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To: Coyoteman; editor-surveyor; CottShop; betty boop
You write, “This is a scientific matter, not a political one; or ought so to be regarded.” To this I respond, “This is a scientific matter, not a ***religious*** one; or ought so to be regarded.”

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Cyoteman,

Any subject that addresses the topics of the origin of man has profound **religious** consequences for all the children in the school. The origin of man brings into question the great metaphysical questions of:

1) Where did we come from?
2) Why are we here?
3) Where do we go when we die?

Is is any wonder that **you** get touchy about evolution, or that those supporting ID or creationism have strong opinions about how this topic is introduced to their children?

There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that any government school can approach the topic of the origins of life without establishing the religious worldview of some, and crushing those of others. Government is forbidden by our First Amendment to do that! But,,in the Orwellian nether world of government schools human rights are suspended.

Solution: Begin the process of privatizing K-12 education. What is needed is complete separation of SCHOOL and state!

You can then have your religiously **non-neutral** madrassess, and the IDers and creationists can have theirs.

The government will then not be threatening parents and children with imprisonment and foster care, if they refuse to attend the government indoctrination camps. Citizens will not be under threat of sheriff’s sale of home and businesses (or imprisonment) if they refuse to support a government school religious agenda hostile to their metaphysical religious worldview. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.)

48 posted on 05/24/2007 7:10:18 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
Solution: Begin the process of privatizing K-12 education. What is needed is complete separation of SCHOOL and state!

You can then have your religiously **non-neutral** madrassess, and the IDers and creationists can have theirs.

The government will then not be threatening parents and children with imprisonment and foster care, if they refuse to attend the government indoctrination camps. Citizens will not be under threat of sheriff’s sale of home and businesses (or imprisonment) if they refuse to support a government school religious agenda hostile to their metaphysical religious worldview. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.)

Can you say Balkans, boys and girls? I knew you could!

49 posted on 05/24/2007 7:14:04 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: wintertime; Coyoteman; Alamo-Girl; editor-surveyor; hosepipe
There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that any government school can approach the topic of the origins of life without establishing the religious worldview of some, and crushing those of others. Government is forbidden by our First Amendment to do that!

This bears repeating wintertime! Though your admonition all too often falls on deaf ears these days.

The public schools these days seem to be in the business of socialization, not education. I'd love to see more private alternatives. Coyoteman thinks this would lead to Balkanization. But I don't see that as a necessary consequence.

It's ironic that the public schools go whoopy over promoting "diversity," when they themselves appear to reject it when it comes to their own perceived self-interest.

Thanks so much for writing wintertime!

77 posted on 05/25/2007 7:29:09 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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