Posted on 05/16/2007 2:16:27 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
When visiting Duncan Hunter’s website today, you’ll notice that prior to going to the main site there is a screen with a quote about Jerry Falwell. If you look at the title of that page in your browser’s menu bar it says:
Chuck Hagel Official Web Site - watch latest news on Hagel.tv please contribute,…
The title bar from Chuck Hagel’s official site (hagel.tv) says the exact same thing as the vandalized title on Hunter’s site (including punctuation):
Chuck Hagel Official Web Site - watch latest news on Hagel.tv please contribute,…
Developing…
Sabotage...?
Hunter ping.
Okay, at both debates, Hunter got slighted in terms of allotted time...and now this?
Soemthing stinks.
I’m sorry, but a supporter of a third-tier non-candidate hacking the site of a second-tier (though admirable) candidate is more than pathetic.
To be honest, I’d be shocked if it were one of the 4 Hagel supporters. It’s probably a leftie who didn’t want to make it so obvious it was a leftie.
Well that tells us all we need know about Chuck Hagel, doesn’t it?
I suspect Chris Matthews because facing Duncan Hunter mad him soil his underroos.
I agree. Smells to me like Hagel is simply a “secondary mark” of someone who hates both Hagel and Hunter.
>Okay, at both ebates, Hunter got slighted in terms of allotted time....and now this?<
I think the leftists are wetting their knickers because they know Duncan Hunter can beat any Dinorat hands down.
Chuck Hagel doesn’t stand a chance.
No, I still have it. Not in my cache either. I have it in 3 different browsers.
Hagel wouldn’t do it, but I’m willing to bet there are some anti war types (could be Hagel supporters that would)
Now it has the graphic; but says “The Official Site of Duncan Hunter for US President in 2008” in the title menu.
Maybe the webmaster is just working on the site?
Hagel has even one supporter?
I don’t know.
Hopefully this shows up in the news, at least Duncan Hunter should get some exposure out of it.
The IP address for www.hagel.tv is 207.97.249.175.
It is possible that both sites are hosted on the same computer. Sabotage cannot be ruled out, but it could also be a bug in the hosting system, or an administrative error.
A Duncan Hunter
http://taylorwood.townhall.com/Default.aspx
I must have missed something.
All I see is a tribute to Jerry Falwell.
Never mind.. I got it now.
Schmagel ... what a schmuck.
There will be much more of this (if it’s true) stuff, especially when Duncan Hunter starts getting more recognition and air time.
When I build a Web page, I rarely start from scratch -- I use a template that I've already tested and debugged, and then change what needs to be changed. The <TITLE> tag is one of the easier ones to miss, because it doesn't appear in the body of the browser window.
For the main design of the site, both campaigns almost certainly used an advertising and consulting firm. Such firms almost always have a partisan or ideological affiliation, so it's unlikely that the same company would have built both Hunter's and Hagel's Web sites. But hosts are usually techies who don't choose clients based on site content, and both sites, according to a traceroute, are hosted by rachkost.com.
But for a relatively simple change that needs to be done fairly quickly -- like putting up a splash page to react to breaking news -- they might have gone straight to the hosting company. If Hagel had a simple splash like that at some point in the past, a coder on a tight deadline would be likely to grab that as a template.
I find sabotage highly unlikely, because if someone managed to get access to the code, why change the title and stop there?
Don't be so sure. Hagel is a weasel.
On “Special Report with Brit Hume” tonight, they were going through the candidates and giving their impressions. They flashed Hunter’s pic for a second max as Brit introduced him, Barnes said “He always does well, he’s good on the issues, defense in particular”, and I heard someone (Krauthammer?) say “He should drop out of the race.” They then moved on to Gilmore. At the end, Krauthammer said Hunter nailed the immigration issue over Tancredo.
I was in and out of the room during the debate, but I was pretty annoyed that Hunter was getting NO QUESTIONS/ATTENTION when they seemingly kept going back to Huckabee, even Thompson. Please.
You couldn’t help but notice that. What was it, 3 questions? and 2 having to do with trade with China. He was never asked about anything else besides homeland security, which is a duh!! Plus, McCain slighted him when he said something about it taking a retired military person to be CIC at a time of war. He completely ignored the fact that Hunter is also in that brave category!
“Republican Debate: SC Edition
Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.): I love Duncan, but geez, the guy only got 2 or 3 questions. Best thing I love about Hunter is he’s presidential. He has the charisma and the balls. And his voting record shows he’s very consistent.”
That is a quote from your link, which I second!
Posted this once before, so it seems we are not alone in feeling that way. How is that precious little baby, BTW?
I think your explanation sounds most reasonable. Thanks for doing the research on the IP numbers.
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Chuckie Hegel is a rodent.
You could probably lure him into a trap with a piece of rotten cheese.
He’s also a crybaby, if I remember correctly.
“Okay, at both debates, Hunter got slighted in terms of allotted time...and now this?”
EXACTLY
JulieAnnie gets star billing and Wallace and his buddy throw most of the questions at him, McClown and Romney.
The answers Hunter gave were to the point, laconic and precise. He is the man who should be sitting in the White House.
My prediction is, that like Ronald Reagan, if JulieAnnie is nominated, he will loose to Hillery and Hunter will come back in four years to clean her clock. He’s one of the youger contenders - 58. McClown is 70 - this is his last chance to screw up things.
Like everyone on Fox, Krauthammer has become a Rudy shill. As much as I hate to say it, I’ve lost some of the great respect I used to have for him because of it.
“It is possible that both sites are hosted on the same computer. Sabotage cannot be ruled out, but it could also be a bug in the hosting system, or an administrative error.”
That is doubtful. If the entire page had been replaced, I would say that was a possiblity, but not when only part of the page is changed.
“I find sabotage highly unlikely, because if someone managed to get access to the code, why change the title and stop there?”
The longer you work on a website illegally, the better chance of getting caught.
I did a view source. The whole of the page consisted of the basic HTML wrappers and a link to a graphic. Nothing else.
It would have taken less time to change the message than to change the title. In any case, it would be a matter of a second or two. Select all, paste, send.
If this was an attempt at a defacement or vandalism, it's one that a fifth-grader would be embarrassed to admit to.
No one hacked the server. It was a foul-up on the part of some grunt on the night shift.
The entire page was replaced. The main page of the Hunter site was replaced -- more accurately, intercepted -- with a splash screen with a statement on Falwell's death, with a click-through to the main page.
The media dont want you to hear from Hunter because he would rise to top tier very quickly and they want “their” candidate to have no serious challenges or challengers.
Given the insane hatred demonstrated since about three minutes after word of Falwell’s death...I’d say its clearly an overt act by the leftwingnuts and kooks.
Whoever it is, there is no doubt that Duncan Hunter is the candidate feared most by the Demonrats and even the GOP is attempting to silence him. There is no excuse when Ron Paul and the others get allotted more time and even RESPECT than Duncan Hunter. Hopefully they are able to find out who sabotaged his site.
It has to rile someone like Hagel(and McCain) that Duncan Hunter also happens to be a Vietnam combat vet. Hagel wouldn’t be happy that Hunter stands in contrast to his attempts to have us lose the war.
Krauthammer can go to hell. The entire conservative movement can go to hell for the way they are treating Hunter. Hunter needs to “drop out of the race”?! All credibility is gone as far as I’m concerned and if they succeed in continuing to treat him like this and get the most qualified man out of this race early, I’m done with politics for good. I’ve been astounded at the way Duncan Hunter has been treated by people who should have a little more respect and supposedly stand for conservatism as they attempt to sell us on the Rudys and Romneys and try to give us the same old, same old with Fred Thompson who will prove to be a dull, drab candidate who is going to not live up to the hype.
>Hagel wouldn’t be happy that Hunter stands in contrast to his attempts to have us lose the war.<
Do you think we should be worried about Hagel? (Not) And I’m certainly not worried about McPain either.
Clearly. I mean, why would they alter the tribute to Falwell, when instead they could put a plug for Hagel in the title tag where almost no one will notice?
‘Clearly. I mean, why would they alter the tribute to Falwell, when instead they could put a plug for Hagel in the title tag where almost no one will notice?’
Trying to devine the intent of the insane is futile.
Applying common sense instead of paranoia isn't.
‘Trying to devine the intent of the insane is futile.
Applying common sense instead of paranoia isn’t.’
Uh...okay. No argument here as far as it goes.
The following is the source code of the Hunter splash page, in its entirety.
<html> <head> <title>The Official Site of Duncan Hunter for US President in 2008</title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff"> <center> <a href="index.asp"><img src="images/splash.new.gif" width="470" height="374" border="0"></a> </center> </body> </html>
That's it. That's the whole page. I've used more sophisticated code in FR posts.
To conclude that someone intentionally tampered with that page from the outside, but could only manage to change the title, you'd have to conclude that someone who had enough skillz to crack into the server suddenly became a gibbering idiot when confronted with the simplest HTML code EVER.
That's like believing that someone got past the angry Doberman, the burglar alarm, the lasers, and the sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads, and then didn't steal the jewels because he couldn't figure out how to open an unlocked dresser drawer.
sorry. I should have included you as a recipient on #49.
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