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Iowa State Promotes Atheist Professor Who Equates Bible with Mein Kampf
Evolution News & Views ^ | May 22, 2007 | John West

Posted on 05/22/2007 6:26:44 AM PDT by Baladas

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To: Baladas

Probably passed up by priests when he was young, and still resents it.


21 posted on 05/22/2007 7:53:43 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Baladas

Why am I not surprised?


22 posted on 05/22/2007 7:58:21 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Baladas

I wish more people realized that the university stands for this before sending their kids there.


23 posted on 05/22/2007 8:02:51 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: Baladas

” the Bible as a relic of an ancient civilization instead of the “living” document most religionist scholars believe it should be’

How odd. Conservatives decry the leftist notion of a living constitution, but are just fine with the bible being such.


24 posted on 05/22/2007 8:34:17 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I don’t see too many preachers saying the Bible should be interdependent with an “evolving” society.

It’s more like the “leftist religionists” that think the Bible should conform to a changing society especially where their genitals are concerned.

25 posted on 05/22/2007 8:50:11 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

That’s why I chose the excerpt I did. If the bible isn’t ‘living’ it’s deemed a relic. Take your pick.


26 posted on 05/22/2007 8:55:06 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse

To the believer it’s the “living word of God”, Jesus, who has not died. Hence the living part.

James Madison, to my knowledge, never had anyone claim he rose from the dead.


27 posted on 05/22/2007 9:15:37 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: LantzALot

Easy. So put Gonzales in charge of the Religion dept, since he obviously believes in God. That would be a switch, huh.


28 posted on 05/22/2007 9:17:11 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: rollo tomasi

In this instance, “living” is being used to mean “not etched in stone.” IOW capable of being adjusted to modern needs.


29 posted on 05/22/2007 9:18:54 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
The Bible states “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.”

How can one be a relic if one is still living today, plus don’t forget the forever bit? For the faithful the “Word of God” will always be “living”. The whole notion of the New Testament accounts for this.

The OT stories would have been true in this particular case, a relic as you say but the Resurrection brought this “dead letter” to life.

30 posted on 05/22/2007 9:31:30 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

The BIBLE is what is being discussed, not Jesus. But since you’ve got this one-track mind, and I’m not into being ‘saved’ at the moment, this is my last comment.


31 posted on 05/22/2007 9:35:50 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse

How can you possibly leave out Jesus from the Bible?

It’s like leaving the scotch out of scotch and soda.

By the way, I prefer my Crown straight up on the rocks but occasionally with coke.


32 posted on 05/22/2007 10:28:37 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Baladas
He urges his colleagues to concentrate on educating the broader
society to recognize the irrelevance and even violent effects
of the Bible in modern life.


And to revise any history books mentioning the fruits of
Communism/Marxism and other areligious movements that blighted
the twentieth century?
33 posted on 05/22/2007 10:34:48 AM PDT by VOA
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To: onedoug
>>...to recognize the irrelevance and even violent effects of the Bible in modern life.

Well had there been no Bible there would be no United States and thus no ISU nor "Professor Avalos".

You could just as easily say 'had there been no slavery there would be no United States and thus no ISU nor Professor Avalos'.

What does that prove? Nothing really. Its the butterfly affect and says nothing about the merits of either the Bible or slavery.

34 posted on 05/22/2007 10:48:06 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
I disagree.

Slavery would continue whether there was a United States or not.

The Bible which never declares slavery good nonetheless demonstrates through law and narrative the promise of the One God that Good will ultimately prevail over evil. In that sense America is "chosen" to project goodness into the world, which would otherwise be a very dark place without it.

35 posted on 05/22/2007 11:11:00 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Baladas
"Mein Kampf does not contain a single explicit command for genocide equivalent to those found in the Hebrew Bible"

Like it or not, any unbiased reading of the Old Testament would come to the same conclusion.

What the article (and Alvos) doesn't say is that the Old Testament is superseded by the New Testament. Christianity is based on Christs teachings, not Old Testament teachings.

36 posted on 05/22/2007 12:22:31 PM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren; Baladas; Calm_Cool_and_Elected

Dr.: “What the article (and Alvos) doesn’t say is that the Old Testament is superseded by the New Testament. Christianity is based on Christs teachings, not Old Testament teachings.”

The WHOLE New Testament? I thought only the red letters in the Bible were important - The rest of the words are just fluff. Aren’t they??


37 posted on 05/22/2007 12:40:52 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: visually_augmented
The WHOLE New Testament? I thought only the red letters in the Bible were important - The rest of the words are just fluff. Aren’t they??

I haven't tried to parse out the New Testament.

Do you disagree that the New Testament contradicts the Old Testament? (ie. 'turn the other cheek' versus 'an eye for an eye')

38 posted on 05/22/2007 1:25:41 PM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

Dr: “Do you disagree that the New Testament contradicts the Old Testament?”

Yes. I disagree.

To believe that the New Testament disagrees with the Old Testament you must believe one of the following:

1. The scriptures are not from God. (The Bible is just a good lesson in morality or a self-help book)
2. God changes His mind.
3. There is no God.

So which of the above do you believe?


39 posted on 05/23/2007 6:17:37 AM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Baladas
Avalos has led the charge against Gonzalez and intelligent design on ISU’s campus, helping to draft a 2005 petition denouncing intelligent design that ultimately was signed by more than 120 ISU faculty.

Isn’t tolerance a wonderful thing..............

40 posted on 05/23/2007 6:45:39 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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