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S. 1348: FULL TEXT of the comprehensive immigration reform bill
Library of Congress ^ | 5/9/2007 | Sen Reid, Harry

Posted on 05/19/2007 8:34:18 PM PDT by LFOD777

Let's get to work! Time to uncover the fine print in this monster Comprehensive Invasion Bill


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1348; aliens; amnesty; amnestybill; comprehensive; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; immigration; openborders; s1348; shamnesty; sovereignity
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To: texastoo
SEC. 114. IMPROVING THE SECURITY OF MEXICO'S SOUTHERN BORDER.

(a) Technical Assistance- The Secretary of State, in coordination with the Secretary, shall work to cooperate with the head of Foreign Affairs Canada and the appropriate officials of the Government of Mexico to establish a program--

(1) to assess the specific needs of Guatemala and Belize in maintaining the security of the international borders of such countries;

(2) to use the assessment made under paragraph (1) to determine the financial and technical support needed by Guatemala and Belize from Canada, Mexico, and the United States to meet such needs;

(3) to provide technical assistance to Guatemala and Belize to promote issuance of secure passports and travel documents by such countries; and

(4) to encourage Guatemala and Belize--

(A) to control alien smuggling and trafficking;

(B) to prevent the use and manufacture of fraudulent travel documents; and

(C) to share relevant information with Mexico, Canada, and the United States.

(b) Border Security for Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico- The Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall work to cooperate--

(1) with the appropriate officials of the Government of Guatemala and the Government of Belize to provide law enforcement assistance to Guatemala and Belize that specifically addresses immigration issues to increase the ability of the Government of Guatemala to dismantle human smuggling organizations and gain additional control over the international border between Guatemala and Belize; and

(2) with the appropriate officials of the Government of Belize, the Government of Guatemala, the Government of Mexico, and the governments of neighboring contiguous countries to establish a program to provide needed equipment, technical assistance, and vehicles to manage, regulate, and patrol the international borders between Mexico and Guatemala and between Mexico and Belize.

(c) Tracking Central American Gangs- The Secretary of State, in coordination with the Secretary and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, shall work to cooperate with the appropriate officials of the Government of Mexico, the Government of Guatemala, the Government of Belize, and the governments of other Central American countries--

(1) to assess the direct and indirect impact on the United States and Central America of deporting violent criminal aliens;

(2) to establish a program and database to track individuals involved in Central American gang activities;

(3) to develop a mechanism that is acceptable to the governments of Belize, Guatemala, Mexico, the United States, and other appropriate countries to notify such a government if an individual suspected of gang activity will be deported to that country prior to the deportation and to provide support for the reintegration of such deportees into that country; and

(4) to develop an agreement to share all relevant information related to individuals connected with Central American gangs.

(d) Limitations on Assistance- Any funds made available to carry out this section shall be subject to the limitations contained in section 551 of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations Act of 2006 (Public Law 109-102; 119 Stat. 2218).

I wonder how much this will cost our children and grandchildren. It irritates me to see the picture of Kennedy, McCain, Graham all laughing. These jacka$$es are responsible for this as they have been in Congress for 20 years doing nothing and let this illegal mess happen. The

51 posted on 05/19/2007 10:53:22 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: goodnesswins

Did you notice that this whole thing is funded, except were it calls for increased manpower for enforcement then it states “ Subject to the AVAILABILITY OF APPROPRIATIONS”
Guess what they are not going to have funds for.


52 posted on 05/19/2007 10:55:43 PM PDT by Peacekeeper357 ( When Gore and the rest of the Limousine Liberals Carbon Footprint match mine,we'll talk)
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To: calcowgirl

This is bad enough but the final language will be written by Agencies with a mission to continue to destroy America...


53 posted on 05/19/2007 11:02:30 PM PDT by tubebender (Watching grass dry and mowing the paint since 1933...)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
(b) Purpose- The purpose of this section is to establish a grant program within the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services that provides funding to community-based organizations, including community-based legal service organizations, as appropriate, to develop and implement programs to assist eligible applicants for the conditional nonimmigrant worker program established under this Act by providing them with the services described in subsection (d)(2).

What were the names of the "community-based organizations" who had a seat at the table when this bill was being worked on?

The groups that had input in the writing of this bill also stand to gain financially?

Oh, this bill smells worse with each passing hour...

54 posted on 05/19/2007 11:20:14 PM PDT by tgslTakoma (BS: Now THAT'S Activism, baby !!)
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To: texastoo

I don’t know about “North America” ... but “united states” (no capitalization) is included 17 times. :-(


55 posted on 05/19/2007 11:24:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: tubebender
This is bad enough but the final language will be written by Agencies with a mission to continue to destroy America...

Yep. Bad laws make for even worse regulations. :-(

56 posted on 05/19/2007 11:28:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
That’s a gem! Good work.
57 posted on 05/19/2007 11:47:43 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: LFOD777

BTTT


58 posted on 05/19/2007 11:58:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: texastoo
SEC. 117. COOPERATION WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO.

...

    (b) Cooperation Regarding Education on Immigration Laws.--The
Secretary of State, in cooperation with other appropriate Federal
officials, shall work with the appropriate officials from the
Government of Mexico to carry out activities to educate citizens and
nationals of Mexico regarding eligibility for status as a nonimmigrant
under Federal law to ensure that the citizens and nationals are not
exploited while working in the United States.

    (c) Cooperation Regarding Circular Migration.--The Secretary of
State, in cooperation with the Secretary of Labor and other appropriate
Federal officials, shall work with the appropriate officials from the
Government of Mexico to improve coordination between the United States
and Mexico to encourage circular migration, including assisting in the
development of economic opportunities and providing job training for
citizens and nationals in Mexico.

59 posted on 05/20/2007 12:22:59 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: LFOD777

Impeachment is getting closer.


60 posted on 05/20/2007 12:28:37 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

“`Sec. 1549. Alternative penalties for certain offenses

`(a) Terrorism- Any person who violates any section of this chapter—
`(1) knowing that such violation will facilitate an act of international terrorism or domestic terrorism (as those terms are defined in section 2331); or
`(2) with the intent to facilitate an act of international terrorism or domestic terrorism,
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both.”

“How about for life???”

I certainly agree, if we are talking about ‘terrorists’ as defined, historically. But don’t forget that there is at least one person trying to get legislation passed that in certain situations, redefines that term to include “vigilante” groups like the Minutemen.


61 posted on 05/20/2007 1:17:05 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: calcowgirl
Cooperation Regarding Circular Migration

Doing what the US Trade Rep said NAFTA would accomplish - keeping Mexicans in Mexico. But alas, that was to sell NAFTA. Now there’s good evidence that remittances does benefit the Mexican local economies and may slow/prevent migration. Why is Mexico’s socioeconomic failings OUR problem if we just enforce our own laws?

62 posted on 05/20/2007 1:24:31 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: LFOD777

PING for deep-dive on the new monstrosity immigration bill - see also:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836499/posts


63 posted on 05/20/2007 1:39:04 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: calcowgirl

$450 million for UAVs???

How many miles of fence could you pay for with that?!?


64 posted on 05/20/2007 1:42:23 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: tgslTakoma

“b) Purpose- The purpose of this section is to establish a grant program within the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services that provides funding to community-based organizations, including community-based legal service organizations, as appropriate, to develop and implement programs to assist eligible applicants for the conditional nonimmigrant worker program established under this Act by providing them with the services described in subsection (d)(2).”

The very ‘immigrant-rights’ lawyers writing this bill have written in their very own kickback!

Nice work if you can get it.

Thanks, Senator McCain, for stabbing taxpaying Americans in the back ... again.

PS. A question - how much of House bill passed in late 2005 is in there?


65 posted on 05/20/2007 1:52:29 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: LFOD777

Call/email/write/fax and say NO to Amnesty!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


66 posted on 05/20/2007 1:56:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: LFOD777

BTTT


67 posted on 05/20/2007 4:20:28 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: LFOD777

1) an assessment of the necessity of constructing such a system, including the identification of areas of high priority for the construction of such a system determined after consideration of factors including the amount of narcotics trafficking and the number of illegal immigrants apprehended in such areas;


AN ASSESSMENT OF THE NECESSITY???

That is...uhmm...doublespeak of the highest order.


68 posted on 05/20/2007 4:34:36 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: ca centered

My blood is boiling. It’s even WORSE than we thought!


70 posted on 05/20/2007 6:52:39 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

Now now. Always hope for best.

But prepare yourself for the worst, it’s at our door.

There is an earlier thread today about a British cop complaining about England having 4.2 million cameres around the country. And the day before that I’d brought up Orwells 1984. He was only a few years off. Yes the middle class will be pushed out. There will a ruling class and a peasant class. Social Security will be broke before long. Taxes will rise for those who pay them, but not for the “family values” folks.
Don’t mean to sound paranoid, but to use a line from a cockroach, archy,”it won’t be long now, it won’t be long”.


71 posted on 05/20/2007 7:44:04 AM PDT by ca centered
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To: texastoo

We have to further the integtration, doncha know.


72 posted on 05/20/2007 8:02:28 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

I’m so glad to see you posting against this legislation. Thank you.


73 posted on 05/20/2007 8:25:19 AM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: tgslTakoma
What were the names of the "community-based organizations" who had a seat at the table when this bill was being worked on?

"community-based organization" with "experience and expertise in meeting the legal, social, educational, cultural educational, or cultural needs of immigrants?"

Think La Raza and the ACLU, for starters.

These vermin work their hardest to destroy traditional American society, and we get to pay them for the privilege.

74 posted on 05/20/2007 9:10:21 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: LFOD777

From the perspective of employer profitability, the imbedded H-1B increase is one of the “crown jewels” of the proposed amnesty, S. 1348.

From the U.S. Senate Calendar for May 21, 2007,

UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGREEMENT (This is supposed to be used only for noncontroversial legislation - GN)

S. 1348 (ORDER NO. 144)

Ordered, That at 1:00 p.m., on Monday, May 21, 2007, the Senate resume consideration of the motion to proceed to S. 1348, a bill to provide for comprehensive immigration reform, and for other purposes; provided that the Senator from Alabama (Mr. Sessions) be recognized and have up to 3 hours under his control, and that following the Senator from Alabama (Mr. Sessions), the time until 5:30 p.m. be equally divided and controlled between the two Leaders or their designees.

Ordered further, That at 5:30 p.m., the Senate proceed to a vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to the bill without intervening action or debate; further, that if cloture is invoked, the motion be agreed to without intervening action or debate.

Ordered further, That relative to the cloture motion filed on the motion to proceed to S. 1348, the mandatory quorum required under Rule XXII be waived.

Ordered further, That the Senator from Alabama (Mr. Sessions) be recognized for up to 2 hours on Tuesday, May 22, 2007. (May 14, 16, 2007.)

_____

The H-1B increase provision is included in this draft, consistent with Senator Kennedy’s response at the Thursday Press Conference.

I suspect that the open-ended increase is hidden in paragraph (2)

I do not know why the title has been lined out in this version.

Gene A. Nelson, Ph.D.
__________________________________________________
For the May 17, 2007 draft at http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/immigration/files/immigration_consolidated_05.17.2007%20FINAL.doc
Here are the reviewers:

Bennett Courey
DHS
SAA
pw46572
jacob_g
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The Bennett Courey background is consistent with him being a reviewer of the proposed legislation.

http://www.nlpoa.org/Press%20Release.htm
Hispanic Agents of U.S. Customs File Class Action Against Department of Treasury Fri May 10, (2002)
Bennett Courey - Office of Chief Counsel Marc Weinberger - Office of Chief Counsel U.S. Customs Service Office: 202-927-6900 Cell: 202-425-4200
According to LinkedIn, Bennett is an Attorney at CBP. (Customs and Border Protection)
Lawyer / Firm Name: Marc Bennett Courey
Address: Washington, DC, 20229-0001
Phone: (202) 927 - 6900 This is for the office for CPB Chief Counsel
Fax: (202) 344 - 2950

M Bennett Courey received a CBP Commissioner’s award in 2003
According to the CPB website, Chief Counsel is Alfonso Robles at (202) 344-2990
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Here are the H-1B visa provisions, which are changed from those posted on May 9th at Thomas. The new visa cap levels match those disclosed in the May 18, 2007 Congress Daily update.

The Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2007

SEC. 419. H-1B STREAMLINING AND SIMPLIFICATION

(a) H-1B Amendments.- Section 214(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(g)) is amended-

(1) in paragraph (1) by deleting clauses (i) through (vii) of subparagraph (A) and inserting in their place —

“(i) 115,000 in fiscal year 2008;

“(ii) in any subsequent fiscal year, subject to clause (iii), the number for the previous fiscal year as adjusted in accordance with the method set forth in paragraph (2); and

(iii) 180,000 for any fiscal year; or

(2) in paragraph (9), as renumbered by Section 405

(A) by striking The annual numeric limitations described in clause (i) shall not exceed” from subclause (ii) of subparagraph (B) and inserting the following: Without respect to the annual numeric limitation described in clause (i), the Secretary may issue a visa or otherwise grant nonimmigrant status pursuant to section 1101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b) in the following quantities:”;

(B) by striking subparagraphs (B)(iv); and

(C) by striking subparagraph (D).

(b) REQUIRING A DEGREE. Paragraph (2) of section 214(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(i)) is amended-

(1) by deleting the comma at the end of subparagraph (A) and inserting in its place ; and ; and

(2) by striking subparagraphs (B) and (C) and inserting the following:

(B) attainment of a bachelor’s or higher degree in the specific specialty from an educational institution in the United States accredited by a nationally recognized accrediting agency or association (or an equivalent degree from a foreign educational institution that is equivalent to such an institution) as a minimum for entry into the occupation in the United States.”.

(c) PROVISION OF W-2 FORMS. Section 214(g)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(5)), as renumbered by Section 405, is amended to read as follows:

(5) In the case of a nonimmigrant described in section 1101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b) of this title

(A) The period of authorized admission as such a nonimmigrant may not exceed six years; [Provided that, this provision shall not apply to such a nonimmigrant who has filed a petition for an immigrant visa under section 203(b)(1), if 365 days or more have elapsed since filing and it has not been denied, in which case the Secretary of Homeland Security may extend the stay of an alien in one-year increments until such time as a final decision is made on the alien’s lawful permanent residence];

(B) If the alien is granted an initial period of admission less than six years, any subsequent application for an extension of stay for such alien must include the Form W-2 Wage and Tax Statement filed by the employer for such employee, and such other form or information relating to such employment as the Secretary of Homeland Security may in his discretion specify, with respect to such nonimmigrant alien employee for the period of admission granted to the alien.

(C) Notwithstanding section 6103 of title 26, United States Code, or any other law, the Commissioner of Internal Revenue or the Commissioner of the Social Security Administration shall upon request of the Secretary confirm whether the Form W-2 Wage and Tax Statement filed by the employer under clause (i) matches a Form W-2 Wage and Tax Statement filed with the Internal Revenue Service or the Social Security Administration, as the case may be.

(d) EXTENSION OF H-1B STATUS FOR MERIT-BASED ADJUSTMENT APPLICANTS.

(1) Section 214(g)(4) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(4)) is amended by inserting before the period:

; Provided that, this provision shall not apply to such a nonimmigrant who has filed a petition for an immigrant visa accompanied by a qualifying employer recommendation under section 203(b)(1), if 365 days or more have elapsed since filing and it has not been denied, in which case the Secretary of Homeland Security may extend the stay of an alien in one-year increments until such time as a final decision is made on the alien’s lawful permanent residence.

(2) Sections 106(a) and 106(b) of the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 — Immigration Services and Infrastructure Improvements Act of 2000, Public Law 106-313, are hereby repealed.

_________________

Another activist posted the following information

Perhaps inadvertently, it appears that a recent draft of the COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM text is on the web. I recommend saving as a local file:

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/immigration/files/immigration_consolidated_05.17.2007%20FINAL.doc


75 posted on 05/20/2007 9:32:24 AM PDT by DrGeneNelson (Learn more about the harmful H-1B visa program at JobDestruction.com)
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To: SE Mom

76 posted on 05/20/2007 9:34:08 AM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: LFOD777
Check this out.....

Section 601(h) Treatment of Applicants

(1) IN GENERAL —An alien who files application for Z-nonimmigrant status shall, upon submission of any evidence required under paragraphs (f) and (g) and after the Secretary has conducted appropriate background checks, to include name and fingerprint checks, that have not by the end of the next business day produced information rendering the applicant ineligible

(A) be granted probationary benefits in the form of employment authorization pending final adjudication of the alien's application;

B) may in the Secretary's discretion receive advance permission to re-enter the United States pursuant to existing regulations governing advance parole;

(C) may not be detained for immigration purposes, determined inadmissible or deportable, or removed pending final adjudication of the alien's application, unless the alient is determined to be ineligible for Z nonimmigration status; and

(D) may not be considered an unauthorized alien (as defined in Section 274A(h)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1324a(h)(3))) unless employment authorization under subparagraph (A) is denied.



ONE DAY to complete a background check and fingerprints or they MUST ISSUE the visa. Bet Those checks are going to be real rigorous. /sarc
77 posted on 05/20/2007 9:39:27 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: msnpatriot; calcowgirl; All
"Pass or no pass...."

Sounds exactly like Howie Mandel intoning "DEAL, OR NO DEAL?" to me!!!

78 posted on 05/20/2007 9:57:57 AM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: WOSG
How many miles of fence could you pay for with that?!?

Zero. Because they WON'T build one.
79 posted on 05/20/2007 10:35:49 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: James W. Fannin

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You’re very welcome, James.

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CLARITY is as...

...CLARITY does, perhaps..?

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AR

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80 posted on 05/20/2007 10:56:26 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Bryan24

There is nothing stupid about it. It is deliberate.

Hangingis too good for them.

I am listening to an audio clip of Zell Miller speaking about American patriotism, to cleanse my weary brain.


81 posted on 05/20/2007 11:16:44 AM PDT by HonestConservative (If Conservatism is dead, why are the candidates claiming to be one.Hunter/Thompson08)
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To: TomGuy

Good link, TG. The more I find out about this bill, the worse it gets. Major sell-out.


82 posted on 05/20/2007 2:02:30 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: SittinYonder
SEC. 645. ADDRESSING POVERTY IN MEXICO.

Why stop there? Why not just open the effing door and we'll all have a gardener and a maid.

83 posted on 05/20/2007 2:33:12 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: texastoo
"It looks like we will have to beg Mexico for a fence."

The sheer magnitude of this treasonous sellout by the U.S. Senate puts all of their jobs in jeopardy. Every Senator voting YES on this outrage is a traitor to the United States and should be treated as such.

84 posted on 05/20/2007 4:32:46 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; tubebender
"Global Warming!"

With these traitors, any excuse will do.

85 posted on 05/20/2007 4:40:19 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Prince Charles

LEt me get this right...

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, who violate AMERICAN LAWS are entitled to Visa’s faster than LEGAL American Citizens can get Passports??

WTF is wrong with this picture?


86 posted on 05/20/2007 4:43:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Czar

Even more so than I thought before! Apparently the text of this S.1348 that Thomas and GPO Access just put up on Friday/Saturday is NOT the “Compromise” deal that they are actually looking at. At NRO and Heritage yesterday, they posted a shorter (326 page) document. Much of the text is the same—but much is not or addressing in the Senate tomorrow. For example, this S.1348 does not have the famous “Z Visa” included. You can’t tell whether the compromise “draft” is a complete or partial document so these traitors don’t even want people to know what they are supposedly agreeing to!

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation.cfm


87 posted on 05/20/2007 5:21:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
"You can’t tell whether the compromise “draft” is a complete or partial document so these traitors don’t even want people to know what they are supposedly agreeing to!"

Each and every Senator who votes YES on this sellout of America is in breach of his/her oath of office and is comitting treason. Every one of these traitors should resign or be removed from office.

88 posted on 05/20/2007 5:26:51 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; James W. Fannin; AuntB; editor-surveyor; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
This is gonna be another one of them mentally crippled deals like the Senate passed by voice vote about the time I was born into citizenship in the center of this country that was GREAT, at that time.

Carry_Okie uncovered this disgraceful treaty that was ratified by voice vote that commits the USA to all this shameful GovernMental EnvironMental foolishness we find this nation struggling under at this time. (with piling on by Republican Schwartzenrenegger)

I wish he would come on this thread and refresh the particulars so everyone could see the far-reaching damage that has been done in my lifetime by our own Senators, so we could compare it to what they're getting ready to sneak through their house of ill repute, right now!!!

Every time they pass more and more stupidly stringent EnvironMental laws that trash out economy and you people sit out there at your keyboards thinking "they can't do that to us!" Just remember that they did do it in 1941 and they will do it again and even AGAIN, until you people make them stop it!!!

89 posted on 05/20/2007 5:42:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: SierraWasp

When Senator Sessions explains their vile intent in plain English, it curdles my blood. Carry_Okie has a way with words, as well.


90 posted on 05/20/2007 5:53:26 PM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: SierraWasp
"Carry_Okie uncovered this disgraceful treaty that was ratified by voice vote that commits the USA to all this shameful GovernMental EnvironMental foolishness we find this nation struggling under at this time. (with piling on by Republican Schwartzenrenegger)"

This "voice vote" stuff is SOP whenever our treasonous Senators are too ashamed for a recorded vote, and want political cover from the wrath of the voters. Voice votes should be forbidden on all matters of substance.

91 posted on 05/20/2007 5:55:33 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: SierraWasp; All

Got this list of 800#’s for congress in an email. I haven’t tried them all.

Call all of the Senators today - leave a voice mail.
Demand they vote against cloture on Monday. How
can anyone possibly digest over 10,000 pages of
information in two days? The new bill is about 1,000
pages and it refers to other bills and laws which would
require the reading of more than 10,000 pages of
information.

Toll free numbers are:

1-877-851-6437
1-800-833-6354
1-888-355-3588
1-866-220-0044
1-866-808-0065
1-877-762-8762
1-800-862-5530


92 posted on 05/20/2007 6:02:16 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
What good will it do? They ALL know how we feel about this puss!!! They've been hashing and re-hashing this since Reagan signed that abortion Simpson-MazollaOil thing in 1986 that they had to push Pete Wilson's gurney from the hospital to get that idiot to vote for (which he should NEVER have done!) as another disgraceful RINO act against America.

It just never stops, I don't care WHO we work to get elected, or who we punish by withold our un-earned voting franchise!!!

But you're right! We should do right anyways!!! Let's call 'em!!! But's let's be pursuasive, rather than just threatening this time and see it that works just this once. (grin)

93 posted on 05/20/2007 6:09:52 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: LFOD777

Bump for later.


94 posted on 05/20/2007 6:10:43 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: AuntB

What really caused me to git totally pist off Friday was when I heard they shut off all their phones and email!!!


95 posted on 05/20/2007 6:11:06 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: SierraWasp

Because the opposition is well organized and calling. Do it so they can’t say, ‘but most of the calls were from supporters!’...bah!:<) And most of all, call because we still can!


96 posted on 05/20/2007 6:12:14 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: LFOD777
After just a quick read of the thread, without going to the current text, it is transparently clear that NONE of the Senators have read the bill in its entirety.

Furthermore, I wonder where the text and provisions originated. I can’t imagine that senate staffers did this all in the past few months.

Trying to ram this bill through the Senate and the House aided and abetted by this administration is nothing less than a coup d’etat, overthrowing the citizens rights to govern themselves.

Had a similar edict with regard to French Canada come from the Houses of Parliament and King George III, an immediate call to arms would have gone out among the colonies.

Any honest and sane citizen should be outraged at the process and at the provisions buried in this Surrender Document. These stupid bastids are laying a powder trail to a potential conflagration that will make 1860-1865 look like a toddler’s spat.

97 posted on 05/20/2007 6:34:54 PM PDT by Covenantor (Now we know how the Czechs felt after Chamberlain's 'deal')
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To: LFOD777
Write, call, email, fax... and DO NOT STOP. Build the tidal wave that we need to KILL THIS BILL!

Links and contact info:


CONTACT YOUR REPS NOW

MORE CONTACT INFO

Stop Amnesty Now!

98 posted on 05/21/2007 5:02:49 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Kozak

One day.... this whole thing needs to see the trash bin.


99 posted on 05/21/2007 6:03:38 AM PDT by The Mayor (http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Actually, General MacAuliff was the one who said “Nuts”...but Capt. Kinnard suggested it was the best response to send. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/810690/posts


100 posted on 05/21/2007 3:27:01 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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