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What May Well Be the Ultimate Rationale Behind the Elites' Push for Legalizing the Illegals
WorldNet Daily ^ | May 24, 2007 | WorldNet Daily

Posted on 05/24/2007 8:47:02 AM PDT by ftro

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To: brownsfan
You know, its funny, but back in the days before the WWW when all we had was USEnet, the conspiracy going around was that the world was going to be divided into about three or four regions. European, American, Asian and maybe MiddleEastern (although parts of that are covered by Asia.

And low and behold the EU sprang up. Now there's talk; a lot more than talk actually, about working on at least a N.American Union. China's working on becoming the dominate power in Asia....

I'll agree that a lot of politicians today are out for the here and what can you do for me now, but the people behind them pulling strings, and they do exist, are long term thinkers. To pretend otherwise is in itself, shortsighted.

Our government is becoming less about serving the people, and more about serving the people behind the curtain.

41 posted on 05/24/2007 11:29:50 AM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: brownsfan
In re www.spp.gov:

Thanks for providing the link. The NAU is definitely where the honchos think this is heading. How fast? How far?

42 posted on 05/24/2007 11:41:45 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Crazies to my left. Wimps to my right. BTW, Muslims ain't "Immigrants." They's Colonists.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“Thanks for providing the link. The NAU is definitely where the honchos think this is heading. How fast? How far?”

If it wasn’t a .gov domain, I’d have been suspicious. Now I’m just distressed.


43 posted on 05/24/2007 11:48:32 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: chicagolady

ping


44 posted on 05/24/2007 11:54:46 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Crazies to my left. Wimps to my right. BTW, Muslims ain't "Immigrants." They's Colonists.)
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To: brownsfan

Like most of us, you probably aren’t accustomed to watching Lou Dobbs, though it is often covered by Glenn Beck as well...but here are some of Dobb’s stories and others about the creation of a North American Union, including the secret meeting held in Banff, Canada and the nexts steps in the agenda...secured open borders, amnesty for illegals and their employers. Steps already taken/in the works...Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, TransTexas Corridor, Eminent Domain, and Mexican Trucking...

CNN Video:Lou Dobbs Slams CFR & North American Union
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjsy2Z3kdI

CNN- Lou Dobbs Outs Those Involved in N. American Union
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ernLnhIR8uI&mode=related&search=

NAFTA Superhighway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmFrYWPoG8&mode=related&search=

N American Union Highway has Texas Candidates up in arms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlumHzseiYw&mode=related&search=

Banff Meeting:
NORTH AMERICAN FORUM
CONFIRMED PARTICIPANTS
(Internal Document, Not for Public Release)

Report dated August 31, 2006

Forum Co-Chairs:
Dr. Pedro Aspe
Hon. Peter Lougheed
Hon. George Shultz

Canadian Participants

* Col. Peter Atkinson, Special Advisor to Chief of Defence Staff

* Hon. Perrin Beatty, Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters

* Mr. Peter M. Boehm, Assistant Deputy Minister, North America, Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada

* Mr. Thomas d’Aquino, Canadian Council of Chief Executives

* Hon. Stockwell Day, Minister of Public Safety, Government of Canada

* Dr. Wendy Dobson, The Institute for International Business

* Mr. N. Murray Edwards, Edco Financial Holdings Ltd.

* Mr. Ward Elcock, Deputy Minister of National Defence

* Mr. Bill Elliott, Associate Deputy Minister, Public Safety

* Dr. John English, The Cdn Centre for International Governance Innovation

* Mr. Brian Felesky, Felesky Flynn LLP

* Mr. Richard L. George, Suncor Energy Inc.

* Dr. Roger Gibbins, Canada West Foundation

* Rear Adm Roger Girouard, Commander Joint Task Force Pacific, Cdn Forces

* Major Gen Daniel Gosselin, Director General, International Security Policy

* Mr. James K. Gray, Canada West Foundation

* Mr. Fred Green, Canadian Pacific Railway

* Mr. V. Peter Harder, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs

* Mr. Paul J. Hill, Harvard Developments Inc.

* General Rick Hillier, Chief of the Defence Staff

* Mr. Pierre Marc Johnston, Heenan Blaikie

* Mr. James Kinnear, Pengrowth Corporation

* Mr. Harold N. Kvisle, TransCanada Corporation

* Hon. John P. Manley, McCarthy Tetrault LLP

* Mr. Ron Mannix, Coril Holdings Ltd.

* Mr. Ron Mathison, Matco Investments

* Hon. Anne McLellan, Senior Counsel, Bennett Jones

* Hon. Greg Melchin, Minister of Energy, Government of Alberta

* Ms.Sharon Murphy, Chevron Canada

* Ms. Sheila O’Brien, President, Corporate Director, Belvedere Investments

* Hon. Gordon O’Connor, Minister of Defense, Government of Canada

* Mr. Berel Rodal, International Center on Nonviolent Conflict

* Mr. Gordon Smith, Chairman, The International Development Research Centre

AMERICAN PARTICIPANTS

* Ms. Deborah Bolton, Political Advisor to Commander, US Northcom

* Mr. Ron T. Covais, President, The Americas, Lockheed Martin Corporation

* Sec. Kenneth W. Dam, Max Pam Professor Emeritus of American & Foreign Law and Senior Lecturer, University of Chicago Law School

* Mr. Dan Fisk, Senior Director, Western Hemisphere, National Security Council

* Sec. Ryan Henry, Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Policy

* Ms. Carla A. Hills, Chairman & CEO, Hills & Co.

* Ms. Caryn Hollis, DASD (Acting) Western Hemisphere Affairs

* Mr. Bill Irwin , Manager - International Government Affairs; Policy, Government and Public Affairs, Chevron Corporation

* Mr. Robert G. James, President, Enterprise Asset Management Inc.

* Admiral Tim Keating, Commander, US Northern Command

* Mr. Floyd Kvamme, Chair, President’s Council of Advisors on Science & Technology; Director, Centre for Global Security Res.

* Dr. Ronald F. Lehman II , Director, Center for Global Security Research, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

* Mr. William W. McIlhenny, Policy Planning Council for Western Hemisphere Affairs

* Dr. Peter McPherson , President, National Association of State Universities & Land-Grant Colleges

* Ms. Doris Meissner, Senior Fellow, Migration Policy Institute

* Dr. George Miller, Director, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

* Mr. George Nethercutt, Chairman, US Section of the Permanent Joint Board on Defense, US – Canada (Security)

* Mary Anastasia O’Grady, Journalist for Wall Street Journal (Area Specialist)

* Dr. Robert A. Pastor, Director, Center for North American Studies, American University, Washington, DC

* Dr. William Perry, Co-Director, Preventive Defense Project

* Lt. Gen. Gene Renuart, USAF Senior Military Assist. to Sec. Rumsfeld

* Mr. Eric Ruff, , Department of Defense Press Secretary

* Sec. Donald R. Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, US Department of Defense

* Dr. James Schlesinger, Former Sec. Of Energy & Defense

* Mr. William Schneider, President, International Planning Services

* Sec. Clay Sell, Deputy Secretary of Energy, US Dept. of Energy

* Dr. Thomas A. Shannon, Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs

* Dr. David G. Victor, Director, Program on Energy & Sustainable Development, Center for Environmental Science & Policy

* Maj. Gen. Mark A Volcheff, Director, Plans, Policy & Strategy, NORAD-NORTHCOM

* Ms. Jane Wales, President & CEO, World Affairs Council of Northern California

* Mr. R. James Woolsey, Vice President, Booz Allen Hamilton

Mexican Participants:

* Emb Andrés Rozental, (Mexican Coordinator) – Mexican Council on Foreign Relations

* Silvia Hernández , Former Senator and Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on North America

* Mario Molina , , 1995 Nobel Laureate in Chemistry

* Fernando Chico Pardo , CEO, Promecap

* Juan Gallardo , , CEO, Grupo GEUSA

* Gerónimo Gutiérrez , Deputy Foreign Minister for North America

* Luis de la Calle , Consultant. Former Deputy Minister of Economy

* Agustín Barrios Gómez , Solutions Abroad

* Vinicio Suro, , PEMEX

* Eduardo Medina Mora , Secretary of Public Security

* Carlos Heredia , State Government of Michoacán

* Jaime Zabludowsky , Consultant. Former trade negotiator

* Manuel Arango , CEO, Grupo Concord

* Jorge Santibañez , President, El Colegio de la Frontera Norte

* Luis Rubio, CIDAC

* Mónica Serrano , El Colegio de México, Señor Fellow Oxford University

* Arturo Sarukhan, Coordinator of Int’l Affairs, Campaign of Felipe Calderon

* Juan Camilo Mouriño, General Coordinator of President Elect’s transition team

* Ernesto Cordero, Coordinator for Public Policy Issues Ambassadors/Consul General

* Mr. Carlos de Icaza, , Ambassador of Mexico to the United States

* Mr. Gaëtan Lavertu, Ambassador of Canada to Mexico

* Ms. Maria Teresa Garcia Segovia de Madero, Ambassador of Mexico to Canada

* Mr. Thomas Huffaker, U.S. Consul General in Calgary (on DOD’s list)

* Mr. John Dickson, Deputy Chief of Mission, US Embassy in Ottawa, (representing Ambassador of US to Canada)

* Mr. Colin Robertson, Minister & Head, Washington Advocacy Secretariat, (representing Ambassador of Canada to US)


45 posted on 05/24/2007 12:00:12 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: reagan_fanatic
"The Republicans want the cheap workforce, and hope they will get 'conservatives' Catholics. The Democrats want the votes."

And the Republicans are willing to become a one party gov't (and it won't be their party) because most have been bought and paid for beyond their wildest dreams to sell out not just their constituents, but their country.

46 posted on 05/24/2007 1:56:46 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: gubamyster; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping-Back.


47 posted on 05/24/2007 2:23:40 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Crazies to my left. Wimps to my right. BTW, Muslims ain't "Immigrants." They's Colonists.)
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To: Mr. Mojo; brownsfan
keeping illegals illegal

THis is precisely what the charades on immigration over the last decade have been intended to accomplish. Not so long ago, when folks called in to the mighty Rush Limbaugh to complain about illegal immigration, noneother than Rush told them, ".....sign of a great economy .... work Americans don't want .....yadda yadda yadda" In short, the standard American Chamber of Commerce blather of the time.

This gambit has obviously worn itself out. But now the protracted footdragging has commenced. FCOL, they cannot even build a goddam fence! In the meantime, the illegals continue to show up, have those American-citizen anchor babies, and continue La Reconquista de Aztlán.

If a couple of million fast-breeding Albanians can strip Kosovo from Serbia in 50 years, don't you think 50 million Mexicans can take back the Southwest?

48 posted on 05/25/2007 6:09:34 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Crazies to my left. Wimps to my right. BTW, Muslims ain't "Immigrants." They's Colonists.)
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To: RolandBurnam
(1)I don’t know about any ‘sinister’ north american union plan,
(2)but it seems to me big goverment wants the mecksickuns here to keep GDP growing, as birthrate in US is too low, we need people to fuel the machine. too easy to quit aborting the babies.

(1)By now, you should realize that there is a "Plan." And the planning continues. Http://www.spp.gov.

(2) That is the basic reasoning behind the plan. Mexicans are doing the work Americans won't do. That is, having children.

Problem? The "Plan" is being moved along with NO input from the electorate.So far, it's a plan only a Mexican ... or a world government guy ... could love.

49 posted on 05/25/2007 6:20:44 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Crazies to my left. Wimps to my right. BTW, Muslims ain't "Immigrants." They's Colonists.)
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To: brownsfan

They are very rational, since Conservatives are small in number, and have no political power compared the the left and their massive media, its understandable that they are picking their poison.

Either their small conservative base leaves them, (which they usually do when the candidate gets bad press anyway) and risk a loss, or the MSM pounds them as racists and bigots, and they risk a loss.

Either way they lose, so maybe they choose to go out without their reputations, and their family’s reputations forever destroyed as anti-immigrant and racists.


50 posted on 05/25/2007 6:29:13 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: brownsfan

You made two assertions, with no proof. First, our leaders are only concerned about the here and now. Second, they are not smart or dedicated enough to pull some sort of bamboozle off. I would like to think both of those are true, but first, I need a little more than just your say so. Can you give something more concrete than just your opinion?
susie


51 posted on 05/25/2007 2:25:41 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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