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To: bnelson44
And most Saudis would replace them with a Wahabi caliphate. So, you advocating that, or is Ron Paul advocating that?

I've never heard Ron Paul advocate that...have you? What he does recognize is that the US government may not be able to control things to its liking in Saudia Arabia...or the broader middle east. I'm not so sure that "most" Saudis would replace the Saudi royal family with a Wahabbi regime...at least not if that became a realistic possibility. Wahabbism and a strict sharia-governed Islamic caliphate is like Communism...a repugnant ideology that would need to be forced on the Muslim people. As last years NIE stated, the jihadists greatest vulnerability is that the vast majority of Muslims

Four underlying factors are fueling the spread of the jihadist movement: (1) Entrenched grievances, such as corruption, injustice, and fear of Western domination, leading to anger, humiliation, and a sense of powerlessness; (2) the Iraq jihad; (3) the slow pace of real and sustained economic, social, and political reforms in many Muslim majority nations; and (4) pervasive anti-US sentiment among most Muslims.all of which jihadists exploit. Concomitant vulnerabilities in the jihadist movement have emerged that, if fully exposed and exploited, could begin to slow the spread of the movement. They include dependence on the continuation of Muslim-related conflicts, the limited appeal of the jihadists. radical ideology, the emergence of respected voices of moderation, and criticism of the violent tactics employed against mostly Muslim citizens.

The jihadists greatest vulnerability is that their ultimate political solution.an ultra-conservative interpretation of sharia-based governance spanning the Muslim world is unpopular with the vast majority of Muslims. Exposing the religious and political straitjacket that is implied by the jihadists propaganda would help to divide them from the audiences they seek to persuade
--Declassified Key Judgments Of The National Intelligence Estimate, April 2006

18 posted on 05/20/2007 10:52:09 AM PDT by Irontank (Ron Paul for President)
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To: Irontank
"I'm not so sure that "most" Saudis would replace the Saudi royal family with a Wahabbi regime...at least not if that became a realistic possibility" Most Saudis are Wahabist. And, yes, that is who would fill the vacuum. Are you expecting maybe Blair to be elected Saudi PM? :-) Anyway, so Paul is just advocating we run away from the middle east and let al-qaeda take over the oil fields, setup terrorist havens to launch attacks on the West, and allow Iran to run roughshod over the Gulf States and that somehow is in the US’s national interest?

Do you realize what you are advocating here? Does he? Sounds to me he hasn't thought this through, or worse yet, doesn't care that Western civilization just might be adversely affected.

19 posted on 05/20/2007 11:06:04 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Irontank
Four underlying factors are fueling the spread of the jihadist movement: (1) Entrenched grievances, such as corruption, injustice, and fear of Western domination,leading to anger, humiliation, and a sense of powerlessness; (2) the Iraq jihad; (3) the slow pace of real and sustained economic, social, and political reforms in many Muslim majority nations; and (4) pervasive anti-US sentiment among most Muslims.all of which jihadists exploit. Concomitant vulnerabilities in the jihadist movement have emerged that, if fully exposed and exploited, could begin to slow the spread of the movement. They include dependence on the continuation of Muslim-related conflicts, the limited appeal of the jihadists. radical ideology, the emergence of respected voices of moderation, and criticism of the violent tactics employed against mostly Muslim citizens.

The jihadists greatest vulnerability is that their ultimate political solution.an ultra-conservative interpretation of sharia-based governance spanning the Muslim world is unpopular with the vast majority of Muslims. Exposing the religious and political straitjacket that is implied by the jihadists propaganda would help to divide them from the audiences they seek to persuade
—Declassified Key Judgments Of The National Intelligence Estimate, April 200

Did you bother to read this or do you just repost the talking points the Paul campaign sends yous with NO clue what it says? What the above says, which YOU posted, is a complete refutation of Paul’s, and yours, Neo-Isolationist dogma. It makes it quite clear that a “Do Nothing” policy on the part of the US Govt, which is what you and Paul are advocating, would actively HELP the Whabbhists acheive their political goals!

So is Paul merely stupid or actively a traitor?

Perhaps you MIGHT try actually reading and THINKING about the facts next time?

27 posted on 05/20/2007 12:23:49 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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