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3 days of minus 20 on an Arctic ice floe [where's the Global Warming?]
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 16, 2007 | Tomas Alex Tizon, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 05/18/2007 12:00:35 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Speaking of global warming hysteria, here it is the middle of May and I have to put on a heavy jacket to go outside here in New England. It is a cold, raw 42 degrees this morning and we will be lucky if the high temperature reached 50 degrees. It promises to be a cold, dank weekend as well.

Won't Algore send a little global warming our way? At least for the weekend just so I can have a barbeque and sit outside in my yard without freezing my butt off here in the middle of May!

21 posted on 05/18/2007 3:15:14 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 74 days away from outliving Curt Hennig (whoever he is))
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To: kbingham
The hottest days/weeks/years on record are those most recent.

Because, in geologic terms, the only records are recent ones.

22 posted on 05/18/2007 3:15:57 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: kbingham
the idea that ‘nothing is happening’ isn’t tenable.

I don't know of anyone who says that nothing is happening.

The thing is, it's been happening for millions of years.

It is foolish to think that the way it is today (or was last year) is the way it should be tomorrow (or used to be a hundred years ago). The Earth is not constant.

Microorganisms weren't invented by van Leeuwenhoek (sp?) - he just invented a way to see them. They existed long before him.

23 posted on 05/18/2007 3:24:08 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Western Ohio, May 18, 2007 it’s 40 degrees here this morning.


24 posted on 05/18/2007 3:37:21 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

It’s 41 here in coastal Maine.


25 posted on 05/18/2007 3:40:22 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: kbingham

It seems like you’re already in your own negative feedback loop. Asserting that the sun will only get hotter ignores history and scientific observations.

Your assertion that the human population will “undergo a much needed reaping” puts you squarely in the camp of those who think it might be a good thing to assist in that reaping. Altogether a post in the same vein as someone in Germany in the 1930’s asserting that those Jews should “undergo a much needed reaping”.


26 posted on 05/18/2007 3:45:08 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

maybe later ...


27 posted on 05/18/2007 4:53:18 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: HankReardon

Southern Michigan 36F this morning at 7am.

It was 42 yesterday and I rode my bike 16 miles to the office. I’d kill for a quick shot of global warming.


28 posted on 05/18/2007 5:13:18 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: kbingham
But I don’t understand why so many people just completely deny that anything is happening.

Few deny the Earth is warming just a little. But the real question is one of if the warming is a result of a gas in the atmosphere which has historically peaked 800 years after the temperature does.

Apparently, the increase in CO2 is an effect of the warming, not the other way around.

Mars is warming, too, and while I suppose one could make a case for the extreme impact of SUVs (there are two up there, sorta) chances are the effects are neither terrestrial nor Martian in origin, but from the likely source, the Sun.

Past climate cycles indicate that we are in a warming trend, one which started in the 1800s, and frankly, I am thankful we are. YMMV.

Humans adapt and thrive in these warmer cycles, not in the cold ones (when, incidentally, we would have to use more fuel to keep warm.)

If the liberals, environmentalists, and the rest really thought this was anything but a vehicle to cripple the industrial capability of the West, the restrictions cited in the Kyoto treaty would include all nations, not just those which have governments which are not openly Socialistic in nature.

Please relax and do more research.

29 posted on 05/18/2007 5:28:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: kbingham
There are phds who support the “inside job” 911 crap, so it doesn’t surprise me that you can find plenty of scientists who think we’re in a small cycle and that the planet is not heating up, or that it is heating up for an unrelated reason and will cool down soon enough. I think any such assertion is hogwash.

I am sure you do. Just as sure as those who imprisoned Gallileo.

Maybe the sun is going through a cycle, but the sun doesn’t heat and cool in the long run. It heats.

So a billion year trend negates short term fluctuations? Is this proposition published in any peer reviewed publication? Where lese in science or nature do you see this type of pattern?

we know that the consequences of having these gases in the atmosphere is that they will increase the energy in the atmosphere.

When an automoblie crashes, you can observe the damage. How often is it true that the damage caused the crash?

These sorts of negative feedback loops will run amock very quickly if the are going to run amock at all. And it seems to me that they are already starting; and this is really with most of the world not participating in this greenhouse death dance.

You speak with such authority on this. Please teach me about negative feedback loops. Do you have any peer reviewed publications or recognized scholarly works discussing this?

So...now that I have asked some questions are you goint to call me names?

30 posted on 05/18/2007 5:33:55 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: frithguild
It sounds like a lousy place for tourists.

Perhaps drilling for oil in the area might be a good idea.

31 posted on 05/18/2007 5:49:53 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: TYVets

You know, I was going to make that oint, but I had to get some data entered for reports first.

Does anybody know how many tourists visited the Artic National reserve in any given year?


32 posted on 05/18/2007 6:32:55 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: kbingham
It’s been warmer than now and cooler than now in the past.

It will be warmer than now and cooler than now in the future.

The sun’s life cycle is on a timescale that makes it insignificant to us.

Our contribution to total greenhouse gasses is insignificant.

We should still try to move past a petrochemical driven society because of who owns the majority of the petroleum.

All of these points are self evident..

33 posted on 05/18/2007 6:34:37 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: kbingham
150F by 2020,

Bwaahahaahahaha, hahaha ROFL, haha haha. Oh my god your such an idiot. hahahaaaa. Bwahahaaaa!

a global increase of 75 degrees plus ??? hahaaahaaaha, bwahahaaa. Your such a moron!
34 posted on 05/18/2007 7:02:40 AM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51

Now! Now! Be tolerant. Remember, half the population falls on the wrong side of the bell curve. Besides, he may be drunk.


35 posted on 05/18/2007 7:28:24 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (One doesn't have to regret the Enlightenment to be a conservative!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fedora; Fred Nerks; ...

Shiver me timbers, literally. Thanks E. ;’)


36 posted on 05/18/2007 9:20:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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