Posted on 05/21/2007 6:55:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy
I felt that way at first. kick them all out. But one of my senators feels exactly the way I do. we have to watch each and every one, and make that decision. and don’t let them BS you. I expect to see Graham become a tap dancing fool very soon, when he see’s the reaction to him being a traitor.
Got it. Your right, some people are such crazy blind followers they lose grasp for reason.
Likewise, buddy.
“If you cannot see the folly doing the dems dirty work, in a fantasy that his immigration policy is a reason to abandon the WOT.”
His immigration policy means HE INTENDS TO ABANDON THE WOT. In fact, he never intended to really fight it!
Pay attention.
“Is a reason to pull things out your rear end to project failure to other conservatives. “
Reality is only failure if you ignore it.
“Tell that to the 150,000 Iraq troops fighting side by side with us.”
For their own purposes.
“Tell that to Jordan, the UAE, Morrocco and a dozen other muslim countries that have been sharing intel with us and fighting AQ in their own back yards.”
Again, for their own purposes. In the end, they all agree on the Infidel. I would remind you that AQ Khan’s operation worked out of UAE and Jordan didn’t have a problem with Jordanian Muslim terrorists until they actually killed Jordanians. In fact, the Saudis funded both the beginning of the Jihad and continue to fund infiltration operations in the United States and the rest of the West. Such “staunch allies”. They’re using us to stay in power and hold back the Shia while they sneak around behind our back with a knife.
“Likd I said you sound just like that idiot Wiener.”
You’re starting to spin like a Rudy supporter.
“Hunter certainly supports the CIC. Moreso than most folks in Washington, DESPITE the ridiculous proposal on Amnesty.”
He isn’t “the CIC”. We have no Roman concept of “dictator” in our system. He is the Commander-in-Chief of the military, but NOT THE COUNTRY. I don’t and can’t support a man who seeks the destruction of the country. By backing both this disastrous amnesty and the Law of the Sea Treaty, the President has shown both just how little he considers the war and how little he considers our nation’s interests. You propose - in fact, you demand - blind allegiance to a POLITICIAN. We must all march off the cliff in lockstep, right?
Can you NOT UNDERSTAND that agreement as to the necessity of the war and agreement in the way it is being fought are not the same damn thing? You’re hopeless.
What’ll it take before you question your allegiance to a politician?
I have no idea what a micheal weiner-esque is. What I do know is bush is doing irrepairible harm to this country with his amnesty. He is also damaging national security. If you don’t agree with me, fine. But Hunter said essentially the same thing and I know you support him. Have you written him and accused him of not supporting bush on the WOT because of it? Didn’t think so.
You are a fool. Please vote for Ron Paul and stay far, far away from the Hunter campaign.
Even Rudy has more sense than Weiner, and I wouldn’t elect him dogcatcher.
That was a good rant. BZ
You are still misunderstanding. I said I understood you support Bush in the WOT. But you jumped into a conversation against me so I assumed otherwise. Got it?
If we don’t get someone in office who isn’t a PC liberal with a strange desire to import a millions of Democrats, we most certainly will lose the war.
This says it pretty well:
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2007/05/20/
You confuse rhetoric with policy.
Right back at ya! You must be a lawyer, with all this scintillating debate.
“Please vote for Ron Paul and stay far, far away from the Hunter campaign.”
I would hope Hunter isn’t a PC liberal. We’ve had enough of those in office.
Secondly, perhaps you shouldn't make such assumptions. We're both Hunter supporters, though I'll admit, I can't imagine how someone who could support the bush/kennedy amnesty bill could agree with Hunter in any way. But hey, however you reconcile that in your own mind is up to you.
Peace.
You confuse weinerisms for reality.
FACT: The proposal for Amnesty is real, real bad.
FACT: As of today, it has not been passed and we are in the same boat regarding illegal immigration that we were in 1986, 1996, 2001, 2006.
FACT: The wars in the ME have not been impacted by the Bush-Kennedy-McCain Amnesty proposal.
FACT: Calling the WOT an abject failure based on a immigration proposal THAT WILL NOT become law is idiocy. It’s the Michael Savage way. Cheerlead the war. Bash the war when we pulled up in Falluja the first time. Cheerlead after we slaughter the jihadis and take Falluja. Bash the war when some Marines get court marshaled. Become indistinguishable from Murtha when Bush proposes Amnesty.
Sorry Charlie
He ain’t. But he also knows we aren’t losing.
And I am about as PC as attila the Hun. Doesn’t mean I can’t spot a Murtha like defeatist from a mile away.
WTF are you talking about? I hate the Bush amnesty more than you do. Where is a shred of a statement where I siad one thing positive about this abomination.
The last time I put up my idea how to control the border I was banned for three days.
Yes.
“FACT: As of today, it has not been passed and we are in the same boat regarding illegal immigration that we were in 1986, 1996, 2001, 2006.”
Mostly. The problem has been made worse by the reduced interior enforcement starting in GWB’s first term and his constant talking-up of amnesty. What’s more, we ought to be more aware of illegal immigration with the certainty that Muslim terrorists are crossing the border.
“FACT: The wars in the ME have not been impacted by the Bush-Kennedy-McCain Amnesty proposal.”
Yes. They’ve made them more obviously INSANE.
“FACT: Calling the WOT an abject failure based on a immigration proposal THAT WILL NOT become law is idiocy.”
That’s something of a misstatement of what I said.
“Bash the war when we pulled up in Falluja the first time. “
This is where you show your “botness”. The war and the conduct of the war are two separate damn things. It’s as if my questioning Market Garden meant I’m wanting us to lose the European Theater. Stop being stupid.
“Bash the war when some Marines get court marshaled.”
The word is “martial”.
“Become indistinguishable from Murtha when Bush proposes Amnesty.”
Hardly, boy. Bush has sided with Pelosi and Murtha and proposed the death of the Republic under a deluge of Muslim terrorists and millions of new Democrats. Why? I don’t know.
I’ll be blunt. If you can’t see that, you are a fool.
View the strategic picture for once. Fred Thompson does.
“And I am about as PC as attila the Hun. Doesn’t mean I can’t spot a Murtha like defeatist from a mile away.”
You defend a man who sides with Kennedy on nearly everything.
You ARE Murtha.
You see, we can - and must - win this war with Islam. The question isn’t that, but the best method of doing it. This amnesty deal - and other gems like funding Fatah - is not the best way to do it. You think that makes me a “defeatist”. I think your view makes you a fool unable to see the bigger picture. It’s good you aren’t in a planning position.
The best that can be said is that we will both work hard to defeat the Amnesty from ever seeing the light of day. I will leave it at that. We can save a deeper discussion about how the war is going for another day.
Okay how about a compromise. Let's split the middle between captital punishment and $1000 fine. How about deportation?
Nor am I, nor have I ever said such a thing. But you were confusing the two. One can disagree with bush on this ammesty and still support him on the WOT. Hunter is a perfect example of this, as am I.
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