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Canadian Snowbird jet crash at Malmstrom base in Montana
Canadaeastonline.com ^ | Friday May 18th, 2007 | CP

Posted on 05/18/2007 5:32:41 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Canadian Snowbird jet crash at Malmstrom base in Montana

GREAT FALLS, Mont. (CP) - A Canadian Forces Snowbird jet plane has crashed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana while rehearsing for performances this weekend.

Lieut. Jeff Noel, a spokesman for 15 Wing Moose Jaw, said the jet crashed around 4 p.m. Friday. Noel would not give any information on the condition of the pilot.

Noel said all those participating in the practice run in Montana were veterans, though he couldnt say exactly how many aircraft may have been in the air at the time of the incident.

"That information is being compiled right now," Noel said.

"They did recently accept three new pilots into the program but those pilots wont be flying with the program until next year."

Witness Gillian Scarber said she was driving into Great Falls and observed a group of four or five planes practicing a formation when one of the planes crashed into the ground at the south end of Malmstrom's main runway.

The plane was coming down on a vertical loop, she said.

"It just smacked into the ground, and there was a big ball of flames," Scarber said. Smoke drifted across the highway as emergency crews raced to the scene, she said.

Witnesses said they saw no signs of a parachute and presumed the pilot was in the plane when it crashed.

No further information was available.

The Snowbirds perform high-speed, low-altitude maneuvers in nine Canadair CT-114 Tutors and are part of the Canadian Air Force.

The team was scheduled to perform Saturday and Sunday in Great Falls at Malmstrom's open house and sport auto-rama.

An event organizer said the open house would continue as scheduled, but it was uncertain if the Snowbirds will perform.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: canada; crash; malmstrom; malmstromafb; snowbirds
Prayers up for the pilot.
1 posted on 05/18/2007 5:32:43 PM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: Aeronaut; Pukin Dog

Ping.


2 posted on 05/18/2007 5:33:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

One of the finest and classiest aero demo teams I have ever seen. Too Bad.


3 posted on 05/18/2007 5:36:19 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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4 posted on 05/18/2007 5:40:43 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Snowbirds

5 posted on 05/18/2007 5:43:01 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: buccaneer81

I was stationed there from Feb 77 to Feb 79 in the USAF and saw the Thunderbirds perform one year.


6 posted on 05/18/2007 5:53:41 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: buccaneer81

God bless.


7 posted on 05/18/2007 5:56:30 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: A.A. Cunningham

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070518/NEWS01/70518020

A Canadian Forces Snowbird plane, rehearsing for two shows this weekend at Malmstrom Air ForceBase, crashed about 4 p.m. on the south end of the base’s main runway, killing the pilot. ...

A Geyser woman coming into Great Falls on Highway 87/89 observed a group of four or five planes practicing a formation when one of the planes – coming down on a vertical loop – crash into the ground.

“It just smacked into the ground and there was a big ball of flames,” said Gillian Scarber. Smoke drifted across the highway as emergency crews raced to the scene, she said.

Eyewitnesses said they saw no signs of a parachute and presume the pilot was in the plane when it crashed.

Greg Dart, head football coach for Great Falls High School, was sitting in his car on Highway 87/89 just outside the air base when three of the Snowbirds approached, flying low.

“My son said, ‘Dad, look at their wings’,” he said. “And as I looked, the wing wiggled up and it went straight down.

“It was less than a second before it hit the ground,” Dart said. “There was a thud, then the shock wave of it hitting. After that, there was a big black cloud and the smell of jet fuel.”

“The two planes came back, circled over the top and then went on,” he said. “I didn’t see a chute — that was the first thing I looked for — but I didn‘t see anything. And they were so low that I can’t imagine anyone getting out.”

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8 posted on 05/18/2007 5:57:25 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: buccaneer81

I saw them before. They have a great show.


9 posted on 05/18/2007 5:59:25 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: buccaneer81

G-LOC?


10 posted on 05/18/2007 6:04:48 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: JoeGar
G-LOC?

Always possible when flying a fighter.

11 posted on 05/18/2007 6:30:44 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Yes ... prayers.


12 posted on 05/18/2007 6:31:06 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: buccaneer81
With the Blue Angels' crash a month back, it's been a rough period for flight demonstration teams.

R.I.P....

13 posted on 05/18/2007 6:45:49 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration."- unknown)
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To: buccaneer81

Sorry to hear this...these guys are the best of the best.


14 posted on 05/18/2007 6:59:30 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: buccaneer81
"Always possible when flying a fighter."

Well, yeah, but they weren't.

15 posted on 05/18/2007 7:06:21 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: buccaneer81; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...
More coverage here.

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16 posted on 05/19/2007 7:40:32 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: diogenes ghost

Does it matter? I suspect they pull similar G’s.


17 posted on 05/19/2007 12:19:41 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: NorthOf45
"I suspect they pull similar G's."

Nope, not by a long shot.

Ever see one of their shows? They play off the docile handling of the CT-114 by performing a very slow and gracefull show, almost musical, which they perform to.

Always with lights on, usually with smoke, always gracefull, never exuding strength.

They fly then, to the capabilities & strengths of their planes, which do NOT include high speed & high G maneuvers.

18 posted on 05/19/2007 6:29:53 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost
Always with lights on, usually with smoke, always gracefull, never exuding strength.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Right you are, and the Snow Birds are a creation of successive Liberal Socialist Canadian Goverments beginning with Trudeau. Rather than the predatory word Hawk ( the former icon of RCAF teams such as the " Glolden Hawks", the predecessors of the " Snowbirds.")the libs picked the softer " Snowbird."

Now it will take conservative Canadian Prime Minister Harper many years to acquire new CAF fighter aircraft, and recreate a more aggressive tactical aircraft demonstration team. We can only hope.

Here is the way it used to be in Canada:

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This accident was a terrible tragedy, and my heart goes out to the pilot's family. I hope the accident was not a result of an aging aircraft, which I doubt. The TUDORS are generally kept in tip top shape.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Hawks

19 posted on 05/20/2007 9:30:02 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: buccaneer81
G-LOCK?

Is that Ground Lock or G-Lock in terms of the number of negative Gs being generated on say pulling out of a loop?

You're talking mechanical malfunction or pilot error?

20 posted on 05/20/2007 9:36:18 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: Candor7
The plane was coming down on a vertical loop, she said.

G-Lock in terms of the number of negative Gs being generated on say pulling out of a loop?

Fairly common during aerobatic maneuvers. He could have just been too low for the loop.

21 posted on 05/20/2007 10:06:33 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Candor7
Sorry, but the name "Snowbirds" fits them well, especially when they travel South of the border. Canada has too few fighters to use them for demo team.

By the way, my old man was in RCAF, flew Spits during Battle of Britain, until he was shot down with a broken back.

22 posted on 05/20/2007 12:54:16 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost
Spitfire and Hurricane pilots were my heros growing up. Art Jewett, a family friend flew them after the Battle of Britain, he was from Sackville, New Brunswick.

Lord Beaverbrook was the Chancellor of UNB. I met him once as a boy at the Beaverbrook Art Gallery in 1958. He asked me what I would be when I grew up, and I said, "an Air Force Pilot," not knowing then how interesting that might have been to him. He had help create an heroic myth thet boys wanted to emulate, but I doid not know that until much later.

The spirit of the Battle of Britain inflamed our souls, and many of us were in the Royal Canadian Air Cadets, under the instruction of men who served and flew in the RAF during the War.

I tried to get into the RCAF, but that was during the period when they would not take anyone who wanted to be aircrew, there were not enough aircraft. I tried out of high school in 1967, and again out of UNB in 1975. The French recruiters discouraged me both times, suggesting that I should be bilingual.

I still have several toy Spits on my living room table.

23 posted on 05/23/2007 3:18:37 PM PDT by Candor7
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