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US Ambassador Jones: 'Be Happy We Didn't Execute Pollard'
Arutz 7 ^ | May 22, '07 | Hillel Fendel

Posted on 05/21/2007 4:13:41 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: AmishDude
Clinton wanted this or Bibi for that matter.

Oh, I don't think Clinton cared one way or the other. It was merely a bargaining chip to him. I think that Netanyahu had little power to ask much of anything in the end.

51 posted on 05/22/2007 2:14:28 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Very astute. I think that was very much the case on both sides.


52 posted on 05/22/2007 2:40:18 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude
Of course, I asked the question because I knew the answer.

Gee. Imagine that. You answer questions you write for yourself.

There's the spirit of inquiry that separates the sage from the chauvinist!

As to you, you are at best ajerk and a bully and I have had it with your invective, abusive language and cherry-picking.

Oh cry me a river, Petunia. If you wanted someone to powder your bum, you should have been hanging out at pampers.com.

You're the one twisting quotes and making false accusations: not me. Furthermore, you've made it excrutiatingly obvious your "research" is intended to do nothing more than confirm your own prejudices. Every single point you've raised on this thread is ostensibly refuted on Pollard's own website.

Now might not the entire site be some kind of disinformation apparatus? Sure, it might be, but you demonstrate that by disproving their contentions: not pretending they didn't answer you.

Even more damning in your case, you weren't even aware they answered you, so what was your "analysis" worth?

53 posted on 05/23/2007 8:27:55 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger
What a fool. And I am very glad Pollard, the James Bond-wannabe is playing you. I’m really glad your sources are from “his” website, even though you never even provided me with a link and yet I am supposed to have it committed to memory.

Actually, you never addressed the point that I was making, that the country for which one is supposed to be spying for is irrelevant in sentencing. There's no correlation at all. But that’s good lawyering, change the subject.

Forgive me for just being a cynical guy asking a few questions, not someone with an encyclopedic knowledge of the case. Of course, if I were carrying water for a loser like that, I’d be much more concerned with post #48.

54 posted on 05/23/2007 12:27:04 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude
I’m really glad your sources are from “his” website, even though you never even provided me with a link and yet I am supposed to have it committed to memory.

Apparently you not only want someone to powder your bum, you want them to spoon feed you, too! Have you never heard of Google? Or are you scared you might have to follow more than one page of hits?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that just like FreeRepublic is a clearinghouse for news items, a good place to find items the Pollard side thinks is relevant to the Pollard case is the Pollard site. Or could it be that lurking around that tiny mind of yours is the absurd notion that people who believe they are being mistreated should recuse themselves from providing information that tends to support that belief?

Actually, you never addressed the point that I was making, that the country for which one is supposed to be spying for is irrelevant in sentencing.

And you never addressed my point that if Bobby Ray Inman hadn't gone rogue there would have been no spying in the first place...so we're even.

Forgive me for just being a cynical guy asking a few questions...

I didn't jump into this thread because you were just asking a few questions. I jumped into this thread because you were giving analysis on an issue you don't know enough about to even have an opinion.

if I were carrying water for a loser like that, I’d be much more concerned with post #48.

And if I didn't know the PBS recounting of events won't stand up to even the minimum amount of scrutiny, I would be too.

55 posted on 05/24/2007 8:33:00 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger
And you never addressed my point that if Bobby Ray Inman hadn't gone rogue there would have been no spying in the first place...so we're even.

No, that was just a distraction. And, according to post #48, Pollard was trying to give away any information he could, including the CIA cafeteria menu.

You're using an old debating tactic called "changing the subject and waiting a few millenia between posts.

56 posted on 05/24/2007 7:34:19 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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No, that was just a distraction.

Who are you, the Debate Fairy? Wave your magic wand and mitigating circumstances just disappear?

News Flash, sport...you don't get to define reality from your ivory tower. The fact you don't seem to know that makes me wonder if handling you with a butterfly net is more appropriate than a computer.

And, according to post #48, Pollard was trying to give away any information he could, including the CIA cafeteria menu.

I notice post #48 makes no mention of Pollard being arrested after he was turned away from the Israeli embassy, either. So what else do you think PBS might have missed?

You really should think twice before using them as a primary source.

You're using an old debating tactic called "changing the subject and waiting a few millenia between posts.

The only debating tactic I need is called "being informed." As I've alread said, it's excruciatingly obvious you'll only investigate a matter until you can support what you wanted to believe in the first place.

Instead of whining about me living a life instead of mopping the rhetorical floor with you, why don't you use that time to actually read some opposing viewpoints instead of hiding behind any flack that will tell you what you want to hear?

57 posted on 05/25/2007 7:54:28 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

It’s a short article.

And yet, you’ve only picked at irrelevant points that PBS seemed to have left out, without addressing the points that are actually there.

Brevity being the soul of wit, I note that your posts themselves are getting longer.


58 posted on 05/26/2007 5:40:00 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

I’m not trying to be witty...I’m also not trying to withdraw because I’m getting my rhetorical butt kicked.


59 posted on 05/26/2007 8:59:15 AM PDT by papertyger ("The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" -- wisdom for the ages by Wm. Shakespeare)
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I’m also not trying to withdraw because I’m getting my rhetorical butt kicked.

Then why are you trying to withdraw?

60 posted on 05/26/2007 4:38:49 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: The Blitherer

Here are the true facts:

http://www.jonathanpollard.org/facts.htm

I recommend that you read it.


61 posted on 07/31/2007 8:50:40 PM PDT by FreepersareproAmerica
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To: papertyger; gonzo; Grampa Dave; nuconvert
"In early 1981 when the Israelis bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor, I looked at the distance on the map from Israel and Baghdad and thought, 'I wonder how and where they got the targeting material?' We had long-established procedures that in honoring our commitment for Israel's defense, we permitted Israel to requisition satellite photography of potential direct threats to their systems. When I asked what materials had been drawn under that process for the last six months, I found not only a lot of information on Baghdad had been drawn, but also on other countries substantially removed from Israel -- Pakistan, Libya. And I made the decision as the Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, the acting director, to limit the process, to say that in the future they could draw material within 250 miles of the border, but beyond that, they would have to ask."

Inman was part of the Carter braintrust including Turner who canned 820 CIA humint officers Halloween 1977 from which carnage the agency has never recovered.

Doing Osirak took Saddam out of the nuclear race and for such a service to the world Israel was reviled.

From the Carter genus genius came Brzezinski with whom Gates coauthored the 2004 CFR paper "Iran: A New Approach" hence Gates is catapulted to DoD and we are looking for Peace in Our Time with a piece of paper bearing the signature of Herr Ahmadinejad--rather than catching the Natanz Spirit.

Now we have an Ambassador with a mouth and an Iran which provides the sophisticated weaponry to kill Americans every day of the week.

Neville Chamberlain doing stand up is no replacement for taking down that which must not stand.

But we'll have Gates and Condi chatting with Syrians and Iranians--who are killing Americans as they smile and lie.

62 posted on 07/31/2007 9:29:19 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: FreepersareproAmerica; papertyger

Click Osirak in Flames

63 posted on 07/31/2007 9:37:13 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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