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The inside story-McCain-Cornyn
Power Line News ^ | May 20, 2007 | Scott

Posted on 05/20/2007 3:07:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

The eruption of Senator John McCain at fellow Republican Sen. John Cornyn (TX) is an incident that reverberates on several levels. It renews lingering doubts about whether Senator McCain possesses the proper temperament to be president. It also raises serious questions about the substance of the "grand bargain" immigration bill that Senators Kennedy, Specter, McCain and others are attempting to rush through the Senate. (The written bill language was finally distributed to Senate offices early Saturday morning, 326 pages, still marked as a draft.)

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minor problem arose. Bush administration negotiators and a bipartisan Senate group had been meeting several days a week since February, often with glacial progress. (McCain rarely attended, though his staff was there.) As of Thursday morning, however, agreement hadn’t been reached. A final meeting started at 10 a.m. in hopes of finishing the deal. With a dozen Senators, two Cabinet members (Chertoff and Gutierrez) and perhaps 15 staffers in the room discussing an unpublished documents exceeding 300 pages in length, it was slow going. Senator Cornyn, tacitly supported by Sen. Jon Kyl, pushed hard to streamline legal procedures to allow prompt deportation of illegals. Senator Kennedy resisted.

-snip-As the clock moved closer to 1:30 p.m., Senator McCain suddenly lost it. "This is chicken****," he told Senator Cornyn. "I think it would expedite things if you would just leave the room, Senator, so we can get along with finishing this up." Senator Cornyn responded: "Wait a minute. We’ve been meeting for three months on this in good faith, and now you parachute in here this morning and tell me to leave? I think you’re out of line."

Senator McCain responded: "****you! I know what is going on here. I know more about immigration than anybody in this room!”

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: chickenxxxx; congress; cornyn; illegals; immigration; mccainmeltdown; nowaymccain; traitorjohn
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To: greyfoxx39

Just damn!


51 posted on 05/20/2007 4:58:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Thompson in 2008 - there is no doubt about it!)
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To: greyfoxx39

McCain seems to be following the Howard Dean path to self destruction. It won’t be long now before he is just another has-been.


52 posted on 05/20/2007 4:58:57 PM PDT by BigAlPro (Term Limits - It's time to flush the toilet in DC)
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To: greyfoxx39
As the clock moved closer to 1:30 p.m., Senator McCain suddenly lost it. "This is chicken****," he told Senator Cornyn. "I think it would expedite things if you would just leave the room, Senator, so we can get along with finishing this up." Senator Cornyn responded: "Wait a minute. We’ve been meeting for three months on this in good faith, and now you parachute in here this morning and tell me to leave? I think you’re out of line." Senator McCain responded: "****you! I know what is going on here. I know more about immigration than anybody in this room!”

I absolutely HATE my Senator. What a ****!

And before we make Cornyn a hero for the way McCain treated him, both Cornyn and Kyl were in that room trying to screw us. Sure, they put a little KY in the bill, but the result was going to be the same. Kyl used to be one of my favorites, but his willingness to sell out on the immigration issue, while not as bad as McCain's or Bush's, has been disappointing.

53 posted on 05/20/2007 5:01:28 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: greyfoxx39

McCain is a real bully. John Cornyn is a gentleman, and really does not deserve to be treated this way.


54 posted on 05/20/2007 5:03:15 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: BigAlPro
McCain seems to be following the Howard Dean path to self destruction. It won’t be long now before he is just another has-been.

One has to wonder if his physical problems have affected his mental health. Also, he is old enough to be a candidate for dementia to be closing in, and I have no doubt the POW experience has to have a bearing on his personality.

55 posted on 05/20/2007 5:03:19 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks congress and President Bush, I'm feeling very non-multi-culti today!)
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To: ZULU

As long as as they take McCain’s little “lap poodle” Lindsey Graham with them. I can’t wait to vote for the little poode’s opponent....


56 posted on 05/20/2007 5:05:08 PM PDT by FredRol
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To: Spiff
And before we make Cornyn a hero for the way McCain treated him, both Cornyn and Kyl were in that room trying to screw us.

Don't know Cornyn, but I lived in AZ for five years with Kyl. This is a surprise to me, especially after he was nearly defeated in November. Expecting to get some of those votes next time around?

57 posted on 05/20/2007 5:05:45 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks congress and President Bush, I'm feeling very non-multi-culti today!)
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To: Cicero
He is definitely an unstable narcissist.
58 posted on 05/20/2007 5:07:00 PM PDT by tiki
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To: greyfoxx39
Senator McCain hasn’t made a Senate vote in the past five weeks. But he wanted to be front and center when the immigration bargain was announced...

McCain's utter lack of political acumen is mystifying. This bill, if initial reports are accurate, has sent the Republican base into paroxyms of anger, and will probably torpedo whatever is left of his presidential ambitions.

59 posted on 05/20/2007 5:07:49 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
McCain's utter lack of political acumen is mystifying. This bill, if initial reports are accurate, has sent the Republican base into paroxyms of anger, and will probably torpedo whatever is left of his presidential ambitions.

Maybe he's considering a run as an independent...with Lindsay (light-in-the-loafers) Graham as his running mate...wouldn't that be a ticket, though! Wouldn't come as any surprise to me.

60 posted on 05/20/2007 5:10:38 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks congress and President Bush, I'm feeling very non-multi-culti today!)
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To: tiki
At first I thought it mught have been McCrazy pulling the back taxes provision. But it turns out to be the WH. I knew they'd have to go. After all who's going to process 15 million tax returns?

And yes, the $5,000 fine will go next, or at least the $4,000 to be paid later during the Z1 validity.

Which reminds me (and sorry for the bold), but these are questions we all must ask of this bill:

Who's going to process 15 million Z1 visas and 30 to 40 million Z2 and Z3 visas?

Where is the paperwork on 15 to 50 million applications going to be stored?

Who's doing verification on 15 to 40 million Mexican, and Honduran, Salvadorean birth certificates and other official identity documents?

Who's doing 15 million to 40 million NCIC criminal background checks?

Who's doing 15 to 30 million home-country criminal background checks?

Who's validating the "continuous employment" requirements of the Z1 visa?

Who's doing 15 to 40 million medical waivers (do they have TB and/or AIDS)?

Where are the personnel to handle the above?

Who's paying for this stuff?

61 posted on 05/20/2007 5:15:09 PM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor
Remember, all those Z1 background checks are required to be done within TWENTY FOUR HOURS!

Does anyone in the Senate realize what an unmitigated DISASTER that is going to be....??

62 posted on 05/20/2007 5:36:28 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: greyfoxx39
bump for later reading
63 posted on 05/20/2007 5:40:07 PM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Cyropaedia
Does anyone in the Senate realize what an unmitigated DISASTER that is going to be....??

I think they are going by the "don't ask, don't tell" rule here!

64 posted on 05/20/2007 5:46:06 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks congress and President Bush, I'm feeling very non-multi-culti today!)
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To: Spiff
All three of them are willing to damage this country. Only McCain is the craziest of the bunch.
65 posted on 05/20/2007 5:51:42 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: greyfoxx39
I think they are going by the "don't ask, don't tell" rule here!

LOL!

66 posted on 05/20/2007 6:11:46 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: HiJinx

Bttt!


67 posted on 05/20/2007 6:30:28 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Cyropaedia

Maybe that is the idea. This bill makes one wonder if it was drawn up by the insane or by traitors.


68 posted on 05/20/2007 6:34:16 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Maybe that is the idea. This bill makes one wonder if it was drawn up by the insane or by traitors.

They're not insane.

69 posted on 05/20/2007 6:43:04 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: greyfoxx39
This is significant because the current system has produced 600,000 absconders – those under a deportation order who have disappeared while remaining free, itself a separate crime.

If we can't catch and deport 600,000 multiple law breakers how in the world are we going to identify 12 million plus illegals, of whom at least a third are those who have let their visas or other temporary documents expire.
70 posted on 05/20/2007 6:50:01 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: Dante3; Prokopton
I have finally come to the sobering conclusion that Bush and Rove are simply contemptuous of the conservative base. There is no other rational reason for them being so hell bent on signing this monstrosity into law. Period.

From the standpoint of the Republican Party this bill is so disastrous in so many different ways I don't even know where to begin. And all of this is being done with the benefit of hindsight with regards to the flaws and failures of the disastrous '86 Amnesty.

Once this bill is signed it will irrevocably tip the balance of electoral power towards the Democrats. There will be no going back. The GOP will join Gray Davis in political oblivion.

F**k it. As someone said on another thread,

"... at least we won't have gay marriage in Ohio.".

71 posted on 05/20/2007 7:15:07 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: greyfoxx39
The brutality of the French Revolution - is making a lot more sense now...

Most of our own Congress Critters have reached the point where the guillotine seems an appropriate retaliation...

72 posted on 05/20/2007 7:37:16 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: greyfoxx39

And, as an aside to this amnesty outrage, “...Democrats’ $2.9 trillion budget plan, an outline for the largest tax increase in U.S. history.”


73 posted on 05/21/2007 5:53:56 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: Cyropaedia
Once this bill is signed it will irrevocably tip the balance of electoral power towards the Democrats. There will be no going back. The GOP will join Gray Davis in political oblivion.

Sometimes I wonder if that isn't the intention.

I have to wonder if McCain is so bitter and angry about not being elected in 2000 that he seeks revenge on the voters that shut him out. I think he is just crazy enough.

74 posted on 05/21/2007 7:39:54 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks congress and President Bush, I'm feeling very non-multi-culti today!)
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To: greyfoxx39
We’ve been meeting for three months on this in good faith, and now you parachute in here this morning and tell me to leave?

You just have to love that line.
75 posted on 05/21/2007 1:34:48 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: y'all

ping for later


76 posted on 01/08/2008 11:34:07 AM PST by DrewsDad (PIERCE the EARMARKS)
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