Posted on 05/24/2007 1:00:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl
- Jeffrey T. Kuhner is the editor of Insight (www.insightmag.com).
Rudy Giulianis candidacy threatens to shatter the Republican Party. The former New York mayor remains the partys front-runner for the 2008 presidential nomination. If this trend continues, his victory will mark the end of the modern GOP.
Ever since Barry Goldwater, the Republicans have become the countrys conservative party. The party stands not only for limited government, low taxes, capitalism and strong national defense, but for something even more fundamental: God, family and bourgeois civilization. The GOP has been the only national political institution willing to defend Judeo-Christian morality from the relentless secular liberal onslaught of the 1960s. At the core of this defense have been abortion and the traditional family. Giulianis brand of social liberalism will fundamentally alter the nature of the party.
He is often portrayed in the media as a hawkish conservative. He is nothing of the sort. Rather, he is a type of Republican that has become increasingly fashionable (and influential) over the last decade: A Big Government corporatist, who champions plutocracy, open borders and the rights of big business. As mayor, he had many accomplishmentscutting taxes, cracking down on crime and reducing welfare dependency. Yet he also transformed New York into a safe haven for millions of illegal immigrants; he refused to substantially slash the bloated and scandal-ridden municipal bureaucracy; and he cashed in on his reputation as Americas Mayor and Mr. 9/11 to make out like a bandit after leaving office.
Pundits have gushed over his berating of Ron Paul during the recent candidates debate on FOX News, insisting Giuliani demonstrated his "toughness" on national security. He did no such thing, except make several glib statements. The media, however, is refusing to confront this fundamental question: If Giuliani is so tough on national defense, why has his lobbying firm been taking massive amounts of money from Saudi Arabia? His firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, has been lobbying on behalf of countless clients. Like many prominent politicians, Giuliani has made lots of money by entering the sleazy world of lobbying.
This presents an obvious conflict of interest. Yet even more troubling is the fact that the Saudis have become a major client of his firm. Giulianis firm has helped him acquire his vast personal fortune. However, his millions have come with a heavy price: He has been bought and paid for by the Saudis. These are the same Saudis who are the worlds largest financial sponsors of terrorism; the same Saudis who bankroll nearly half of Hamas budget; the same Saudis who have sent millions to al Qaeda and their affiliates worldwide; and the same Saudis whose regime recently denounced the U.S.-led war in Iraq as an illegal occupation of a foreign country. Hence, if Giuliani is such a patriot and someone who is so tough on national security, why has he gotten into bed with the America-hating, Jew-baiting, Wahhabist Islamists in Riyadh?
Even more troubling is his support for abortion rights. Abortion is the seminal issue of our time; it is today what slavery was in the mid-19th century. In fact, there is a considerable historical parallel between the abolitionist and pro-life movements. At their core, both share the same objective: To protect and uphold each individuals basic human dignity.
The great sin of slavery was that the system denied the essential humanity of Americas black population. Encoded in law was the perniciousand evilprinciple that an entire class of people was less than fully human.
The same barbaric logic applies to abortion. It denies the essential humanity of unborn babies, consigning an entire class of people to be murdered because they are falsely viewed as being less than human. The results have been devastating. Nearly 50 million babies have been slaughtered since Roe v. Wade became law. The pro-life movement is not simply a religious crusade, but, like slavery, it is about ensuring human rights for the weakest and most oppressed in our society. Slavery was a cancer that was eating away at Americas social and moral fabric; abortion is a cancera leukemia, in factthat is corroding and sapping the moral sinews of our society.
There is nothing more defenseless (and more innocent) than a tiny baby. This is even more so when he or she is still in the mothers womb. It is simple human decency to oppose the killing of babiesborn or unbornin cold blood. If a politician cannot stand up for such a basic, simple principle as the sanctity of unborn children and all human life, then what principle will he stand up for? Ultimately, the answer is none.
This is clearly the case with Giuliani. His fundamental problem is that his reach exceeds his grasp. He was a good mayor of New York. He is nothing more and nothing less. Giuliani doesnt have the moral character to be president of the United States. To his campaigns dismay, many Christians are starting to realize this.
James Dobson, the founder and chairman of Focus on the Family, a prominent religious conservative group, vows that he will sit out the 2008 presidential election if Giuliani becomes the Republican presidential candidate.
"I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008. It is an irrevocable decision," he wrote in a recent column for WorldNet Daily.
"If given a Hobson'sDobson's?choice between him and Senators Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ranor if worse comes to worst, not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life. My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else."
And it is not just the evangelical Christians who threaten to abandon the GOP in case of a Giuliani candidacy. Millions of practicing Catholicsa key pillar of the Republican Party in recent yearswill leave as well. Pope Benedict XVI has thrown down the gauntlet. He has said that support for abortion will no longer be tolerated by the Catholic Church. The Holy See has made it well-known it is the duty of Catholics, both public officials and voters, to speak out boldly and unequivocally in defense of the unborn and the culture of life.
By electing Giuliani to be their nominee, Republicans will be committing political suicide. Millions of Christian conservatives, the partys shock troopsthe ones who volunteer, man the phone banks, pass out leaflets, pound the pavementwill detach themselves from the GOP. The partys base will be fracturedperhaps, permanently.
There is a common saying in Washington that the Democrats are the Evil Party and the Republicans are the Stupid Party. A Giuliani candidacy will fundamentally alter that equation: The Republicans will become the Evil and the Stupid Party. It is the political path to Hell. Republicans take it at their peril.
I agree with this article.
“A Giuliani victory will drive Christians out of the GOP”
Isn’t that the real goal?
Ain’t gonna happen. What with his support for gun control, illegal immigration, abortion, the homosexual agenda etc. etc. he isn’t going to be nominated.
Not to mention the millions of GOP voters who get registered and encouraged to vote in their churches!
I don't.
A Giuliani victory will drive Christians out of the GOP USA
There, now I agree with it.
The Christians will only be the starting point.
Good point.
Me, too. I can not and will not support him in any way.
The Rooty supporters have made this a fact in their contempt for the religious and social conservatives.
Unfortunately, the GOP is self destructing with their support of open borders, too much corruption and disrespect for their base.
Perhaps the time has come to support a Constitution Party and dump Republicans off the flotilla!
Sign me up, Indylindy!! I’m bailing from the GOP.
Ding Ding Ding
Only ten posts until the REAL issue emerges.
Illegal immigration.
Haven’t you heard? According to Hannity, take away abortion, gun control, and the homosexual agenda, Rudy is a conservative. (sarcasm on)
No, there are literally a dozen issues or more. The illegal immigration issue is the current hot topic, but the socially conservative Religious Right is concerned with pro-life and anti-homosexual issues as well. Lots of them.
Ding, Ding, Ding, You win, Bingo! Its only a part of the self destruction of the GOP who has apparently joined with the Democrats!
Take away multiple marriages, philandering, hanging around with multiple criminals and his lying, and Rudy is a saint.
I know. it really is silly how people try to rehabilitate him.
He is mayor of New York ergo we must elect him.
(Member since 2005.)
Sort of support Christian conservatives forming their own political group. On many issues, they can ally with Republicans, but can also champion morals, a Christianization of society, (and support Creationism without as much insulting—though some of the nastiest mudslingers are fellow Christians), etc. Somewhat similar to the CDU in Germany or the BQ in Canada, except instead of being specifically regional, they could align themselves or split up from the Republicans as they see fit.
Right now, the choices are very slim in the Constitution Party. I will vote GOP if Fred Thompson gets into the race.
Now let me speak only for myself.
I have ZERO contempt for religious and social conservatives - my family is full of them.
Yes - I am a Rudy supporter - always have been - I have also always said I would support the GOP nominee regardless - I love Fred Thompson.
The reason I support Rudy is the following:
1.) I believe Rudy is the toughest SOB the GOP can offer for the times we live in. (i.e. the WOT)
All other issues simply pale in my mind.
I trust Rudy on fiscal matters, law and order, and I trust him to be one tough SOB - holding his cabinet, the GOP, and the congress accountable.
- Be patient - the party will iron this out.
Mitt is doing well lately.
Fred Thompson's numbers improve daily.
Don't slander ALL Rudy supporters - some of us are reasonable people - honest.
The CP is currently only good for local and (barely) state elections. I will never again “Perot” my POTUS vote.
Well, I will “Perot” my vote if Giuliani is the nominee for the GOP. I will not vote for him under any circumstance whatsoever.
Tough guys wear dresses? lol
I get the jab - I laughed.
I will agree with you up to a point -- that Rudy is an SOB. However, there is no proof whatsoever that he would do any better than most of the GOP field. In fact, his own past statements say that he is not for controlling the borders, he is opposed to the current Immigration Bill because it doesn't go far enough to help illegals! If the guy doesn't want to control the borders, how can we trust him to fight the War on Terror? Anyway, he has several other millstones around his neck and those will surface before the elections.
And you are not alone, not by a long shot. That is why Rudy must not get the nomination!
I know plenty of people who are 100% opposed to Rudy's social views - and are still 100% behind the man.
THE TIMES WE LIVE IN.
If you think that suddenly people are going to watch the news and go "Oh - Rudy's pro-choice? forget it."
I think that's wishful thinking.
The only way Rudy loses is via a better candidate.
Rudy's numbers are very very strong - he has to be beaten - he won't lose.
FYI - he can be beaten. It will be Mitt or Fred (no one else )
We don’t need an entertainment celebrity at all. We need a good commander-in-chief—one who has military experience.
He is beating himself. His numbers will continue to drop as more and more people see him for what he is. You keep using the abortion argument, but there are lots of reasons people will not vote for him. You think the NRA members are going to back him? The Religious Right? The Immigration Opponents? The people who object to homosexual marriage/civil unions? Put all those people together and Rudy is not a "single issue" opponent, he is a multiple issue failure!
But true conservatives regard him as a pro-death RINO.
If by some miracle Richardson were to win the Dim primary and Giuliani the Republican one, do you think the NRA would endorse Richardson?
I think the NRA would sit it out, knowing how the Democrats tend to take guns from citizens.
Not to mention all that dirty laundry of his that the media will love airing over and over again.
For the record - let me position myself on your list of issues:
- NRA - I have been a member of the NRA since 1992
- Religious Right - be careful, this is not a lock step voting block - not today.
- Immigration - Rudy better watch his step - CLOSE THE BORDERS - then I could care less about those already here.
-Gay Marriage - I am against it - Civil Unions - I have no issue with that. Gay Rights - no problems - just NO SPECIAL GAY RIGHTS - FYI - I have gay friends, they are not all the devil.
Rudy's numbers are dropping.
You have no clue, do you?
I have been a member of the NRA since 1972.
I don’t have any idea who you include or what you even consider the Religious Right, but I am specifically talking about those who elected GWB in the last two elections by bringing in millions of GOP votes under the radar, by speaking out in favor of the Right to Life.
Immigrants who are here illegally should receive NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS. They should be required to return to Mexico and start the procedure legally. If they want to be reunited with their families, they should move back to Mexico.
I believe that homosexuality is an abomination, and a homosexual civil union is no different than a homosexual marriage. The purpose is to gain spousal rights, and in either case it is not only immoral, it is against nature that a man and a woman are intended to mate.
I won’t argue that.
He still holds a big lead.
I say again - beat Rudy the GOP needs a better candidate.
FRED THOMPSON or possible MITT - Mitt has looked very good.
I know you TommyDale - you are who you are.
I am who I am.
Peace be with you brother - that’s enough for today.
No question---savvy Repubs predicted this years ago when these Planned Parenthood effheads were showing up at Repub functions.
Rudy is the lapdog of these these dangerous anti-America suckers who want social conservatives out so they can turn the party into a clone of Dim liberalism. They would decimate the system of checks and balances the Framers wisely wrote into the system.
But hold on----we are not going anywhere----the takepver plan is based on the ignorant assumption that conservatives would roll over and play dead.
Ain't happening.
Isnt that the real goal?Yes. Or put it another way the goal of the Rockefeller Republicans is to re-establish control over the GOP and restore the pre-Goldwater/Reagan order of things. That is that the GOP is the party of Wall Street. Full stop.
The thing is that the Dems are already pretty close to that - they don't differ from the big-government GOP very much if you take the social issues away. (Pro NAFTA, Pro Free Trade, Pro Immigration Reform, Pro big government health, Pro using power of Gov to pick winners in industry, etc.)
Where do the millions of disaffected conservatives go? A new explicitly religious party, like Europe? The "Christian Conservative" party? How would cleaving off the base change the resulting GOP and Democrats?
It's an interesting topic for mulling over, but I don't see Rudy winning the GOP nomination.
Agreed.
And this guy is not voting for any gun grabber, abortion supporting liberal.
A Giuliani victory will drive Christians out of the GOP
A Romney victory will cause Christians to stay home.
A McCain victory will drive the sane from the GOP.
Fred better pull our bacon out of the fire.
I don't agree with this statement, but the others I will agre with 100%.
...and I am REALLY hoping Fred will jump in soon.
There are especially two candidates who are so far off the
Republican map they could never get nominated let alone elected.
Rudy, with his extreme liberal social views
Ron Paul with his far left anti war and Michale Moore comments.
Man, you were way ahead of your time. I clearly remember you making an almost similar statement on another thread to Cincinatus' Wife about a month ago.
I will NEVER vote Romney or Guiliani.
We are readly marching (stupidly Republicans) into oblivion such as Canada’s (right-wing Torries) in the 90’s. Split the Reagan coalition (with liberal pandering), and you send Republicans into permanent minority status!! I will not be controlled by the Rockefellers as WELL!@
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