Posted on 05/18/2007 7:03:50 AM PDT by yoe
Around much “celebration,” the U.S. Senate announced on Thursday that a “deal” had been reached on “comprehensive” immigration reform. As I heard the details of the bill, I could feel the collective groans of the conservative movement, just as if we were all punched in the stomach. Why did we work so hard to build Republican majorities? Why did we spend so many hours at phone banks or going door to door? The past six years have seen an erosion of everything we’ve worked for, and now our “leaders” give us immigration “reform.”
Following announcement of the deal, President Bush said, “Immigration is a tough issue for a lot of Americans. The agreement reached today is one that will help enforce our borders, but equally importantly, it will treat people with respect. This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be treated without amnesty, but without animosity.”
Treat people with respect? You mean the millions and millions of Americans who don’t break the law and who are paying for illegal activity through their tax dollars? Oh, I see…
…“interior enforcement” of immigration laws. Provisions include:
– The stiffening of laws and penalties relate to:
* the detention of criminal aliens
* the definition of aggravated felony
* gang violence
* passport, visa, and immigration fraud, including marriage fraud
* the streamlining of background checks for immigration status
– Other provisions include language regarding:
* Increased penalties for illegally entry and reentry
* encouraging aliens to depart voluntarily
* prohibiting aliens to possess firearms
* alternatives to detention
* state and local law enforcement reimbursement and training
(Excerpt) Read more at gopusa.com ...
Careful, there, you might get deported...
They aren’t enforcing the laws we already have. Why will they enforce any of these new ones (other than the amnesty provisions, of course)?
Any talk of enforcement is just honey they put on the bitter pill to get us to swallow it.
Last time I checked, they were minorities specifically because the Always Whining thru a hissy fit last Nov and handed the Congress to the Democrats. You all wanted to "Teach the Republicans a lesson" well you are reaping what you all spent most of last year sowing so don't come crying to those of us who told you how stupid you were being.
If this passes can you say “The Death Of The Republican Party”?
The Minutemen.
It’s going to get a lot worse for you and your RINOS. Get used to it.
Agreed. I think there are going to be a lot of retirements from the senate and house in the next several years. Those dolts know that the end of the line is coming with the retirement of the boomers. I don’t care what you think of them, they are still the golden goose. When they retire all of this is going to come apart. I can’t wait to watch the reaction to WAY lower taxes being collected. All those illegal immigrants will have to fend for themselves instead of collecting welfare.
If the Republicans didn’t have their butt kissers who support them no matter what this wouldn’t be happening.
Well then after gettign spanked for doing ths crud do you rinos still keep it up?
Stop moving Leftward. Stop selling out our Country. Or else we'll keep hacking holes in the boat. We won't let you sell us down the river without a fight. You or your fellow traveler socialists in the DNC.
Probably the best enforcement would be automatic deportation for any illegal that has any contact with law enforcement.
Jaywalk and get caught? Deported.
I'll enclose a peso in the return envelope.
When I get punched in the gut, I can’t breathe or make a sound because there’s no air in my lungs.
It stinks and it’s a little scary. No groaning without air.
In 20 years or less, it will be the end of America as a representative republic, with the real possibility of outright civil war.
Keep in mind it is Bush and the Republicans who are leading the charge on this deal to pay off their big business buddies.
No point in electing Republicans if they’re no differennt from Democrats.
Time for the conservatives to bolt and form a new party. The Republican party will join the Whig Party on the scrap heap of history.
I think all communications with the Republican Party should be done in Spanish now....so they get the message (wishful thinking there, I'm sure)
It is too bad there isn't a natural home for conservatives any longer. We were the silent majority and the moral majority. Now we are the apathetic majority hoping for cadidates we can support. Say what you will about poplularism and popular opinion, but when we follow conservativism, we are always a stronger and better nation.
I’m not all up and up on the possibility of civil war, so who would fight who?
You all actively worked FOR the Democrats all last year by spending ALL your time screaming at the GOP for not being dogmatically pure enough on Immigration. Well now you got the consequences of your actions. You were too busy screaming bile at everyone to support your political allies and now you have a Democrat controlled Congress that will pass this bill the House GOP had killed last year.
NOW, the Lefts have the votes to pass this thing and the ONLY thing standing in the way is a fillibuster that the GOP Senators are threatening. So what is the response? Same stupid screaming at the GOP!
YOU people are your own worst enemies. To arrogantly sure of your own infallibility to realize how utterly stupid it is to spend all your time sniping your own.
I am thoroughly, completely, utterly disgusted with W. 2008 can’t come soon enough - and I voted for him in 2000 and 2004. Today, you seriously couldn’t pay me to vote for him.
“the Always Whining thru a hissy fit” (MNJ’s stock invective)
“Well the day is finally here. It is a day where our Congress and *our President* have come together to grant legal residency and then citizenship to millions of illegal aliens who broke the law. Criminals in this country will be on a fast track to becoming citizens, with the same rights and benefits as you and me.” (from the earlier Boortz thread)
`Ornery and stoopid is no way to go through life, MNJ.’ Dean TD
Anyone who doesn’t realize that the drive-by media spent much of the ‘06 election promoting the “You’re not conservative enough!” trope to set Republicans against one another will probably fall for the same thing in ‘08.
The choice between putting up with a few RINOS running around, or both houses of Congress in control of the Democrats, was a complete no-brainer.
Thanks again, “protest voters.”
Pretty typical. The Always Whining simply look for the next scapegoat rather then looking in the mirror to see who is the REAL cause of their political woes.
My invective was aimed at you, MJN, not a scapegoat.
“They aren’t enforcing the laws we already have. Why will they enforce any of these new ones”
Trust us, trust us! Say the backers.
I will not vote for democrats because they are liberal, and now the same reson holds true for many republicans.
Just think of some of the economic / cultural / idological fault lines that have developed over the last few decades. There’s plenty of resentment to go around. Blacks, the reconquista crowd, disaffected entitlement types, frothing-at-the-mouth anarcho-leftisties, and the opportunists who’ll take advantage of any sort of conflict. When the shooting does start, it’s going to be weird and complex. And no less tragic for all that.
And you keep cheerleading their leftward march...
Kinda makes you the enemy doesn't it.
that is what I’m thinking. It is time for a new party to form. If the real conservatives will step out, form a new party, we will follow them if they lead us that direction. The Republican party is clearly split now. It is heartbreaking to see this. This country may go through hell for a bit, but the new party will come out strong and eventually take over IMO.
The Republican party is gone and is over.
But we have a Rep President who will uphold the constitution and the rule of law. Surely he will not sign a bill that legalizes immediately the status of 12 to 20 million people who violated our laws in multiple ways. I am sure Bush will veto this one and not go against the majority of his own party. Thank God we still have a Republican President.
What specific races would the Reps have won based on your theory that Reps were trying to teach their fellow Reps a lesson?
That’s funny, you calling those dissapointed with the GOP the “Always Whining”, since you RINOs drag out that same chestnut every day. Right, if we had just bent over one more time for the RINOs, everything would be flowers and unicorns right now. We tried that for years and it got us nowhere. We did not screw over the GOP, they screwed us and we are finally getting fed up. I think you forget who works for whom.
I’ve thought this for a long time. Scary, isn’t it!
Apparently, you haven't caught the "Bush hails Senate immigration deal" thread yet?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835626/posts
To be mild, a veto sounds unlikely.
Apparently, you missed my sarcasm.
My bad. And, in retrospect it was laid pretty thick, too. Disappointment and frustration has clouded my mind, it seems.
So says the Chief Whiner. You can slither back under your rock now. Blackbird.
An interesting claim which flies in the face of everything I knew about the '06 election. Please substantiate. Enlighten me, which MSM outlet was claiming that some Republicans weren't conservative enough?
Or are you alluding to the "fact" that Conservatives can't adhere to our principles without being spoonfed by the "drive by media"?
APf
The RINOs and their supporters want power for no other reason than a simple blind lust for power.
If I had listened to them in the last election I would still be stuck with that piece of crap Joe Schwarz who made it pretty clear that he didn’t care what his constituents wanted.
Government is not your friend.
Good one! :0)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.