Trust me, don't be scared of Hillary. She'll probably do far less damage to the nation as Rudy will.
This is about putting conservatism back into the GOP. If Rudy wins the nomination, then a 3rd party candidate will appear. Conservatives are not going to support Rudy.
Because he’s a leader and says what he means and means what he says.
Because he’s a leader and says what he means and means what he says.
Anyone who supports a liberal deserves nothing but scorn and derision.
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