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Taking out the trash (Updated Joe Paterno piece)
Yahoo Sports ^ | 5-22-07 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 05/22/2007 10:20:41 PM PDT by FlJoePa

Taking out the trash

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports May 22, 2007

This spring, six Penn State football players were arrested and charged for crimes stemming from an off-campus fight April 1 in which at least 15 Nittany Lions were present. The charged included a couple of star players, although what apparently bothered coach Joe Paterno the most was how many of his kids were willing to be involved.

And so Paterno, 80 now but no less tough, no less disciplined, hatched a plan to set things right within his program. He'll let the local legal and student judicial process play out, but regardless he decided that to keep people from thinking his team was trash, it'll spend the fall cleaning it up.

According to Paterno, the Penn State football team will clean Beaver Stadium after each home football game this fall. It'll gather garbage, sweep stairs and maybe even hose parts down.

It'll be Notre Dame on Saturday, nacho spills on Sunday.

It's a job that usually goes to members of club sports on campus – say, rugby or crew – which do it to raise money so they can compete. Paterno said the clubs still will get the $5,000 for the job, but his guys, fresh off playing 60 minutes of major college football the day before, will do all the work starting Sunday morning.

"We're all going to do it, everybody," Paterno told the Harrisburg Patriot-News after a banquet in suburban Philadelphia. "Not just the kids that were involved. 'Cause we're all in it together. This is a team embarrassment. I wouldn't call it anything much other than that."

This is easily the greatest punishment in recent collegiate history, an absolutely diabolical, telling, high-impact bit of discipline that should remind one and all that what Paterno has been doing out in State College, Pa., all these years is more than just win 363 football games, including 20 the past two seasons.

In a coaching business so full of phonies who talk character only to bend the rules, who consider the definition of discipline a player's weight-room attendance, who wouldn't dare pull something like this because it might hurt recruiting, here's Joe Pa, four decades on the job and not giving a damn.

Except about what's right.

The incident was as simple as it was ugly. One player, Anthony Scirrotto, and his girlfriend were insulted and Scirrotto punched by passers-by on the street, according to the police. Ultimately, Scirrotto called some teammates, they rushed an off-campus party where the passers-by were and a brawl ensued. More players showed up later.

"He got a little irate, called up a couple of his buddies and said, 'Hey, come on down,' " Paterno said. "They went over there and they got in a fight."

Who was right and who was wrong still is being sorted out by the judicial system. Not by Paterno, of course. The details don't seem to matter to him. Rather than figure out which individuals did what, who arrived when, he decided to hammer the entire team, if for nothing less than lacking the leadership to stop the incident from getting out of hand.

On college campuses where football stars often are treated to a lower standard, Paterno is going, once again, for a higher one.

"I just thought that, hey, we had 14, 15 kids – I don't even know how many – that were involved in something embarrassing, and I think that we need to prove to people that we're not a bunch of hoodlums," he said.

The entire team also will have to build a house for Habitat for Humanity and volunteer for the Special Olympics this summer. But the worst punishment no doubt will be cleaning up Penn State's mammoth 107,282-seat stadium.

A job usually left for others now will be done by Penn State's multimillion-dollar football team. Paterno can't see how this is any different. All the kids on campus are the same, so if the rugby team can find the energy to clean the stadium, so can his guys.

"I don't condone (the fight)," Paterno said. "Our kids were wrong."

And across the nation college football coaches faint.

Most coaches have spent their offseason complaining about not being able to text butt-kissing messages to recruits. They no sooner would wear out their players on an off day with garbage picking than give up their country club memberships.

At too many places in college football, the kids never are wrong. Punishments often are things that actually help the team: more running, early-morning weightlifting. It is rarely public, rarely embarrassing and never, at least to my knowledge, a blanket shot across the entire team, a true call for leadership and shared values.

But this is why Joe Paterno is Joe Paterno

He isn't worried about hurt feelings. He isn't worried about potential recruits. He isn't worried about guys sacking garbage on Sunday morning.

He's worried about the reputation of his players, his program and his school. He's worried about cleaning things up immediately, starting with the stadium.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: football; joepa; paterno; psu
This is the complete Yahoo Sports story that I tacked on to the other thread. It is a much better representation of the altercation and the punishment. It shows that Joe is truly different.
1 posted on 05/22/2007 10:20:44 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Does the article mention his salary?


2 posted on 05/22/2007 10:24:56 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: FlJoePa

This is a great story. I’m certain that the chatterboxes in the sports side of the MSM will whine about it in some for, but this is one reason why I always like Paterno.


3 posted on 05/22/2007 10:26:51 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FReepmail me to join the FR Idaho Ping List.)
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To: gilor

I don’t know his salary, but I know he was earning about $25,000 when I was there 40 years ago. He’s had a long time to work his way up. Once you find that figure, take a look at the amount he and his wife have donated to and raised for the university’s library, among many other things.


4 posted on 05/22/2007 10:36:14 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik

Pitt fans can’t comprehend a self-supporting athletic department or privately funded arenas. All they know is Joe-hate.

My guess is around $1.2 million and (as you said), a great portion of it invariably goes back to the University.

Joe has been there since 1949. This is 2007! How could he be overpaid!?


5 posted on 05/22/2007 10:41:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa (Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.)
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To: FlJoePa

Joe Paterno is a man of integrity and high moral character, he just installed that in some of those young men, what a great leader.


6 posted on 05/22/2007 10:43:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

I graduated from Penn State 25 years ago, and he had been there forever then. What a legacy. And good on him. Penn State loves Joe.


7 posted on 05/22/2007 10:57:23 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: FlJoePa

Sounds like boot camp to me. One guy screws up, the whole company pays.....to instill teamwork and togetherness.


8 posted on 05/22/2007 11:00:17 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The World-Famous, popular DJ and FReeper Canteen Certified, Equal-Opportunity, Male-Chauvinist-Pig!)
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To: El Gran Salseron

I should have added that 4 of the players had all of their charges dropped immediately by the judge as it was discerned that they did nothing but act as peace makers.

Two of the players are being held over for trial.


9 posted on 05/22/2007 11:12:30 PM PDT by FlJoePa (Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.)
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To: lafroste

I can’t really remember when I started watching college ball on TV, must have been when they started televising the games but Paterno was there. Parsegian was Notre Dame and McKay was USC.


10 posted on 05/22/2007 11:15:30 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: gilor
why on earth would that fact matter? do you have any idea how much $$$ that man has brought to the school and, therfore, the state? the TV and Bowl money alone is huge.

i guess these guys wont be doing much partying saturday night now if they have to get up early sunday.

11 posted on 05/22/2007 11:17:05 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: FlJoePa
It is rarely public, rarely embarrassing and never, at least to my knowledge, a blanket shot across the entire team, a true call for leadership and shared values.

He's telling the young men that they need to stand against stupidity from their teammates because it reflects on ALL of them.

Way to go, Joe!

12 posted on 05/22/2007 11:18:03 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: jazusamo
Joe Paterno is a man of integrity and high moral character, he just installed that in some of those young men, what a great leader.

Color him father, Paterno being from the Latin for dad.

13 posted on 05/22/2007 11:19:29 PM PDT by dighton
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To: SuziQ

Joe Pa, the anti-Miami!


14 posted on 05/23/2007 2:38:16 AM PDT by leadhead (Vote Fred Thompson, we've had enough bad actors!)
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To: FlJoePa

My brother and sister in law are both Penn State grades for both Bachelor and Masters. I guess they picked a good school...not quite as good as mine (FSU), but it will do.


15 posted on 05/23/2007 2:48:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: El Gran Salseron

and peer pressure...


16 posted on 05/23/2007 4:48:40 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: lafroste

Class of ‘86 here. Joe will catch crap from the sports media over this, no doubt. But I’m glad he’s sticking to his guns.


17 posted on 05/23/2007 4:59:20 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: FlJoePa

“A job usually left for others now will be done by Penn State’s multimillion-dollar football team. “

I thought that college football wasn’t about the money but the athletes getting an education.


18 posted on 05/23/2007 10:14:26 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: FlJoePa

God bless Coach Paterno.


19 posted on 05/23/2007 10:16:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Wolfie
For what I think the press is really po'ed about, check out the last 4 paragraphs from this link...

Off-field incidents wear on 80-year-old Paterno

BTW, FWIW, I'm against the salary secrecy.

20 posted on 05/23/2007 10:55:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: El Gran Salseron

when the black football player(qb) who was accused of assaulting an off duty cop in Jersey was arrested several years ago,, did Paterno do the same thing?..make the team suffer and reprimand the guy?...IIRC...he simply said let him play even before the trial.( which was in Jersey and the guy was acquitted)...I would hate to think that this is racial bigotry......


21 posted on 05/23/2007 11:02:03 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

I know nothing of the race/s of the students involved but if 15 were involved then I can’t believe that all of them are black.


22 posted on 05/23/2007 11:23:07 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The World-Famous, popular DJ and FReeper Canteen Certified, Equal-Opportunity, Male-Chauvinist-Pig!)
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