Live Thread: Senate Immigration/Amnesty Debate, 5/24/07 (Coleman-Bond Amendment, etc.)

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[truthkeeper]

Today's debate is just beginning. President Bush is also speaking in the Rose Garden today at 11:00 EST on this issue and war funding. (A Live Thread is up on that one too.)

I have to leave today so I can only check in periodically. Thus far Menendez (D of New Jersey) is slamming the Coleman-Bond amendment, which will REQUIRE that states and municipalities permanently END "Sanctuary Cities." Of course, his reasoning is tortured; he's pulled out the old crying towel, and is already playing the the Nazi card ("Your papers, please.")

Another amendment will be debated today as well but thus far I have no information on that one.

[truthkeeper]

Carry on, you people.

[truthkeeper]

Apologies, folks. It sounded like he just called it the "CORNYN" amendment. It sure sounded like "COLEMAN" before.

Moderator, if some nice FReeper could help me clarify this I'll ask if you could kindly fix my headline. Thanks.

[K-oneTexas]

Other than searching individuals posts, is there a list of amendment offered to this sham and what they say/do?

[Baynative]

I am sad to say that I fear for the country my grandson will inherit, yet I feel some relief that I won't be around to see it.

Nothing in our nation's recent past is more disgusting or embarrassing than the behavior of our current congress and administration when it comes to enforcing our immigration laws.

My God, what must our troops in Iraq think when they hear our leaders say they not only refuse to defend our own borders but, they advocate giving lawbreakers more rights and privileges than natural born citizens?

I wish I could send our congressional leadership back in time and force them to tell these guys face to face ...

...that some day a foreign invasion would penetrate our southern border...

...and demand free access to our citizens' rights and medical care, free education, drivers licenses and THE RIGHT TO VOTE!

...and that we would roll over, refuse to enforce our laws and grant their demands with no resistence.

May history treat this congress and administration with the shame they deserve!

[truthkeeper]

I wish. I know Menendez started the day off by saying they would be debating TWO amendments, so we know another one will be offered up later today.

[Kimberly GG]

And I am sad to say that I have 3, young adult sons who think their mom is off her rocker, that this whole immigration thing is “no big deal”. Nothing I say convinces them otherwise...they’ve completely tuned me out.

FYI...for those who didn’t see the thread...Bush presser coming up on Fox regarding Iraq and Immigration Bill.

[Spruce]

Norm Coleman(R - MN)

COLEMAN INTRODUCES AMENDMENT TO CLOSE SANCTUARY LOOPHOLE AND ALLOW FEDERAL-LOCAL COMMUNICATION


...Senator Coleman’s legislation will not require local law enforcement to use their own resources to enforce federal immigration laws. Moreover, it does not require local law enforcement to conduct immigration raids or act as federal agents. Senator Coleman’s bill will simply give law enforcement officers the ability to inquiry about a person’s immigration status during their routine investigations, and in turn report their findings to the appropriate Federal authorities though already-established channels, as they are currently required to do by law. ...

[truthkeeper]

Thank you, Spruce. It appears the original headline is okay.

Off to the Rose Garden thread now...

[VU4G10]

I smell alcohol??

[Prokopton]

What a waste of time. Sanctuary policies are already illegal, just ask Rudy who was on the losing end of those court decisions. What does it possibly matter if cities have sanctuary policies when this bill will make the entire United States a sanctuary for illegal invaders.

[Baynative]

Get off yer BUTTS!

Make the effort before the end of the day tomorrow to visit the office of any senator or congressional rep. IN PERSON. It doesn't matter who you visit, just make sure you let someone on the staff know you took the time to walk in the door and complain about amnesty.

PASS THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!
If every one of us does this it could be 1/2 million of us by tomorrow afternoon.

THEY ARE VOTING MONDAY!!
- Let's get them talking and let them know we are here.

If you don't make the effort, then comment no more because you are part of the problem.

[K-oneTexas]

Yesterday, I believe, Cornyn introduced a bill/amendment to bar felons. I think Grassley also introduced a bill/amendment yesterday. I also thought I read somewhere that Kyl (I think) and Sessions offered amendments also, but unsure.

I do remember last year (2006) that Cornyn-Kyl introduced an Immigration Bill to counter the McCain-Kennedy Immigration (Fiasco) Bill. They may come back.

[Baynative]

There is a representative's office near you, you know.

[geezerwheezer]

Done been to both of their offices and spoke with the worker bees there and told them in no uncertain terms what I thought of this “Great American Give Away Scam”. They were quite upset too.

[K-oneTexas]

Amendments to the The “Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007”.

Cornyn - bar felons
Coleman/Bond - end Sanctuary cities




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Talk about changes needed to be made to the bill:

Kerry - more rights for detainees
Kennedy - Liquor store 'gangs'

[truthkeeper]

Thank you for that.

[Vision]

Contact your representative.

[c-b 1]

It’s sad your sons aren’t paying attention, don’t give up on them, keep trying to educate them.

[K-oneTexas]

Found this at http://www.bluelatinos.org/blog/1. A little more infor than my initial attempt.

The following amendments are pending:

- Kennedy-Specter amendment in the nature of a substitute. (#1150)

- Grassley amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to clarify that the revocation of an alien’s visa or other documentation is not subject to judicial review. (#1166)

- Cornyn amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to establish a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals. (#1184)

- Coleman-Bond amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to facilitate information sharing between Federal and local law enforcement officials related to an individual’s immigration status. (#1158)

- Akaka amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to exempt children of certain Filipino World War II veterans from the numerical limitations on immigrant visas. (#1186)

- Bingaman amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to reduce to 200,000 the number of certain non-immigrants permitted to be admitted during a fiscal year (#1169), agreed to by a roll call vote of 74-24.

- Feinstein-Martinez amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to provide for the protection of unaccompanied alien children, and for other purposes (#1146), agreed to by voice vote.

- Gregg amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to ensure control of our Nation's borders and strengthen enforcement of our immigration laws (#1172), agreed to by voice vote.

- Graham amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to provide for minimum sentences for aliens who renter the United States after removal (#1173), agreed to by unanimous consent.

- Leahy amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to clarify rules applicable to aliens employed as dairy workers (#1165, as modified), agreed to by unanimous consent.

- Hutchinson amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to provide local officials and the Secretary of Homeland Security greater involvement in decisions regarding the location of border fencing (# 1168), agreed to by unanimous consent.

[Baynative]

YOU ARE A GREAT AMERICAN !

I'm heading out to visit all three of my local offices now.

[Kimberly GG]

NOTING NOW ON:

Coleman SA 1158: Restores to state and local law enforcement officers the ability to pursue a person’s immigration status as part of their daily work and, subsequently, to report their suspicions to the appropriate Federal authorities though already-established channels, as they are already required to do by law.

NumbersUSA Urges A YES Vote
Although sanctuary policies are explicitly prohibited under Federal law, they have not been challenged by the Bush Administration. This amendment enables state and local officials to inquire about a person’s immigration status for law enforcement and benefit application purposes.

[Kimberly GG]

Coleman Amendment FAILED by one vote!

[Kimberly GG]

May be voted on next:

Dorgan SA 1181: Sunsets the bill’s new guestworker provisions in five years.

NumbersUSA Urges A YES Vote
New guestworker programs are unnecessary because the importation of additional cheap foreign workers depresses wages in many sectors of the economy and causes even higher levels of unemployment and underemployment for native-born workers.

Dick Durbin giving a sob story about his grandmother having come to the US LEGALLY. Guess he doesn’t recognize the difference.

[Kimberly GG]

Dorgan failed by one vote.

[Seadog Bytes]

Thanks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835886/posts?page=44#44

[SandyInSeattle]

Is this on CSpan?

[spectre]

It's on CSpan2, Sandy.

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[truthkeeper]

Coleman Amendment FAILED by one vote!

Good grief. We couldn't even get the senate louses to dump sanctuary cities??

House...PLEASE hold!

[potlatch]

Thanks for the ping!

[SandyInSeattle]

Thanks... cubicle bound.

[devolve]

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Good post potlatch!

[potlatch]

Thank you!

[Drango]

THEY ARE VOTING MONDAY

Uhhhhh Monday is Memorial day and there won't be a Congress critter anywhere near a work space.

[dixiechick2000]

LOL!

That is GREAT, potlatch!

[potlatch]

Thank you DC, another old but goodie one!

If you get a chance look at my eagle gif I posted to you and all. On one thread I forgot to put the right music, lol, have “Galveston” linked to a Memorial DAy post!!

Going bonkers here! I reposted on the Canteen with America by Elvis.

[dixiechick2000]

I saw your beautiful eagle.
I agree that Elvis’ “America” is a much better choice. ;o)