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DDT debate halts Rachel Carson honor
AP via Yahoo ^ | May 23, 2007 | AP Staff

Posted on 05/24/2007 5:10:16 AM PDT by Lacey

A senator has delayed submitting a resolution to honor pioneering environmentalist Rachel Carson on the 100th anniversary of her birth after a colleague signaled he would block it because of her aggressive fight against pesticides.

Carson's 1962 book "Silent Spring" revealed the harmful effects of DDT and other pesticides and helped launch the environmental movement. The longtime resident of Silver Spring, Md., died in 1964. She would have turned 100 this Sunday.

Sen. Benjamin Cardin (news, bio, voting record)'s resolution had intended to honor Carson for her "legacy of scientific rigor coupled with poetic sensibility." But Susan Sullam, a spokeswoman for the Maryland Democrat, said he delayed the bill because Sen. Tom Coburn (news, bio, voting record), R-Okla., signaled he would use Senate rules to halt it.

In a statement on his Web site Tuesday, Coburn confirmed that he is holding up the bill. He blamed Carson for using "junk science" to turn the public against chemicals such as DDT that could prevent the spread of insect-borne diseases such as malaria.

Coburn, a doctor specializing in family medicine, obstetrics and allergies, said in the statement that 1 million to 2 million people die of malaria every year.

Since Carson's death from cancer, she has been celebrated as a hero by the environmental movement and as the inspiration for aggressive advocacy for nature.

Under Senate rules, any senator may hold up legislation that is scheduled as a "unanimous consent" measure for quicker-than-usual passage.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: environmentalism; frauds; rachaelcarson; senatorcoburn; tomcoburn
Bravo, Senator Coburn!
1 posted on 05/24/2007 5:10:17 AM PDT by Lacey
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To: Lacey
Wow! Someone with the guts to speak truth to power and to stand up to the environazis.
2 posted on 05/24/2007 5:13:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

the ban on DDT has cost 250 million lives in developing countries, and the fact that we used DDT in the US is why we don’t have a malaria problem...


3 posted on 05/24/2007 5:15:54 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Lacey

Thank God a Rep. senator is speaking up against this nonsense.


4 posted on 05/24/2007 5:16:40 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: marktwain

Speak truth to power?....That’s H!tlery’s mantra........In this case it’s more like speaking reality to the insane...........


5 posted on 05/24/2007 5:17:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Lacey
One place where you don’t ever want to speak of this woman is New Zealand, environmentally minded though the country may be. Carson hated chemicals because they had long scary names, and proposed that pests be fought by introducing natural enemies. In fertile New Zealand the Carsonite opponent species imported to do this tended to proliferate and become a bigger nuisance than the original pest.
6 posted on 05/24/2007 5:18:20 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Lacey
"Since Carson's death from cancer, she has been celebrated as a hero by the environmental movement and as the inspiration for aggressive advocacy for nature."

Translation: Kill people, not mosquitoes.

7 posted on 05/24/2007 5:18:36 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Lacey
Rachel Carson has killed more people than Adolph Hitler ever dreamed of.
8 posted on 05/24/2007 5:20:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Lacey

Rachel Lied, people died!................


9 posted on 05/24/2007 5:25:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Lacey
I've found DDT to be quite effective, actually........
10 posted on 05/24/2007 5:26:00 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: Condor51

Too bad she died in ‘64 and never saw what she did.


11 posted on 05/24/2007 5:26:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Red Badger
Rachel Lied, people died!..........

Ka-ching.

12 posted on 05/24/2007 5:29:21 AM PDT by period end of story (Whole Lotta Love)
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To: Lacey

“Carson’s 1962 book “Silent Spring” revealed the harmful effects of DDT and other pesticides” Typical AP. When I see an outrageous statement in a newspaper, the first place I look, and nine times out of ten, it is AP. Carson should be celebrated for one thing only, putting everything less important than man in a position above man, resulting in more disease death and destruction, than many of the most murderous humans on the face of the earth.

Typical of PC reaction, and Congressional idiocy, in listening to constituents. Now the scene has been set, and we can no longer trust the representative nature of the Republic, and have to jump in at every misstep. So that the voice of reason can be heard above the din of ...Al Gore as an example, or Michael Moore or the Rachael Carson’s of the world.

At a million deaths a year, from mosquito born disease, and I would say that is a conservative number, she appears equal or greater than abortion as a killer. Even if we lay only half of the legacy at her feet she is still a very respectable mass murderer. Some legacy, all from a book based on Junk Science, and a little help from your friends in the media and the stupidity of the average American. Uh oh, that sounds particularly elitist.


13 posted on 05/24/2007 5:34:40 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Lacey

They already have places named after her “The Rachel Carson Estuarine Research Reserve” in North Carolina is one.

http://www.nature.org/wherewework/northamerica/states/northcarolina/preserves/art5623.html

And the Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge total approximately 4,700 acres in ten geographic units from Kittery to Cape Elizabeth, Maine.

http://www.fws.gov/northeast/rachelcarson/descript.html

http://www.fws.gov/northeast/rachelcarson/


14 posted on 05/24/2007 5:36:23 AM PDT by Garvin (Loose Lips help Liberals defeat America)
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To: Lacey
I’m soooo proud of our Senator! Whata guy!
15 posted on 05/24/2007 5:37:36 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Lacey

This baby ought to be bumped till the sun rises tomorrow.


16 posted on 05/24/2007 5:38:17 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Garvin

Do you suppose there is any validity at all to the named places as far as her legacy is concerned. I’m willing to at least listen. If not, there should be a concerted effort to remove her name and replace it with something or someone more appropriate.


17 posted on 05/24/2007 5:41:49 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Lacey

Carson is getting feted AGAIN in the ‘Burgh this weekend.

If you can stomach it, read the Amazon.com reviews of Silent Spring - you will see such a perfect recitation of lefty talking points you will wonder if these people have had a chip implanted.


18 posted on 05/24/2007 5:41:50 AM PDT by relictele
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To: relictele

You have nailed it, now if we could just reprogram the chip. I guess we would then all be alike, Utopia having been reached, and at least “they” would or should be happy. Isn’t Utopia the leftist dream? Unfortunately they seem to leave a large mess behind requiring mass graves here and there.


19 posted on 05/24/2007 5:46:03 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: wita

ABC radio is spinning it for the DUmmies as well.

20 posted on 05/24/2007 5:46:47 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Duncan Hunter - the only SERIOUS candidate for President 2008)
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To: Lacey

Check out my blog page and the crazy replies from the Enviro-Whackos.

http://give-n-go.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2006-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=2


21 posted on 05/24/2007 5:48:49 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: Lacey

Senator Coburn is the greatest!


22 posted on 05/24/2007 5:52:47 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: BlazingArizona
I visited NZ. Rabbits and deer are considered pests, too. Both originally imported for hunting. Deer destroy trees by eating the bark, and rabbits go after their symbol, the ground dwelling nocturnal Kiwi.

I would have like to have seen DDT used on the dang sand fleas when I was there.

23 posted on 05/24/2007 5:53:20 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: TheRobb7

LOL!


24 posted on 05/24/2007 5:54:30 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: Condor51

More people than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot combined.

But, that’s okay since most of the people she killed were black & brown babies. /s


25 posted on 05/24/2007 5:59:00 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: wita
The term "Utopia" means nowhere. St. Thomas More popularized it. Check out "Hoodwinked" by Jack Cashill. It has someinteresting things to say about this DDT scare and many other things as well

gohunter08.com

26 posted on 05/24/2007 6:00:41 AM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: kitkat
And while we're at it

rep Duncan Hunter is the only Reagan Republican(elected in 1980) who is running for president.

He needs our support.

gohunter08.com

27 posted on 05/24/2007 6:02:42 AM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: Garvin

I was saddened to find out that where we vacation in Biddeford ME is inside the refuge named for her.


28 posted on 05/24/2007 6:10:02 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Lacey

Good job Coburn. My favorite senator.

Carson should be villified as a mass murderer, not promoted as a scientist. Her entire book is crap and has been thoroughly debunked.


29 posted on 05/24/2007 6:20:25 AM PDT by kidd
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To: joeystoy

I laughed out loud at the moron who claimed that Rachel Carson “died from DDT exposure” - too funny.


30 posted on 05/24/2007 6:26:26 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right ,Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: xcamel
the ban on DDT has cost 250 million lives in developing countries,

But those were just blacks, who the eugenic left do not consider human beings.

31 posted on 05/24/2007 6:29:52 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Lacey

Right on, Sen. Coburn!!!

Rachel Carson’s outright lies and manipulation of the facts (her use of junk science, so far, well exceeds that of Algore’s own use of junk science!) has saved the lives of billions of deadly mosquitoes and led to the deaths of an estimated 40 to 80 million people worldwide from mosquito-borne diseases!!

For that she should be honored!!??

My bad. I forgot that this was the leftist-led Senate that promotes killing unborn children and letting dictators and mass murderers run free to do what they want as long as no leftist politicians are harmed in the process!! Disgusting, despicable excuses for human beings!!


32 posted on 05/24/2007 6:36:54 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Lacey
"Carson's 1962 book "Silent Spring" revealed invented the harmful effects of DDT..."

And condemned millions in developing nations to painful death from malaria and other insect-borne diseases.

If we had not already wiped out malaria in this country, we would have laughed her into a well-deserved obscurity.

33 posted on 05/24/2007 7:08:57 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: wideawake

You should see the documentary Mine Your Own Business. I saw it last December. It’s a brilliant look at the racist nature of the worldwide environmental movement and how the Greenies are blocking economic growth in developing countries.


34 posted on 05/24/2007 7:09:16 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: Lacey

Coburn is right. The banning of DDT has directly caused the death of millions of people. But as long as American Liberals get to feel good about Carson’s movement, hey, that’s all that matters...right?


35 posted on 05/24/2007 7:36:05 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Lacey

That’s my Senator!!!


36 posted on 05/24/2007 8:02:23 AM PDT by bsaunders
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To: wita
and the stupidity of the average American. Uh oh, that sounds particularly elitist.
The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing . . .

It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity,
and they very seldom teach it enough.
- Adam Smith

. . . sounds much more modest that " . . . the stupidity of the average American" - but it basically means the same thing.

37 posted on 05/24/2007 8:07:02 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Lacey
Carson's 1962 book "Silent Spring" revealed the harmful effects of DDT and other pesticides and helped launch the environmental movement.

No, it "revealed" nothing. It alleged harmful effects from DDT, which have since been debunked. Yet our government maintains its ban on DDT to this day.

Ms. Carson's campaign against DDT has cost millions of lives. It should be shelved next to Mein Kampf.


38 posted on 05/24/2007 8:16:24 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: bsaunders
That’s my Senator!!!

You're lucky. All I get is Herb Kohl and Russ Feingold...

*sigh*

39 posted on 05/24/2007 9:19:06 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: Lacey

DDT/Coburn BUMP!


40 posted on 05/24/2007 9:30:35 AM PDT by upchuck (Who will support Fred Thompson? Anyone who enjoys a dose of common sense not wrapped in doublespeak.)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

You’re both lucky. I have Her Heinous and Schmuck Schumer.


41 posted on 05/24/2007 10:41:41 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: joeystoy
You’re both lucky. I have Her Heinous and Schmuck Schumer.

Point taken... Your Senators suck more than mine.
(Note that this is only possible because of the innate ability of liberals to increase their level of suckdom. It in no way dimishes how much my Senators suck)

42 posted on 05/24/2007 11:25:14 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: gridlock

ping


43 posted on 05/24/2007 2:48:44 PM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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To: TChris

Great post. I bookmarked those sites. Thank you.


44 posted on 05/24/2007 3:06:20 PM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper; joeystoy

Well, I have a walking corpse (Lautenberg) and a man who actually paid himself rent from a government grant (Menendez). What a Sopranoesque sh-thole I live in (at least politically).


45 posted on 05/24/2007 3:09:16 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Lacey

Bump for Senator Coburn!
He also exposed the money-pit that is the renovation of the UN building
(great audio on The Hugh Hewitt Show and even on C-Span).
Coburn even had The Donald (Trump, for the uninformed) testify
about how he (Trump) tried to help the UN do the job for a fraction of
what will be a monstrous final bill.


46 posted on 05/24/2007 3:16:22 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Red Badger
“Speak truth to power?....That’s H!tlery’s mantra........In this case it’s more like speaking reality to the insane...........”

You are correct, but I enjoy the irony of using the Left’s slogans against them.

47 posted on 05/24/2007 7:48:56 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: TChris

The article in your first link doesn’t add up. It attributes thinning of songbird eggs in the UK to industrial waste. In the US, the problem was thinning eggs in raptors, pelicans and other birds at the end of the food chain.

What caused those birds’ numbers to rebound if it wasn’t the ban on DDT?


48 posted on 05/24/2007 7:59:40 PM PDT by Nachoman (Sarcasm. Just one of many services I provide.)
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To: Nachoman
There are many possibilities, the foremost of which is the removal of birds of prey form the “unprotected” category to a heavily protected category with heavy penalties for even possessing one raptor feather.

There was also a much greater sensitivity to the preservation of habitat, and a strong educational component to the value of raptors. I knew a man who hunted hawks for fun in the 60’s, and it was considered within the mainstream. It no longer is.

49 posted on 05/24/2007 8:38:02 PM PDT by marktwain
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