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To: betty boop
Does the human genome have "pages?"

What's your point? Are you maintaining your assertion that he was talking about the Bible?

Do I need to drag out the full context of the quotation?

For Collins, unravelling the human genome did not create a conflict in his mind. Instead, it allowed him to “glimpse at the workings of God”.

“When you make a breakthrough it is a moment of scientific exhilaration because you have been on this search and seem to have found it,” he said. “But it is also a moment where I at least feel closeness to the creator in the sense of having now perceived something that no human knew before but God knew all along.

“When you have for the first time in front of you this 3.1 billion-letter instruction book that conveys all kinds of information and all kinds of mystery about humankind, you can’t survey that going through page after page without a sense of awe. I can’t help but look at those pages and have a vague sense that this is giving me a glimpse of God’s mind.”

Collins joins a line of scientists whose research deepened their belief in God. Isaac Newton, whose discovery of the laws of gravity reshaped our understanding of the universe, said: “This most beautiful system could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful being.”


633 posted on 06/13/2007 3:51:38 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; .30Carbine; cornelis; YHAOS; MHGinTN
What's your point? Are you maintaining your assertion that he was talking about the Bible?

Yes, I maintain that.

Yet even if Dr. Collins were referring to the genome, my point would be made. I do understand, you see, that Dr. Collins is a recovered atheist....

I thank you for dragging out the full context. Like Einstein, Dr. Collins seems to resonate with the sort of thing presented here:

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of the things which do appear.”
— The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Hebrews 11:3

And then, there’s this:

“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.”
— The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans 1: 20–23
All italics in the above are mine.

Just the merest suggestion of scripture about which we might reflect this evening. Or not, as the case may be.

Thanks so much for writing js1138!

634 posted on 06/13/2007 4:18:11 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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