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Very diplomatic indeed.
1 posted on 05/21/2007 4:13:46 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I’m waiting for Jones to make the same comments regarding Carter, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid and Murtha.


2 posted on 05/21/2007 4:15:16 PM PDT by SolidWood (Save America: Thompson/Hunter 2008)
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To: Nachum
Speaking at a conference at Bar Ilan University on Israeli-American relations, Jones said, "Pollard took money and sold out his country... The fact that he wasn't executed shows that he was treated mercifully."

Right on Jones!

3 posted on 05/21/2007 4:15:59 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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I know nothing about Pollard. I’ll have to research it.


4 posted on 05/21/2007 4:17:58 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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"For one thing," she told Arutz-7, "the U.S. has no death penalty for the charge on which Jonathan was accused or convicted. It has a death penalty only for treason - and Jones knows that Jonathan was never accused of treason.

Perhaps that is exactly what Jones meant. Perhaps authorities wanted to make sure that it wasn't possible for a judge to impose the death penalty and so they chose an option that would prevent that.

5 posted on 05/21/2007 4:18:27 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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I’m obviously as pro-Israel as a person can get, but Pollard was a spy and deserves to rot in prison.


6 posted on 05/21/2007 4:18:55 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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I’d like to buy Richard Jones a bottle of grand cru Bordeux. Pollard is a punk and a traitor. You can’t serve two masters.


7 posted on 05/21/2007 4:20:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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"The fact that he wasn't executed shows that he was treated mercifully."

That remark by our Ambassador to Israel was gratuitous and ill-considered. But it should be noted that the headline was not an accurate quote.

9 posted on 05/21/2007 4:21:34 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Nachum; SJackson; Alouette

I’ve always been a big supporter of Israel, but the Pollard and Liberty situations have always hit my hot buttons.


10 posted on 05/21/2007 4:25:38 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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thats what you gamble when you play high stakes spy game.

he knew the risks

he accepted a large sum of money

let him rot, or it will encourage others


12 posted on 05/21/2007 4:29:23 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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Conveniently, the arguments for Pollard are all in this article:

"For spying for a friendly country,"

Indeed true. However, if sensitive information is stolen from country A and given to country B, country A can no longer contain that information. Once Pollard passed on the information, the US needed to assume that it was in the ether.

"no one has ever received a sentence even close to the sentence that Pollard has served thus far - 22 years!

This is a lie. Many Americans have been executed for treason in history.

The remarks by Jones border on anti-Semitism and a hostile attitude towards Israel..."

This is pathetic and sad. Especially considering the real anti-Semitism that rockets over the northern border every few years.

"Israel was forced to employ Pollard as its agent," Ariel continued, "only because America betrayed our trust and hid critical information from us regarding chemical weapons and anti-Israeli terrorist plots in Arab nations, in blatant violation of agreements we had with the US which we kept in full...

I don't know to what extent this is the case. Certainly the pro-Pollard forces claim it. But Pollard, as a recipient of a very high security clearance knew the risk he was taking. This is the only way the government has to deal with violations of security clearances. If Pollard is given a deal because of international pressure, then there's no end to this.

The fact that Israel does not demand his release even after 22 years is endangering an agent that Israel sent on a mission

Actually, Israel should not demand his release for a simple reason: To send a message to their spies that if they get caught, the Minister "will disavow any knowledge."

He is also contradicting former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, who said that the charges against him were inflated to begin with."

Well, Cap's boss didn't pardon him. And come to think of it, Mrs. Pollard missed her big chance. I guess she couldn't scrape up as much cash as Denise Rich.

13 posted on 05/21/2007 4:36:55 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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We Want Pollard Home Now!"

From the article, we should be able to box him up and send him home shortly.

19 posted on 05/21/2007 5:25:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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By not executing Pollard others like Wilson and Plame, and the McCarthy woman, felt free to plot against the President and give classified information to their friends.
20 posted on 05/21/2007 5:31:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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"...implying that Jonathan Pollard committed treason or sold US secrets to Israel..."

Huh? Am I missing something here?

22 posted on 05/21/2007 5:48:12 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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He is a spy.


25 posted on 05/21/2007 5:57:23 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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Pollard supporters are enraged at US Ambassador to Israel Richard Jones for his remarks Monday morning, implying that Jonathan Pollard committed treason or sold US secrets to Israel.

Implying???????????

The SOB was CONVICTED. He should have been executed years ago.

28 posted on 05/21/2007 6:15:48 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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Pollard was convicted after a fair trial for a crime he has since admitted to. There is no "spying for a friendly country" involved, there is only the deliberate release of sensitive compartmented information which he had pledged not to release to anyone. The pledge he signed stated very clearly what the penalties were. There is no unfairness in this - other people got other sentences in other cases in other circumstances. That is irrelevant.

This guy knew the rules, played the game, and lost. He is a liar and betrayer of the deepest trust that a government can grant a citizen. No sympathy here, none at all.

34 posted on 05/21/2007 6:48:52 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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It is merely because Israel seems to have abandoned its agent in the field...

So they admit that they had an agent in the field? What's the problem then? He belongs in jail, period.

37 posted on 05/22/2007 9:36:01 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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The remarks by Jones border on anti-Semitism and a hostile attitude towards Israel..."

A few years ago, Jesse Jackson got into a rut where everything that displeased him was a reminder of Selma.

41 posted on 05/22/2007 11:04:20 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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"For one thing," she told Arutz-7, "the U.S. has no death penalty for the charge on which Jonathan was accused or convicted. It has a death penalty only for treason"

That's not true. We allow the death penalty for other crimes. Murder is the most obvious one.

It is merely because Israel seems to have abandoned its agent in the field that the American Ambassador feels he can get away with talking like this... And where is Israel?!" she asked. "How can it be that the US Ambassador says that an Israeli agent deserved to be executed, and Israel is silent?!"

If you don't understand the reactions of either side, maybe it's because your perspective is a bit off.

49 posted on 05/22/2007 1:12:56 PM PDT by Teacher317
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