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Path to national suicide (Pat Buchanan on Illegal Immigration)
World Net Daily ^ | May 22, 2007` | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 05/21/2007 11:52:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected?

"I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

So said Abe Lincoln to the Young Men's Lyceum in Springfield. Observing the Senate last week, and looking over the latest figures from the Census Bureau, America is now risking national suicide.

Last week, senators meeting in secret produced a bill to legalize our 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens. If a path to citizenship becomes law, nothing will stop the next invasion. As President Bush acknowledges, 6 million tried to breach our southern border in his first five years. One in 12 – 500,000 – had a criminal record.

According to the Census Bureau, from mid-2005 to mid-2006, the U.S. minority population rose 2.4 million, to exceed 100 million. Hispanics, 1 percent of the population in 1950, are now 14.4 percent. Their total number has soared 25 percent since 2000 alone. The Asian population has also grown by 25 percent since 2000.

The number of white kids of school age fell 4 percent, however. Half the children 5 and younger in the United States are now minorities.

What is happening to us? An immigrant invasion of the United States from the Third World, as America's white majority is no longer even reproducing itself. Since Roe v. Wade, America has aborted 45 million of her children. And Asia, Africa and Latin America have sent 45 million of their children to inherit the estate the aborted American children never saw. God is not mocked.

And white America is in flight.

In the 1990s, for the first time since the Spanish came, whites left California. Two million departed. From July 1, 2005, to July 1, 2006, 100,000 more packed up and headed back whence their fathers came. The "Anglo" population of the Golden State is down to 43 percent and falling fast. White folks are now a minority in Texas and New Mexico. In Arizona, Hispanics account for over half the population under 20.

The future is not in doubt. Why ought this be of concern?

First, while the black and Hispanic population combined is now 85 million – five times what it was in 1960 – half of all black and Hispanic kids drop out of high school. And the average math and reading scores of the half who graduate are at seventh-, eighth- or ninth-grade levels.

And the future is not so sanguine as it seemed 50 years ago. As I write in "State of Emergency":

"In 1960, 18 million black Americans, 10 percent of the nation, were not fully integrated into society, but they had been assimilated into our culture. They worshiped the same God, spoke the same language, had endured the same Depression and war, watched the same TV shows on the same four channels, laughed at the same comedians, went to the same movies, ate the same foods, read the same newspapers and went to schools where, even when segregated, we learned the same history and literature and shared the same holidays: Christmas, New Year's, Washington's Birthday, Easter, Memorial Day, July 4, Labor Day, Columbus Day. Segregation existed, but black folks were as American as apple pie, having lived in this land longer than almost every other group save the Native Americans.

"That cultural unity, that sense that we were one people, is gone."

Today's immigrants exceed in number anything any nation has ever known. They now come from cultures and countries whose people have never before been assimilated by any First World country. Not only is the Melting Pot broken, it is rejected by our elites. Minorities are urged to hold onto their own language, customs, traditions. Identity politics is in. And the largest cohort, Mexicans, comes from a country with a historic grievance and a claim on the territory they are entering.

Moreover, since the cultural revolution of the 1960s, we have been fighting one another over issues of race and ethnicity, history, heroes and holidays, morality and religion, right and wrong.

All over the Western world, multiethnic, multicultural countries are coming apart over language, ethnicity, history. The Soviet Union broke into 15 nations, Yugoslavia into half a dozen. Czechs and Slovaks divorced. Scots want separation from England. Catalans and Basques seek independence. Corsicans and Bretons want out of France. Northern Italians want to secede. Only immigrants who prefer Ottawa prevent Quebecois from breaking free of Canada.

As we see from the election battles in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador and Mexico, race and ethnicity are not receding as issues, but rising. In South Central Los Angeles, black and Hispanic gangs are at war over race and turf.

Addressing the Knights of Columbus in 1915, Theodore Roosevelt warned, "The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."

In every way possible, Americans have said they do not want to take this risk with their country. Why, then, are our elites taking it?


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1 posted on 05/21/2007 11:52:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What happens if we do crush this bill? They are still in power! 20 million still here! We already have one foot of the cliff and we are now in the middle of lifting the other...
2 posted on 05/21/2007 11:58:58 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Why, then, are our elites taking it?”


I have been asking the same question....i don’t have a pat answer for it....it’s either all politics or some unforseen goal.


3 posted on 05/21/2007 11:59:25 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pat is the only one with the balls to talk about these issues honestly. The rest of the pundits tip toe around the political correctness fire as if they fear for their lives.

One criticism, though. My main concern isn't the white to non-white ratio, as seems to be Pat's. It's the rate of immigration vs. the rate of assimilation, coupled with the rise of identity politics which seeks to capitalize on that disparity.
4 posted on 05/22/2007 12:03:36 AM PDT by billybudd
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To: Eyes Unclouded
What happens if we do crush this bill? They are still in power! 20 million still here! We already have one foot of the cliff and we are now in the middle of lifting the other...

Correct.

Some estimates are 30 million.

Instead of continuing this parade of pandering, offering amnesty, and selling citizenship we should be enforcing our borders and laws.

Those who were paid and delegated to protect our borders should be held responsible and made example of.

5 posted on 05/22/2007 12:06:23 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Americans have said they do not want to take this risk with their country. Why, then, are our elites taking it?

All humans are, to a greater or lesser extent, ethnocentric (Hooray for my tribe, boo for yours). Some people derive enormous gratification from denying this. If it's permissable to prefer one's family to other groups, why not one's extended family? Where are the lines drawn, and by whom?

Buchanan is like some voice of Reason in a madhouse.

6 posted on 05/22/2007 12:10:18 AM PDT by Petronius ("He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.")
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To: teldon30
They are 'elite' only in position, but in behavior they are sub human. It is their lust for greed and self preservation, not for the betterment of their country and to serve their citizens that they 'take it'.

The only way to insure these men do not follow through on their baser instincts is to threaten them with the two things that they will do anything to preserve--threaten the end of their job (power) or just take it away and put them in a position never to profit. Since there seems little to prevent the latter we must push for the former and not flinch. Period.

Would we just let someone come into our home and take everything we have worked hard for and push around and eradicate the future of those we love with out a fight? I wouldn't. These 'elites'--the self serving putz(es)--need a gun to their heads and clear direction from us the people of the United States of America. That gun is the threat or loss of their jobs if they don't amend the foreign born law to exclude illegal entry parents and two ship em all out, every last one they can grab the scruff of. We seriously need to secure our borders. We let people in, in a legal timely process that includes the path to citizenship, which additionally includes learning English, American history as it was taught in the 60's not by some liberal, 'Marxist's rise up' latest interpretation, and they need to take civil classes and be tested on the subject matter regarding the United States of America.

Unless that foreign born law is addressed we will always have serious problems. Also a new study by the Heritage Foundation showed that illegals on average got basically $19,000 a year from the government. What American would not like to have a gift of $19,000 a year from another country that we invaded and pooed on their soil and society? Nope. This game stops here. It is fight time folks.

7 posted on 05/22/2007 12:23:47 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: billybudd
It's the rate of immigration vs. the rate of assimilation

I think Bill Bennett has said something to the affect, it's not the immigrants you have to worry about so much, but what America i.e. the lefties will indoctrinate them with once they get here.

8 posted on 05/22/2007 12:25:11 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: billybudd
The rest of the pundits tip toe around the political correctness fire as if they fear for their lives.

I don't normally listen to Hannity, but I heard a snippet of his radio show today. A caller called in and was saying pretty much what Pat Buchanan was saying in this article. Hannity didn't want to touch that with a 10 foot pole--went off into something about poverty and Mexico and how it's understanable that these people want to better their lives.

9 posted on 05/22/2007 12:27:27 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Eyes Unclouded
What happens if we do crush this bill? They are still in power! 20 million still here! We already have one foot of the cliff and we are now in the middle of lifting the other...

This bill stinks and so does the status quo.

10 posted on 05/22/2007 12:27:27 AM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: Petronius
Americans have said they do not want to take this risk with their country. Why, then, are our elites taking it?

It all boils down to this.

11 posted on 05/22/2007 12:29:14 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Pat would just be more open about his racism, he’d probably get a lot more followers. In no way am I suggesting by the way that anti-illegal immigration= racism. I’m just saying Pat Buchanan is an Eastern Elite White Supremacist. The party of Mel Martinez, Ken Blackwell and Michael Steele has no place for him, as we made clear in 2000. To add insult to injury, he supports Ron Paul.


12 posted on 05/22/2007 12:33:33 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When he’s right, he’s right. I’m pretty disgusted with the whole thing right now :(


13 posted on 05/22/2007 12:38:10 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: FremontLives

It seems to me that Pat is making some valid points in this article. Instead of just attacking Pat as a “racist,” tell us how Pat is wrong here.


14 posted on 05/22/2007 12:40:28 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: billybudd; All

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Call tomorrow, it’s not too late!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


15 posted on 05/22/2007 12:54:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: dragnet2
Instead of continuing this parade of pandering, offering amnesty, and selling citizenship we should be enforcing our borders and laws. Those who were paid and delegated to protect our borders should be held responsible and made example of.

Amen.

16 posted on 05/22/2007 12:58:18 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! -Abe Lincoln)
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To: FremontLives
Pointing out facts about different race’s, and cultural values & how it effects America is not raciest. It’s just not PC. He is pointing out how elitist culture relativism (multiculturalism) has proved to be a failure & overtaken our successful melting pot society. If anything la raza (the race) are the racist.
17 posted on 05/22/2007 1:06:44 AM PDT by Rottweilerson (If you want a friend...Feed any animal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html

an excellent email source

Bombard them All!


18 posted on 05/22/2007 1:09:16 AM PDT by sheana
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It would seem to me that Mexicans are the only ones left who believe in this country.


19 posted on 05/22/2007 1:26:47 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: FremontLives
You're full of crap, you know that right?

The party of Mel Martinez, Ken Blackwell and Michael Steele has no place for him, as we made clear in 2000.

Mel Martinez has been an utter failure and is one of the biggest cheerleaders for this immigration bill. And Blackwell and Steele, while both nice, lost. Did you forget that? They aren't in power. Wish they were, but they're not.

To add insult to injury, he supports Ron Paul.

GASP! Ron Paul! That evil man doesn't support endless wars for global democracy and is the only candidate to openly call for getting rid of the department of education! And he wants spending reined in! And he has the highest rating on gun rights of any member of congress! And he actually gives more than lip service to the U.S. Constition! Oh the humanity!

Seriously though, it's not Rudy Giuliani or John McCain he's supporting, it's Ron Paul. If it was Giuliani he was supporting, than I really would think Buchanan was a moron.

I like Ron Paul a lot. I'm still undecided who I'll vote for in the republican primary. It's between Paul and Tom Tancredo.

20 posted on 05/22/2007 1:32:33 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: FremontLives
“It would seem to me that Mexicans are the only ones left who believe in this country.”

I believe in America & thats how I and many other Americans used our freedom of speech to keep this shady Bill slipping in the dark of the night. Mexicans are good, hardworking people. It’s just to bad that they demand more from America then from a mineral, oil, tourist, farm rich land like Mexico.

21 posted on 05/22/2007 1:48:19 AM PDT by Rottweilerson (If you want a friend...Feed any animal.)
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To: NapkinUser

Research any number of Ron Paul’s comments on blacks, and you’ll find he and Pat Buchanan have much more in common than just fiscal policy. Let’s make sure the big tent is big enough that it doesn’t turn into a white hood. Duncan Hunter is able to espouse everything positive you feel about Ron Paul and Buchanan without being sickening about it. Tancredo is a single issue candidate who isn’t doing a very good job of expressing himself. I am powerless to dispute the brilliance of your tagline though. Well played.


22 posted on 05/22/2007 2:28:05 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: FremontLives

“...without being sickening about it...”.
Ron Paul and Pat are not “sickening”. Your Politically Correct attitude is sickening however.


23 posted on 05/22/2007 2:39:03 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: dragnet2; Petronius

Americans have said they do not want to take this risk with their country. Why, then, are our elites taking it?

It all boils down to this.


Why is it that so few of us can see what's really going on?

This is so classic. Why is the left so adamant, even though they are getting an amnesty -- an amnesty for illegal aliens being here, PLUS, a tax amnesty to REWARD them for their crimes?

It's so simple. We, having admitted defeat, are now "suing for peace" -- we're tossing bones to appease the growling dogs -- but having smelled blood, they will settle for nothing less than total unconditional defeat.

Surrender.

Remember the original "VJ Day"? Remember Japan being forced to not merely stop fighting, but to accept crushing defeat if they wanted to stop being beaten to a pulp?

Well, today, we are "Japan" -- because by "suing for peace" -- by admitting defeat, and trying to appease our conquerors with gifts such as rewards for having invaded us -- we are telling them that we are defeated. And they will settle for nothing less than a total acknowledgment of that defeat.

What a sad legacy to hand down to our children, and our children's children.

24 posted on 05/22/2007 2:42:05 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: BnBlFlag

How is not wanting to give the time of day to a man who argues that fighting Hitler was a mistake PC? Or a man who says we brought 9/11 on ourselves? Or who both boil down America’s ills to skin tone? Who longs for a day when blacks contentedly laughed along from the balcony? If that’s PC, then I’m guilty as charged.


25 posted on 05/22/2007 2:56:49 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: NapkinUser
You're full of crap, you know that right?

Insults are substituted for logic way too often these days at FR.

26 posted on 05/22/2007 3:30:45 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Scotus - Buggering the Constitution since 1937.)
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To: FremontLives
Lawrence Auster wrote the same things in 1990. He ahs been ignored yet his prescience is amazing. It's a long read but take the time to read it. If you don't it will be hard to debate this issue without resorting to claims of racism because that's the easy way out.

The Path to National Suicide by Lawrence Auster (1990)

An essay on multi-culturalism and immigration.

Click the Pic!!!!

Excerpt....

How can we account for this remarkable silence? The answer, as I will try to show, is that when the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 was being considered in Congress, the demographic impact of the bill was misunderstood and downplayed by its sponsors. As a result, the subject of population change was never seriously examined. The lawmakers’ stated intention was that the Act should not radically transform America’s ethnic character; indeed, it was taken for granted by liberals such as Robert Kennedy that it was in the nation’s interest to avoid such a change. But the dramatic ethnic transformation that has actually occurred as a result of the 1965 Act has insensibly led to acceptance of that transformation in the form of a new, multicultural vision of American society. Dominating the media and the schools, ritualistically echoed by every politician, enforced in every public institution, this orthodoxy now forbids public criticism of the new path the country has taken. “We are a nation of immigrants,” we tell ourselves— and the subject is closed. The consequences of this code of silence are bizarre. One can listen to statesmen and philosophers agonize over the multitudinous causes of our decline, and not hear a single word about the massive immigration from the Third World and the resulting social divisions. Opponents of population growth, whose crusade began in the 1960s out of a concern about the growth rate among resident Americans and its effects on the environment and the quality of life, now studiously ignore the question of immigration, which accounts for fully half of our population growth.

This curious inhibition stems, of course, from a paralyzing fear of the charge of “racism.” The very manner in which the issue is framed—as a matter of equal rights and the blessings of diversity on one side, versus “racism” on the other—tends to cut off all rational discourse on the subject. One can only wonder what would happen if the proponents of open immigration allowed the issue to be discussed, not as a moralistic dichotomy, but in terms of its real consequences. Instead of saying: “We believe in the equal and unlimited right of all people to immigrate to the U.S. and enrich our land with their diversity,” what if they said: “We believe in an immigration policy which must result in a staggering increase in our population, a revolution in our culture and way of life, and the gradual submergence of our current population by Hispanic and Caribbean and Asian peoples.” Such frankness would open up an honest debate between those who favor a radical change in America’s ethnic and cultural identity and those who think this nation should preserve its way of life and its predominant, European-American character. That is the actual choice—as distinct from the theoretical choice between “equality” and “racism”—that our nation faces. But the tyranny of silence has prevented the American people from freely making that choice.

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27 posted on 05/22/2007 4:22:08 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Petronius

bttt


28 posted on 05/22/2007 4:35:03 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: raybbr

I’m not accusing Buchanan of being a racist because of how he feels about hispanics, I’m accusing him of being a holocaust minimizer and a segregation nostalgic. I will give it a read though, sounds interesting. I’m young, if you haven’t noticed.


29 posted on 05/22/2007 4:46:07 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: teldon30

The elites benefit. Period.


30 posted on 05/22/2007 4:51:30 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: FremontLives
Research any number of Ron Paul’s comments on blacks...P>

Well obviously you're in the know. Why not enlighten US on what a racist Ron Paul is. Please post links, the burden is on you to back up your allegations. If you can't you'd be better off to STFU. Race baiters don't get a FRee ride. Blackbird.

31 posted on 05/22/2007 4:59:56 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: BlackbirdSST

From 1996:

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

I’ll do my best to find the original newsletter.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night?


32 posted on 05/22/2007 5:16:37 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: NapkinUser

“I’m still undecided who I’ll vote for in the republican primary. It’s between Paul and Tom Tancredo.” === LOL... two who are even LESS than “also-rans”... Yeah... supporting them will really do a lot of good for the country. Great way to flex your political muscle.


33 posted on 05/22/2007 6:34:23 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Shuck04

Bumper stickers? I would say I ramble. Why don’t you read some of my posts. Pardon me for expressing arguments.


36 posted on 05/22/2007 6:45:20 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: Shuck04

All the 3rd world immigrants 150 years ago really harmed us, didn’t they? Its just the culture of failure. We’re still being haunted by the laziness of those damn peasants. I’m no fan of breaking the law, but these people hustle across the Sonoran desert. When is the last time you even got off your ass?


37 posted on 05/22/2007 6:48:46 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: FremontLives
>>>>>If Pat would just be more open about his racism ...

That is ignorant screwball rhetoric. Pat is no racist. He doesn't approach the issue of immigration from a point of prejudice or bigotry. Buchanan believes that white liberals and their promotion for and support of multiculturalism and political correctness is undermining the future of the good old USA. And I for one agree.

I believe as PJB does that liberal immigration of the last 40+ years has severely damaged many of those things that made us so great, as a people. We the people believe in fair play, we don't believe in handing out freebies --- jobs, welfare, health care --- to foreigners who break American law. The notion of fair play is wonderful. But respect for the laws of this nation is paramount to America expanding its wealth of opportunities to everyone who comes here legally. Open borders destroys US sovereignty and amnesty undermines our judicial system.

America was created for all people who want to live in freedom. America is a place for people from all cultures. OTOH. America is losing its western European influences that built this great nation and modern American liberalism is the direct cause of this destruction. If you can't see that, I submit you're the intolerant one. In fact, you sound like a liberal. Maybe thats your real problem.

38 posted on 05/22/2007 6:57:52 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"And Asia, Africa and Latin America have sent 45 million of their children to inherit the estate the aborted American children never saw. God is not mocked."

Throw in the number of children lost to contraception - we have met the problem and it is us, not the immigrants.

Sorry Pat it is what it is. The world is a nation without borders. It is one big economy. Money rules and those with money rule the most. We exist for pleasure. Sacrifice is for those who volunteer.

Speaking of God, wonder who thanks Him most. Those who hire or those glad to have found an employer.

39 posted on 05/22/2007 7:00:27 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Reagan Man

You should write Pat Buchanan’s columns for him, because what you just said made perfect sense. He was rambling on about blacks and whites watching movies together. As for calling me a liberal? PISTOLS AT DAWN!


40 posted on 05/22/2007 7:15:22 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

41 posted on 05/22/2007 7:48:05 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: FremontLives
"I’m no fan of breaking the law, but these people hustle across the Sonoran desert. When is the last time you even got off your ass?"

Profound statement really. LOL.

42 posted on 05/22/2007 7:52:10 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: FremontLives

Most excellent reply! KUDOS! ;^)


43 posted on 05/22/2007 8:12:08 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Reagan Man
In fact, you sound like a liberal. Maybe thats your real problem.

Same crap...different day, from you.

44 posted on 05/22/2007 8:14:26 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: FremontLives

Having fun with the pitchforkers and Ron Paulies I see.

You would have a more cogent conversation with a brick wall.

Let’s not forget that Pat and Ron sympathize with the crazy sect muzzies, because they have been “victimized” by the Israeli’s(in Pat parlance the “Joooo’s”) while the crazy sect muzzies try to blow up people like Pat and Ron Paul.

Logic goes out the window when Pat has an ethnic animus tirade to write.


45 posted on 05/22/2007 8:17:41 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: FremontLives

Buchanan has a number of serious personality defects, including his disgusting anti-semitism. But he is dead on when it comes to illegal immigration, about how our elected elites are moving Heaven and Earth in a massive effort to destroy America’s sovreignty and how the invasion of illegals will eventually tear this country apart at the seams.


46 posted on 05/22/2007 8:22:22 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Put illegal immigrants on ICE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The most brilliant and chilling line in there (and a point I have made myself, since GMTA), is the one “since Roe V. Wade, America has aborted 45 million of her children and Africa, Asia,etc. has sent 45 million of IT’s children to inherit their estate. God is not mocked”. I didn’t know Pat was capable of that kind of thinking. I will never again think anything approaching a bad thought about Pat. And will defend him against ALL.


47 posted on 05/22/2007 8:24:37 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: beaversmom
Hannity has long since been a shill for Jorge Bush, and now for RINO Julie Annie. Sure, he moans and groans about this bill, he visits the borders and breaks bread with the Minutemen, but in the end, he's a loyal party man. He'll never tell anyone to vote against any nominated Pubbie, regardless of said Pubbie's positions on the borders, immigration, gun control, abortion, special rights for homosexuals, etc. He sees only Pubbie Good, 'Rat Bad.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

48 posted on 05/22/2007 8:32:17 AM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: FremontLives
I don't know enough about Blackwell and Steele to comment on them, but any party that has that flippin' POS Mel Martinez as it's head is no party of mine. It has nothing to do with his ethnicity, and everything to do with the fact that he's the enemy within.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

49 posted on 05/22/2007 8:34:48 AM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Wouldn’t you rather your standard-bearer were a man without massive personality defects, namely disgusting anti-semitism?


50 posted on 05/22/2007 8:41:05 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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