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Did You See This from Mike Chertoff on Friday?
National Review ^ | May 21 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 05/21/2007 6:55:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy

MICHAEL CHERTOFF, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: You know, Wolf, first, I understand there's *** some people who expect anything other than capital punishment is an amnesty. *** The reality is the proposal here requires people who came in illegally who want to stay to pay a penalty. Like a fine. That's a punishment. That's not an amnesty.


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; chertoff; immigration
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Who the heck does he think we are? This jerk is the one lawyer NOT fired by Clinton (when he fired 93 others).
1 posted on 05/21/2007 6:55:24 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

The worst of it is that this is the clown we depend on to protect our borders. Jorge must have his head in a VERY dark place.


2 posted on 05/21/2007 6:56:53 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: PghBaldy

What colossal arrogance!


3 posted on 05/21/2007 7:02:50 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: PghBaldy
The reality is the proposal here requires people who came in illegally who want to stay to pay a penalty. Like a fine. That's a punishment. That's not an amnesty.

They're rewriting the laws so illegals can stay. It's an amnesty.

4 posted on 05/21/2007 7:05:40 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: vetsvette

Chertoff, IMO, is the Bush Admin official most to blame for problems with the federal Katrina response.


5 posted on 05/21/2007 7:07:19 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: PghBaldy

I did not trust Chertoff from the word go.


6 posted on 05/21/2007 7:07:24 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: PghBaldy

Fire the bastard.


7 posted on 05/21/2007 7:07:31 PM PDT by pissant
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To: PghBaldy

And the hits just keep on coming!

Chertoff - murderers
Graham - bigots
Bush - vigilantes
Martinez? - we will educate them on the bill

Folks these people are from our own party! How much more arrogance and elitism are we going to take? They stand there every day and tell us we are ignorant, racist, and bigoted simply because we don’t want our country invaded. What do the Democrats do when they have no argument? They start calling people names. The Republicans have fallen into that too now.

Well, they no longer represent me, they represent Mexico.

Well, they don’t represent me. I am ashamed to be associated with them.


8 posted on 05/21/2007 7:08:07 PM PDT by sheana
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To: PghBaldy

who does he think we are? Not, who. What. He thinks we are stupid. As in, we will take it (lying down, sitting up, squatting...) as usual


9 posted on 05/21/2007 7:08:17 PM PDT by onyx eyes (Think good things; and, good things happen. Because you work at them.)
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To: vetsvette
The worst of it is that this is the clown we depend on to protect our borders.

The proposed law would allow even terrorists and gang members to stay. The only thing these clowns are interested in protecting is cheap labor interests and the prison industry.

10 posted on 05/21/2007 7:09:38 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: PghBaldy

This is a new (not really) canard. I’ve watched many pols, talking heads and other pro amnesty folks saying that us extremists will only settle for mass deportation of 12-20 million illegals and that is not possible.

BS. I don’t expect that we can round them all up either. I do think that we can secure our borders and provide interior enforcement first, then prepare a system of employee verification that’s much less than a national ID. We can deport every illegal as they have run-ins with law enforcement. We can withdraw most incentives and then most illegals will self-deport. Then, if we still need cheap labor, we can invite them in from their home countries after careful screening.


11 posted on 05/21/2007 7:10:43 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: PghBaldy

I am rapidly losing all faith in this government. Are they morons are or are they just too crafty?


12 posted on 05/21/2007 7:10:43 PM PDT by claudiustg (I curse you, Rudy of the Giuliani!)
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To: PghBaldy
Enough is enough.. #@$% this crap.. I ain't voting just because somebody is a Pubbie anymore... you people have screwed the pooch......
if you’r in you’r out.......
Incumbents out ..period !!!!
13 posted on 05/21/2007 7:10:50 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: PghBaldy

Try this. We do fine speeders, not put them in jail. On the other hand, if they are still speeding at the time we try to give them a ticket, we usually chase them until the stop speeding, and if they do it too much we throw them in jail.

An illegal who walks into a room and pays a fine is still here illegally after they pay the fine. Unless of course someone passes a law that says that being here is no LONGER a crime.

I’d love it if I could just pay one speeding ticket and then I could speed all I wanted to.


14 posted on 05/21/2007 7:11:49 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PghBaldy

Chertoff is a buttlicker.

His total infatuation with The Swimmer is off-the-chart insane.
His handling of Homeland Security is off-the-chart insane.

Considering him as an advisor to elected officials in any capacity except personal valet is off-the-chart insane.


15 posted on 05/21/2007 7:13:15 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow. Tomorrow is always the busiest day!)
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To: dirtboy

The sad thing is he was a pretty good judge, and Bush HAD him on an appeals court, and he YANKED HIM OFF the courts. He hasn’t been able to fill that appeals court position with another good judge. So we lost a good judge to get Chertoff running the DHS.


16 posted on 05/21/2007 7:13:36 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PghBaldy

Chertoff (brought to prominence by none other than Rudy Giuliani, then was appropriated by GHWB, embraced by the Clintonistas, and then catapulted to his current position by GWB.

Want to know something really "funny"? He is being floated as a possible replacement for Alberto Gonzales, should Gonzales get the axe.

17 posted on 05/21/2007 7:13:41 PM PDT by M203M4
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To: PghBaldy
Like a fine. That's a punishment. That's not an amnesty.

This guy is one clueless idiot!


18 posted on 05/21/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by 50mm (la prensa dos en traducir mi línea de etiqueta al inglés)
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To: PghBaldy

As much idiotic hyperbole as Chertoff spews, it’s not half as bad as what Fred Barnes is saying.


19 posted on 05/21/2007 7:14:58 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: PghBaldy
I despise it when the politicians say you can't round up 12 million people and just deport them.I wish someone would pose the question,

"What would you do if these 12 million were al queda?"

Would you give them amnesty also?

20 posted on 05/21/2007 7:16:41 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: JoeSixPack1
Chertoff visited the nuclear lab in Livermore, CA a couple of years ago. In a Clintonesque move he insisted that they shut down the highway (580) out to Livermore to ensure his personal security, and he was very touchy about who at the lab could be near where he was (these are guys with clearances to work on nuclear bombs). What he forgets is that if it is unsafe out there it is HIS job to do something about it for the people.

Just another perfumed prince.

21 posted on 05/21/2007 7:18:54 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: PghBaldy

This administration has been a horrible disappointment. Michael “Skeletor” Chertoff is a disgrace. Just like his “awesome” buddy Ted Kennedy.


22 posted on 05/21/2007 7:20:51 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: PghBaldy
They don’t pay a fine based on what they’ve stolen.

They pay a small paperwork processing fee to stay, and an extra fee if they want a permanent green card.

They get rewarded. You don’t normally get rewarded through an amnesty process.

An amnesty is like in Australia, where they declared certain firearms illegal and you could turn them in without going to jail- that’s amnesty, you don’t go to jail but don’t keep the guns.

In this case the illegals pay the fee, and stay, so TECHNICALLY it’s not amnesty, it’s a gift. A nice gift, and they help out by paying some of the paperwork fees.

23 posted on 05/21/2007 7:21:14 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: vetsvette
The jerks is power are intent on having us overrun by Mexicans and others. Why the f**K is the NATIONAL GUARD being sent to Iraq while our borders are virtually wide open? We are being controlled by traitors and globalists! I’ve never had so much anger at an administration as this one. If this crap passes may as well call it a night. It will get very dark. They're all traitors.
24 posted on 05/21/2007 7:21:33 PM PDT by ca centered (should I dye my mustache black?)
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To: PghBaldy
That's a punishment. That's not amnesty.

Please tell me that this idiot is not really this stupid. Good grief, I can't stand these people anymore.

25 posted on 05/21/2007 7:21:41 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: PghBaldy

The name mike chertoff, the answer is the worlds most incompetent boob.


26 posted on 05/21/2007 7:22:09 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: NapkinUser

it’s not half as bad as what Fred Barnes is saying


I despise that little weasel....he turns my stomach.


27 posted on 05/21/2007 7:23:09 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: tapatio

You just create a system within the already existing Dept. that local LEOs contact when they locate someone who is illegally in the country. Any suspect that is, don’t even ask the victims so they won’t be afraid to contact the cops when they are victimized. But anyone booked into jail has their background checked for immigration/citizenship status.


28 posted on 05/21/2007 7:23:44 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry)
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To: PghBaldy

Keep it coming Chertoff.

These border bots need this for their pompous childish rants.


29 posted on 05/21/2007 7:24:32 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: 50mm

It is the American people who are being punished, first by the illegals themselves and then by the Congress who wants to turn a blind eye to our plight.

JUST BUILD DUNCAN HUNTER’S FENCE. IT THE DAMN LEAST THAT YOU COULD DO, CONGRESS.


30 posted on 05/21/2007 7:24:36 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: ca centered

Why the f**K is the NATIONAL GUARD being sent to Iraq while our borders are virtually wide open?


That’s the 800 lb. gorilla no one sees... >:(


31 posted on 05/21/2007 7:24:48 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: tapatio
"What would you do if these 12 million were al queda?"

Would you give them amnesty also?

Depends on how cheap they would pick lettuce & cut grass.

32 posted on 05/21/2007 7:25:37 PM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: tapatio

What would you do if 12 million illegal aliens were willing to fight for us in Iraq?


33 posted on 05/21/2007 7:26:17 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
and if they do it too much we throw them in jail.

Really, how many tickets did those muslim illegals have when arrested last week, 54?? When were they going to be thrown in jail?

34 posted on 05/21/2007 7:26:43 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: PghBaldy
understand there's *** some people who expect anything other than capital punishment is an amnesty.

The ironic part? If they really believed we were at war, there would be "capital punishment" for, shall we say, "uninvited guests."

I really, really dislike this man.

35 posted on 05/21/2007 7:27:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Any politician who supports amnesty is deader politically than Teddy Kennedy's liver...)
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To: PghBaldy
I agree and who does this brainless twit think he is kidding? They are committing treason
36 posted on 05/21/2007 7:27:42 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: PghBaldy
Chertoff has shown to be a paid robot for the NWO.
37 posted on 05/21/2007 7:27:46 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: pissant

Fire his boss.


38 posted on 05/21/2007 7:28:34 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: lonestar67
“What would you do if 12 million illegal aliens were willing to fight for us in Iraq?”

Wonder what drugs you were on.

39 posted on 05/21/2007 7:28:48 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: PghBaldy
Citizenship is for sale?
40 posted on 05/21/2007 7:28:49 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: org.whodat

When are these anti-american haters be thrown in jail with the illegals?


41 posted on 05/21/2007 7:28:54 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: PghBaldy

Why not just sell citizenship at the border or ports of entry? That would simplify it enough for pro Illegal imigration idiots like Chertoff, Kennedy, McCain, Reid and GWB.


42 posted on 05/21/2007 7:29:10 PM PDT by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: umgud
“us extremists will only settle for mass deportation of 12-20 million illegals and that is not possible.”

I challenge ANYONE to prove that anyone with any standing EVER said to “deport all 12 million”. The challenge is out. Anyone show me?

43 posted on 05/21/2007 7:29:11 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: EternalVigilance

I really, really, really dislike my government right now.

Time for a revolution.


44 posted on 05/21/2007 7:29:14 PM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I used to think that Bush was doing OK. Not as good as I wanted but OK.

I was wrong.

After 911 he should have asked for a declaration of war.

We should have reinstituted the draft, not for the military, but for the Homeland Defense Force. Trained by the military but used to guard our airports and all strategic facilities. This could have been set up easily so that following basic and AIT, you could be assigned close to home. Service could also be combined with involuntary college training.

Invade Afghanistan? Yes. Invade Iraq? Yes. Do it like we did it? No! Rumsfeld was a disaster. He would not allow the military leaders to plan for the occupation. We did not invade Iraq with enough troops for a proper occupation.

Bush allowed Rumsfeld to much latitude. Bush is responsible for three years of doing exactly the same thing in Iraq and yet expecting the results to change. He is responsible for the Republicans losing Congress.

Immigration: Bush is allowing the filthy elite rich of Mexico to maintain that country as a third world hell hole. If people starve or die living there or trying to escape into America, he is responsible for not forcing Mexico's leadership to start cleaning up their country. His lack of leadership is responsible for the poor little seperation of babies and their parents (Like that really happens.)

And my last subject (for tonight's rant, not all of the things Bush has done wrong.) Bush trusted the damn demoncraps like only a simpleton would. He should have fired every Clinton appointee on day 1. Tenet at the CIA, Bush's fault. All of those Clinton AGs not invetsigating crimes the clintons and demoncraps did (voter fraud, etc) is Bush's fault for not cleaning house.

No, I do have one more thing. Sandy Berger should have been tried for treason for destroying evidence to influence the 911 Commission. Berger's actions could prevent the 911 Commission, and ultimately we Americans, from learning the truth. This means that he is contributing to another 911 type of disaster by covering up what went wrong this time. I call Berger's actions treason and I call Bush's actions incompetence.

45 posted on 05/21/2007 7:30:06 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: PghBaldy
Hey Mike, amnesty is when we don't hang you for treason.
46 posted on 05/21/2007 7:30:41 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: lonestar67
What would you do if 12 million illegal aliens were willing to fight for us in Iraq?

Do you still beat your wife?

47 posted on 05/21/2007 7:30:54 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: PghBaldy
I respected Chertoff during the Whitewater hearings and was encouraged to see him named to this position.

However, I have begun to believe that not only must Bush appointees (save the Supremes) tout the Bush policy, they must do so while willingly opposing the American people and the extreme danger to our borders if we leave this system in place for one more day!!!

48 posted on 05/21/2007 7:31:14 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: PghBaldy

These pro-amnesty people are great with their straw-man arguements. LOL!


49 posted on 05/21/2007 7:31:36 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Good News everyone!!!! It's baseball season!!!!!)
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To: South40

Nah, his boss is the only one with nads in fighting the islamo nazis.


50 posted on 05/21/2007 7:32:12 PM PDT by pissant
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