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Hagel: It might be time for an independent candidate
JournalStar.com ^ | 5-14-2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/14/2007 2:13:05 PM PDT by stan_sipple

Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel says the Republican party has been led astray by “isolationist insulationists” and it may be time for an independent presidential ticket — perhaps with the names Bloomberg and Hagel on it.

Hagel, a lifelong Republican who has been a frequent critic of the Iraq war, said Sunday he will decide about running by late summer after determining where he can best play a role to “make a better world.”

After dining recently with former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who is also considering a run for president as an independent, Hagel said people might want to consider the two on a ticket.

“We didn’t make any deals. But I think Mayor Bloomberg is the kind of individual who should seriously think about this,” Hagel said.

“It’s a great country to think about — a New York boy and a Nebraska boy to be teamed up leading this nation,” he said.

Hagel said it was time for the political system to be shaken up with a third-party candidacy. He explained that the GOP is no longer the party of “Eisenhower, of Goldwater, of Reagan,” but rather a group hijacked by “single-minded, almost isolationist insulationists, power-projectors.”

“I think the elections next year for president and other offices will be settled on the basis of what America will be looking at and wanting and demanding — honest, competent, accountable leadership,” Hagel said.

“This country is in trouble. The world is in trouble. And we need some new, fresh, independent ideas to lead this country forward,” he said.

Hagel spoke on “Face the Nation” on CBS.


TOPICS: Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; chuckhagel; hagel; hagelthehorrible; rinos; ussenate
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Dont let the barn door hit you on the way out Chuck
1 posted on 05/14/2007 2:13:09 PM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Hagel: “It might be time to feed my enormous ego”.


2 posted on 05/14/2007 2:14:04 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: stan_sipple
How in the world can a guy with so little to offer be so full of himself. He and bloomberg would make a great pair.....on some obscure reality show.
3 posted on 05/14/2007 2:16:12 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: stan_sipple

Wait, he wants us out of Iraq, and he’s calling other Republicans “isolationist?” My head hurts.

}:-)4


4 posted on 05/14/2007 2:16:27 PM PDT by Moose4 ("(Rudy's) the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress." --Jim Robinson)
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To: stan_sipple
“It’s a great country to think about — a New York boy and a Nebraska boy to be teamed up leading this nation,” he said.

Maybe you two kids should start with a small apartment and a puppy first, and see where it leads.

5 posted on 05/14/2007 2:16:58 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: stan_sipple

I think the Republican Party is in the process of being hijacked by RINO surrender monkey a*****s like Chuck Nagel.


6 posted on 05/14/2007 2:17:20 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: stan_sipple

It might be time to tell Chuck to take a long walk off a short pier.


7 posted on 05/14/2007 2:17:23 PM PDT by newcthem (A former republican......now I'm a Fredsureashellcan !!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: stan_sipple

Sure. If you WANT to make sure the Democrats win.


8 posted on 05/14/2007 2:18:37 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: stan_sipple

Personally, I’d love to see him give up that Senate seat in Nebraska to a far more deserving Nebraskan. And what amuses me is that he thinks he’ll actually receive votes.


9 posted on 05/14/2007 2:19:04 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: stan_sipple
Don't make me spray my coffee, Senator.
10 posted on 05/14/2007 2:19:10 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: dead

heh..you came REAL CLOSE to owing me a new keyboard with that one..:-)


11 posted on 05/14/2007 2:19:20 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese..)
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To: stan_sipple

Who does he think he is? JOHN ANDERSON??


12 posted on 05/14/2007 2:19:39 PM PDT by tellw
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To: stan_sipple
he will decide about running by late summer after determining where he can best play a role to “make a better world.”

Hey, Chuck. If you're open to suggestions, I've got one for you: how about shutting up and going away?

And take Bloomie with you.

13 posted on 05/14/2007 2:20:19 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Politicians are like diapers: they need to be changed often and for the same reasons.)
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To: tellw
Norman Thomas would be more apropos.

Leni

14 posted on 05/14/2007 2:20:54 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: stan_sipple

Dear Freepers:

You have been warned.

The Clinton’s need a third party candidate to suck enough votes away from the Republican’s to get them elected. Don’t put it past Hillary Inc. to make the same kind of deal with Bloomberg that Billy made with Ross Perot. History can repeat itself, just watch.


15 posted on 05/14/2007 2:21:44 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

BINGO!


16 posted on 05/14/2007 2:24:12 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: tellw
Wasn’t John Anderson just an egg head. Hagal is a real nut job.
17 posted on 05/14/2007 2:25:45 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: InterceptPoint

The Clinton’s need a third party candidate to suck enough votes away from the Republican’s to get them elected. Don’t put it past Hillary Inc. to make the same kind of deal with Bloomberg that Billy made with Ross Perot. History can repeat itself, just watch.
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NOT ANOTHER ROSS PEROT!!!! NO FREAKIN’ WAY.


18 posted on 05/14/2007 2:25:46 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: stan_sipple
Time for Chuckie-Wucky and Bloomy to revert to the Dems. Clearly, despite MSMegahype no Republicans are interested.
19 posted on 05/14/2007 2:26:54 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: dead

Don’t forget lots and lots of vaseline.


20 posted on 05/14/2007 2:27:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Would you vote for President a guy who married his cousin? Me, neither. Accept no RINOs. Fred in '08)
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To: stan_sipple
Let's see... Chuck Hagel or Fred Thompson...

Bye Chuck!

21 posted on 05/14/2007 2:27:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: stan_sipple

Hagel running for President would be a little like a handicapped Olympics kid running against Santanna Moss of the Washington Redskins.


22 posted on 05/14/2007 2:29:25 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: stan_sipple

Is Hagel ProLife?


23 posted on 05/14/2007 2:29:54 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: stan_sipple

Michael Bloomberg and Chuck Hagel will be Hillary/Obama’s Ross Perot. It will guarantee whomever is on the GOP ticket will win, just as it did for the democrat nominee Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton in 1992 against President George H.W. Bush. We should encourage these two egomaniacs in their futile pursuit.


24 posted on 05/14/2007 2:30:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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To: InterceptPoint; Kenny Bunk

“single-minded, almost isolationist insulationists, power-projectors.”

internally inconsistent, but “smart sounding!”

Put him on a stage for a while, he’ll start babbling like Wes Clark.


25 posted on 05/14/2007 2:32:15 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TomasUSMC
Is Hagel ProLife?

Yes.

26 posted on 05/14/2007 2:34:16 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: stan_sipple
Hagel needs to pair up with another ProLifer not some Pro Baby annihilator.
27 posted on 05/14/2007 2:41:20 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: stan_sipple

This guy really is a kook. Obviously, that ticket could not win. It might take votes from the dems, it’s real hard to see it garnering republican votes.


28 posted on 05/14/2007 2:41:25 PM PDT by Williams
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To: stan_sipple

Hagel could be onto something here. I’ve heard a lot of strong conservatives around here calling for a third party.

Oh wait...


29 posted on 05/14/2007 2:47:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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To: stan_sipple

after determining where he can best play a role to “make a better world.”

“We are the world... we are the children....”


30 posted on 05/14/2007 2:48:30 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: stan_sipple

Not an independent ticket I could support.


31 posted on 05/14/2007 2:48:50 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: everyone

Go for it, Chuck. We don’t want you in the GOP.


32 posted on 05/14/2007 2:48:52 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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isolationist insulationists?

Sounds like a sheetrock company that works only on the homes of Pat Buchanan supporters. How many of those are there?


33 posted on 05/14/2007 3:02:18 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50 coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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This is embarrassing. Just go away er churlie.
34 posted on 05/14/2007 3:03:34 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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After dining recently with former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg

And how many bottles were consumed while dreaming this one up?

isolationist insulationists

Anyone who speaks like this has no business running for anything, let alone the Presidency.

35 posted on 05/14/2007 3:04:35 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: stan_sipple
Good news. Hagel will peel off some of the moonbat vote, ensuring Hillary or whatever Dem nominee loses by an even larger margin.

Meanwhile, a Thompson/Hunter GOP ticket will win in a landslide.

36 posted on 05/14/2007 3:05:28 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Dear Freepers: You have been warned.

Warned, how?

The Clinton’s need a third party candidate to suck enough votes away from the Republican’s to get them elected.

A Hagel-Bloomberg independent ticket will split the Democrat vote. Conservatives aren't going to vote for them.

Don’t put it past Hillary Inc. to make the same kind of deal with Bloomberg that Billy made with Ross Perot. History can repeat itself, just watch.

Your bloviating is overblown.

37 posted on 05/14/2007 3:07:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: InterceptPoint
I've been predicting this for years.

However, I've always thought McCain would be the fly in the ointment that puts another Clinton in the WH.

Either way...(and I really, really hate to say this)...I fully expect the Hildebeast to be elected the same way her husband was: with help from an "independent" candidate drawing away Republican votes.

38 posted on 05/14/2007 3:11:05 PM PDT by daler (The best things in life...aren't "things.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Dems don't vote for Republicans nearly as much as Republicans vote for Republicans (even RINOS get Republican votes.)

I don't think there is any doubt that Perot won the election for the Clintons. I'm just suggesting that another deal like that would not be out of the question. I have mentioned in earlier posts that it is likely that Hillary will try to promote a third party candidacy from the right of center or at least to the right of Hillary with the goal being a reduction in net votes for the Republican candidate. This is a good strategy if you are Hillary so I'm just suggesting that we be on the lookout for it.

39 posted on 05/14/2007 3:26:40 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: stan_sipple

Would anyone outside of his immediate family vote for Hagel? Why would Bloomberg run under him?


40 posted on 05/14/2007 3:31:44 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: stan_sipple

An independent candidate? lol Does the name, Ross Perot, ring a bell? lol


41 posted on 05/14/2007 3:35:31 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: stan_sipple

Here it comes.

Just as the Clintons bought off Perot to split the Repub votes in 92 and 96, now Hillary is taking a page to do the same in 08.

Although it’s not readily apparent what Conservatives would find attractive about Hagel.


42 posted on 05/14/2007 3:45:16 PM PDT by Stand W (Fetchez La Vache!)
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To: stan_sipple
Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel says the Republican party has been led astray by “isolationist insulationists” and it may be time for an independent presidential ticket — perhaps with the names Bloomberg and Hagel on it.

Expect an Arkancide soon. These two losers would swipe the democrats leaning towards the middle.

43 posted on 05/14/2007 3:46:37 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: stan_sipple

It’s definitely time for a new Republican senator in Nebraska.


44 posted on 05/14/2007 3:48:48 PM PDT by skr (Car bombs and IEDs are the exclamation marks for the latest Democrats' talking points.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It’s true that Conservatives won’t vote for Bloomberg and Hagel, but RINOs might. I don’t know which party might lose more to this loony ticket.


45 posted on 05/14/2007 4:11:38 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: stan_sipple
Hagel/Bloomberg? Don't make me laugh!

They'll suck more votes away from the Demoncrat candidate than the GOP one.

46 posted on 05/14/2007 4:17:13 PM PDT by Gritty (Republicans avoid being turned into a liberal malediction only by being 100% ineffective-Ann Coulter)
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To: Stand W
Just as the Clintons bought off Perot to split the Repub votes in 92 and 96, now Hillary is taking a page to do the same in 08.

The thing is though, it's not going to work. This isn't 1992. Conservatives know what's going on now.

47 posted on 05/14/2007 4:18:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Gritty
"They'll suck more votes away from the Demoncrat candidate than the GOP one."

You are on to something. Hagel can split the Democrat anti-war vote. Since all Republicans are for the war, he won't get any of those.

48 posted on 05/14/2007 4:41:53 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: stan_sipple

He won’t even be the Ross Perot or the Pat Buchanan of the next presidential race if he runs. He’s ruined in our circles with his constant carping and the Liberals already have their Hillary and their Hillary wannabe’s.


49 posted on 05/14/2007 4:46:44 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: Little Ray
If you WANT to make sure the Democrats win.

Are you sure that would be the effect? Seems to me Hagel running as a third party candidate would split the anti-war vote and hurt the Democrats

50 posted on 05/14/2007 4:48:10 PM PDT by murdoog
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