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Checkpoint targets Route 9 travelers (Soviet style roadblocks arrive in US)
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Posted on 05/15/2007 3:21:40 PM PDT by Rodney King

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To: mysterio
I'd be interested to see a study about how "free" we really are.

Probably the "freest" people on earth are living in thatch huts in the Amazon, or on a south pacific island. Some folks romanticize such life, but those who live that way are also dirt poor, live a literal hand to mouth existence and die early. We aren't really "free" here by comparison, but I think I like it best here anyway.

41 posted on 05/15/2007 4:22:51 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

If people want to stop illegals, this is the kind of thing, along with carrying your new tamper proof ID everywhere, that we’ll have to put up with.

This is only the beginning of “papers please”.


Yep unless and until the borders are totally secure...... Your ID will be necessary to get a job, rent an apt, etc so as you say........ ‘papers please’...


42 posted on 05/15/2007 4:25:25 PM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: Rodney King

Sounds like a border check point. Route 9 goes to New Brunswick Canada.


43 posted on 05/15/2007 4:26:52 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Rodney King

Because it is not about your car but a broadley thrown net to pull in anyone who might be doing something illegal.


44 posted on 05/15/2007 4:30:39 PM PDT by EdArt (free to be)
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To: Gabz

Pssst! Over here. If this isn’t a Nanny State ping-worthy situation, I don’t know WHAT is. Grrrr!


45 posted on 05/15/2007 4:32:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Rodney King
Soviet style roadblocks?

Where are the pictures of the T-72's?

46 posted on 05/15/2007 4:33:31 PM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: Rodney King
They call it Lobster Claw 'cause it's a fishing expedition.

It's supposed to be crime"fighting"... not shooting fish in a barrel.

47 posted on 05/15/2007 4:34:22 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: LadyNavyVet

Yes you should be - why are we suppose to be worried about our government - it is the government who should be worried about its citizens.


48 posted on 05/15/2007 4:35:50 PM PDT by EdArt (free to be)
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To: Shots
Oh and try driving between Tucson and Mexican border towns they all have check points hell they even have some rolling units just to catch illegals which is a good thing NO? Or are you naysayers saying illegals are a Good thing for the US? I did not think so enough said.

I've been through those... they ask who's in the car, and then let you go. Nothing at all like the above-mentioned BS.

49 posted on 05/15/2007 4:37:26 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Shots

It’s called reasonable suspicion. You are supposed to be secure in your person and your papers, unless law enforcement has reasonable suspicion. In that case, they can do a pat down for weapons for their own safety.

To search your car, they need at least reasonable suspicion, because normally they would need a search warrant, which requires probable cause for a search, a much higher standard of evidence that a crime has been committed. To get a search warrant, they have to show cause to a judge, and the judge has to sign it.

For cars, the LEO can site ‘exigent circumstances’, that being that if they stopped to get a warrant, that the perp could drive off and destroy the evidence or something of that nature.

In that case, with cars, they will drive you to a police station, put you in lock up, and then get the warrant anyway, since they can put you in the can for 24 hours without charging you with a crime.

So, in short, the 4th amendment to the constitution is the big deal here. What these blue staters are perpetrating here is just a violation of black-letter law, and they themselves should be arrested for it.


50 posted on 05/15/2007 4:38:05 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Ignorance should be painful)
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To: Rodney King
Image hosted by Photobucket.com and the aclu is all over this... right???
51 posted on 05/15/2007 4:41:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: EdArt
...it is the government who should be worried about its citizens.

And worried they are. Why do you think they are so hot and heavy to enact British style gun control?

Hint: It's not to keep private citizens safe.
52 posted on 05/15/2007 4:41:51 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Rodney King

Several years back we had a dipwad police chief that thought it would be fun to harass vets leaving the legion bar. Two weeks later he was fired by the village council after vets showed up at the monthly meeting, proving that people do have power when they complain loudly enough. Maybe the little fascist found work in Maine.


53 posted on 05/15/2007 4:48:12 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50ยข coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: Shots

There’s this little thing called The Constitution which once upon a time(yes, I realize it’s become a fairy tail these days) rightly limited police powers.

The police neither have the right to my time nor my identity if I’m not in the process of committing a criminal act. My time, my name and the contents of my vehicle are none of his bloody business.

Instead of doing police work, they set up these revenue generation stops to both steal my time and violate my privacy by sticking their noses into my business and parade their narcotics dogs around and around my car praying the dog doesn’t miss the sit command from it’s handler.

The “big deal” is it’s wrong and everyone who values freedom should be raising hell about this and every other abuse of our rights under color of law.


54 posted on 05/15/2007 4:51:17 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: deport
Your ID will be necessary to get a job, rent an apt, etc so as you say........ ‘papers please’...

Yup.

I think I'll get one of those "life lock" accounts they advertize on the radio. Once we start cracking down on ID for work, there will be 12 million people who will start using someone else's name as well as their SSN so as to make sure everything matches.

55 posted on 05/15/2007 4:52:56 PM PDT by narby
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To: Rodney King
A war of freedom is being waged and being lost. Homeland Security money is paying for this. Big Brother government is out of control and George W Bush is NOT on the side of freedom.
56 posted on 05/15/2007 4:55:29 PM PDT by jackieaxe (This one hour pre-flight security screening is brought to you by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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To: Rodney King; y'all
Claire says "it's time" bump.
57 posted on 05/15/2007 4:57:41 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: AnnaZ

I’ve been through those... they ask who’s in the car, and then let you go. Nothing at all like the above-mentioned BS.

That is a matter of opinion did you ever notice the drug sniffing dogs?

The point I am trying to make here is people are over reacting to these searches they try to make it out as all evil when it is not. If they catch One two three or even four drunks the check point has done its job. The same goes for catching illegals along the borders if they catch five ten or fifteen the check points have done their job.

I do not know about others but I do not wants drunks on the same road that I might be driving on and I sure as all hell to dont want more illegals taking jobs from American citizens. I am fed up with the stuff they claim i.e. they are doing jobs Americans will not do. Give me a break I know darn well Americans will slaughter chickens, my dad did and we had a respectable life.

Now they are saying Americans do not want to hang dry wall????? Say what my uncles would love to have their jobs back those illegals stole.

The bottom line is these check points can stop some of this from happening if they are not here they can not take your jo and drunk drivers cannot kill you either if they are not on the road..

I have always thought Freepers had some pretty good heads o their shoulders but lately I am starting to wonder. Perhaps we have bee infiltrated by the liberals, yeah that’s it.


58 posted on 05/15/2007 5:01:09 PM PDT by Shots (Loose lips sink ships)
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To: Shots
If they catch One two three or even four drunks the check point has done its job.

Just how many rights are you willing to give up to catch the drunks on the road?

The same goes for catching illegals along the borders if they catch five ten or fifteen the check points have done their job.

Equating border operations with stopping every car on the road is ludicrous.

59 posted on 05/15/2007 5:09:15 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
“She also had a prescription for a drug, but it was not in a legal prescription bottle.”

WTF ? ? ? Her prescription drug was not in a bottle with the prescription on it? Mr. Donut Eater may have stepped on his own tenders with hob-nailed boots with that arrest.

One wonders whether Mr. Donut Eater realizes than many people place their meds into compartmented plastic dose boxes. Each compartment has their meds for a particular period of time.

Hopefully, the Donut Eater will be sued and lose his LEO certification for an assortment of reasons. A very short list of reasons follows, not the least of which is being too stupid to be allowed on the streets, let alone on the streets armed and armored with a badge pinned on.

BAD COP! NO DONUT!

60 posted on 05/15/2007 5:11:54 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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